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First page I ever created. Let me know how I did and, yes, I will get around to properly IDing the weapons.--SeanWolf (talk) 20:10, 25 February 2016 (EST)

Didn't expect to see this, isn't this game kinda crap?--AnActualAK47 (talk) 05:37, 26 February 2016 (EST)

Eh, kinda.--SeanWolf (talk) 10:53, 26 February 2016 (EST)

:/--AnActualAK47 (talk) 12:11, 26 February 2016 (EST)

Actually, maybe you can help. You have any idea what the Hunting Rifle is based on? I guessed it was based on the Karabiner 98k.--SeanWolf (talk) 15:12, 26 February 2016 (EST)

Coming along alright to me - Make the IDs and put some weapon thumbnails and I think that'll be most of it right there. That said the rifle does appear to be a Kar98k - The art/model of it looks rather similar to those of K98k's I've seen in other games. StanTheMan (talk) 15:21, 26 February 2016 (EST)

That's what I'm thinking too. Kinda wonder why it's one shot only though. It's actually a bit weaker then the Sniper Rifle.--SeanWolf (talk) 16:39, 26 February 2016 (EST)

To me it looks more like a Remington 700 rather than a Mauser action. It doesn't have the Mauser style safety catch on the rear of the bolt, there is no clip guide, the ejection port is the wrong shape, and the bolt handle looks like the stock Rem 700 one. Comparing the top view to this schematic of a Remington 700 action you can see that it appears to be a match. --commando552 (talk) 17:07, 26 February 2016 (EST)

I do see the similarities. I'll see if I can get a better shot of the gun tonight.--SeanWolf (talk) 17:19, 26 February 2016 (EST)

For reference, this is what the top of the action would look like if it was based on a Mauser 98. --commando552 (talk) 17:24, 26 February 2016 (EST)

Well, here's the rifle in question. It's starting to look more like a frankengun.--SeanWolf (talk) 17:27, 26 February 2016 (EST)

Looking at the pics of the game weapon again I concur it looks like a Remington bolt and action on the Hunting Rifle. I do think a 700 is the best ID that can be made on that one as it stands. The icon doesn't show much and more importantly means little if anything in regards to IDing the actual weapon. That being said the AK is definitely NOT an AKMSU whatever the icon shows, as the game weapon clearly has a full-length barrel. I'd actually go with listing it as an actual AK-47 as opposed to an AKM since it seems to lack the AKM-style slanted compensator. StanTheMan (talk) 01:25, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

I've changed the AK ID to an AKMS, as it has a stamped receiver, which you can tell by the magazine well dimples, rivets and ribbed top cover. I'm going for the folding S variant due to the icon, which doesn't show an AKMSU at all as it also has a standard length barrel. As for the compensator, this is a removable part so isn't a reliable form of ID. --commando552 (talk)

Fair points, I forgot about the ribbing being on stamped receivers. The icon looked to be a short-barrel gun, but I didn't look at it all that close TBH - Icons aren't necessarily good indicators to go on for the actual IDs most times I feel. StanTheMan (talk) 14:32, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

The Ribbing on the top cover of an AK is not necessarily indicative of the receiver type but it is an indicator. Depending on the specific gun you can put a ribbed stamped style top cover on a milled receiver, and there are some stamped guns (most notably the Norincos) which are stamped but with a smooth top cover. --commando552 (talk) 19:14, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

Ah, wasn't aware you could mix and match with the milled guns. To be fair though, I don't think that's something that's seen very much. Still good to know though. StanTheMan (talk) 02:46, 7 April 2016 (EDT)

Here's the best shot I could do of the AK in question (It's near impossible to drop the guns without them sticking out of the ground)--SeanWolf (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

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Hmm, unfortunately that complicates it more. It definitely shows it as having a stamped receiver, however in this shot you can see that it has the original AK-47 type front sight and gas block, and alas I can't think of a real variant that actually uses this arrangement of parts. --commando552 (talk) 19:14, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

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OK, so here's the best shot I can get of the receiver of the rifle. Unfortuntaly, it is near impossible to drop guns in a way so one can look at them properly, due to them sticking straight up from the ground when dropped

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The receiver of the rifle. It does look like the one seen on a Mauser.

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 :: Fair points, I forgot about the ribbing being on stamped receivers. The icon looked to be a short-barrel gun, but I didn't look at it all that close TBH - Icons aren't necessarily good indicators to go on for the actual IDs most times I feel. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:32, 6 April 2016 (EDT)
 ::::The Ribbing on the top cover of an AK is not necessarily indicative of the receiver type but it is an indicator. Depending on the specific gun you can put a ribbed stamped style top cover on a milled receiver, and there are some stamped guns (most notably the Norincos) which are stamped but with a smooth top cover.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:14, 6 April 2016 (EDT)
+::::: Ah, wasn't aware you could mix and match with the milled guns. To be fair though, I don't think that's something that's seen very much. Still good to know though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 02:46, 7 April 2016 (EDT)
 ::: Here's the best shot I could do of the AK in question (It's near impossible to drop the guns without them sticking out of the ground)--[[User:SeanWolf|SeanWolf]] ([[User talk:SeanWolf|talk]]) 16:41, 6 April 2016 (EDT)
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