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[[Image:Untouch-cds2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness aims the snubnose at one of Capone's gangsters.]]
[[Image:Untouch-cds2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness aims the snubnose at one of Capone's gangsters.]]


== Colt Official Police==
==Colt Official Police==
'''The revolver used in each of these scenes is not a D frame Colt Police Positive but in fact the larger I/E frame Colt Official Police.  The size of the gun in Ness (Costner) and Stone's (Garcia) hand is too large for the smaller D frame Police Positive '''
Officer Stone ([[Andy Garcia]]) uses a [[Colt Official Police]] while on the police academy firing range. The court officer is later seen with one that he lends to Ness for him to chase Nitti down. What is interesting about Ness's gun is that this particular version of the Official Police is actually a Post-War gun (meaning it wasn't made until after 1950) whereas this movie takes place in the 1930s.  The ramped front sight, flat hammer and longer ejection rod cap are changes that were made after 1950.  Pre-War guns would have a halfmoon front sight and shorter ejector rod cap.
 
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Official Police - .38spl.]]
Officer Stone ([[Andy Garcia]]) uses a [[Colt Police Positive]] while on the police academy firing range. The court officer is later seen with one that he lends to Ness for him to chase Nitti down.
[[Image:Untouch-sw10a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stone on the firing range with his Colt Official Police.]]
[[Image:PolicePositive.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Police Positive - .38spl.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stone on the firing range with his Police Positive.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10g.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness takes the court officer's revolver to chase Nitti.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10g.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness takes the court officer's revolver to chase Nitti.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10h.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness holds his revolver while looking for Nitti.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10h.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness holds his revolver while looking for Nitti.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10i.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness is about to pull the trigger on Nitti when he has second thoughts.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10i.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness is about to pull the trigger on Nitti when he has second thoughts.]]
'''More evidence that this is a Colt Official Police in this scene that shows Ness holding the gun from a side view. If the image had been taken a moment later, the viewer would have a chance to see that the hammer matches an Official Police hammer and is different from the Police Positive hammer seen in the image at the top.   What is even more interesting about this gun is that this particular version of the Official Police is actually a Post-War gun (wasn't made until after 1950) whereas this movie takes place in the 1930s. The ramped front sight, flat hammer and longer ejection rod cap are changes that were made after 1950. Pre-War guns would have a halfmoon front sight and shorter ejector rod cap, '''
[[Image:UntouchablesColtOfficialPolice-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness uncocks the hammer.]]
 
==M1911A1==
Treasury agent Elliot Ness ([[Kevin Costner]]) uses an [[M1911A1]] throughout the film in scenes in which he is not firing his weapon. Treasury accountant Oscar Wallace ([[Charles Martin Smith]]) keeps one in a shoulder holster. Several of Capone's ([[Robert De Niro]]) mobsters carry them.


==M1911==
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Colt M1911A1 pistol - .45 ACP.]]
Treasury agent Elliot Ness ([[Kevin Costner]]) uses a [[M1911]] throughout the film. Treasury accountant Oscar Wallace ([[Charles Martin Smith]]) keeps one in a shoulder holster. Frank Nitti ([[Billy Drago]]) carries a nickel-plated [[Star Model B]] in court, which Ness uses as an excuse to kick him out. Several other of Capone's ([[Robert De Niro]]) mobsters carry them.
[[Image:Untouch-1911a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness comforts his daughter, M1911A1 in hand.]]
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Colt M1911 pistol - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An Italian-speaking mobster in Canada is cornered by Ness with his own pearl-gripped M1911A1.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness comforts his daughter, 1911 in hand.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911c.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Capone's gangsters pull their M1911A1s on Ness and Malone.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An Italian-speaking mobster in Canada is cornered by Ness with his own pearl-gripped 1911.]]
 
[[Image:Untouch-1911c.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Capone's gangsters pull their 1911s on Ness and Malone.]]
==Star Model B==
[[Image:Untouch-1911d.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness fires his 1911 during the train station shootout.]]
Treasury Agent Elliot Ness ([[Kevin Costner]]) carries a [[Star Model B]] as his sidearm in the film, standing in for the [[M1911A1]] in scenes in which he fires it. A gangster who holds the bookkeeper ([[Jack Kehoe]]) from Ness and Stone in the train station holds a [[Star Model B]] to the bookkeeper's head. Frank Nitti ([[Billy Drago]]) carries a nickel-plated [[Star Model B]] in court, which Ness uses as an excuse to kick him out.  
[[Image:Untouch-1911e.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness's 1911 runs out of ammunition and locks back.]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Blued Star Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''.  This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ]]
[[Image:UntouchablesStarB-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness creeps outside the Capone warehouse before his botched bust.]]
[[Image:UntouchablesStarB-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness holds his Star Model B on a nosy reporter outside the warehouse.]]
[[Image:Untouch-starb1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A gangster fires his Star Model B during the final shootout.]]
[[Image:Untouch-starb2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The gangster holds the bookkeeper hostage.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911d.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness fires his Star Model B during the train station shootout.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911e.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness's Star Model B runs out of ammunition and locks back.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911f.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness and a court officer take Nitti's nickel Star Model B.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911f.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ness and a court officer take Nitti's nickel Star Model B.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911g.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Frank Nitti checks his nickel Star Model B's chamber.]]
[[Image:UntouchablesStarB-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nitti holds his nickel Star Model B on the court officer.]]
[[Image:UntouchablesStarB-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nitti waits for Ness to walk out of the roof entrance so he can shoot him.]]
[[Image:Untouch-1911g.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nitti reloads his nickel Star Model B's.]]


==Smith & Wesson Model 10==
==Smith & Wesson Model 10==
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[[Image:Untouch-sw10e.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stone prepares to kill the gangster.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10e.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stone prepares to kill the gangster.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10f.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stone holds his Model 10 after shooting the gangster in the mouth.]]
[[Image:Untouch-sw10f.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Stone holds his Model 10 after shooting the gangster in the mouth.]]
==Star Model B==
A gangster who holds the bookkeeper ([[Jack Kehoe]]) from Ness and Stone in the train station holds a [[Star Model B]] to the bookkeeper's head.
:Ness (Costner) also used one himself in some of the firing scenes. LMO has a picture of the Star Model B used by Kevin Costner in some scenes of the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''.  This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ]]
[[Image:Untouch-starb1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A gangster fires his Star Model B during the final shootout.]]
[[Image:Untouch-starb2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The gangster holds the bookkeeper hostage.]]


==Thompson M1928==
==Thompson M1928==

Revision as of 07:23, 5 April 2009

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The Untouchables (1987).

The following firearms can be seen in the film The Untouchables:


Colt Detective Special

A nickel plated Colt Detective Special is carried by Chicago patrolman George Stone (Andy Garcia) as his backup gun, which he tosses to Ness during the train station shootout.

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Colt Detective Special - .38 Special
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Stone threatens Malone with his Colt DS when they meet.
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Stone runs through the train station with his Model 10 and Detective Special.
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Ness aims the snubnose at one of Capone's gangsters.

Colt Official Police

Officer Stone (Andy Garcia) uses a Colt Official Police while on the police academy firing range. The court officer is later seen with one that he lends to Ness for him to chase Nitti down. What is interesting about Ness's gun is that this particular version of the Official Police is actually a Post-War gun (meaning it wasn't made until after 1950) whereas this movie takes place in the 1930s. The ramped front sight, flat hammer and longer ejection rod cap are changes that were made after 1950. Pre-War guns would have a halfmoon front sight and shorter ejector rod cap.

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Colt Official Police - .38spl.
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Stone on the firing range with his Colt Official Police.
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Ness takes the court officer's revolver to chase Nitti.
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Ness holds his revolver while looking for Nitti.
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Ness is about to pull the trigger on Nitti when he has second thoughts.
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Ness uncocks the hammer.

M1911A1

Treasury agent Elliot Ness (Kevin Costner) uses an M1911A1 throughout the film in scenes in which he is not firing his weapon. Treasury accountant Oscar Wallace (Charles Martin Smith) keeps one in a shoulder holster. Several of Capone's (Robert De Niro) mobsters carry them.

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Colt M1911A1 pistol - .45 ACP.
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Ness comforts his daughter, M1911A1 in hand.
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An Italian-speaking mobster in Canada is cornered by Ness with his own pearl-gripped M1911A1.
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Capone's gangsters pull their M1911A1s on Ness and Malone.

Star Model B

Treasury Agent Elliot Ness (Kevin Costner) carries a Star Model B as his sidearm in the film, standing in for the M1911A1 in scenes in which he fires it. A gangster who holds the bookkeeper (Jack Kehoe) from Ness and Stone in the train station holds a Star Model B to the bookkeeper's head. Frank Nitti (Billy Drago) carries a nickel-plated Star Model B in court, which Ness uses as an excuse to kick him out.

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Blued Star Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie The Untouchables (1987). This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen.
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Ness creeps outside the Capone warehouse before his botched bust.
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Ness holds his Star Model B on a nosy reporter outside the warehouse.
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A gangster fires his Star Model B during the final shootout.
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The gangster holds the bookkeeper hostage.
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Ness fires his Star Model B during the train station shootout.
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Ness's Star Model B runs out of ammunition and locks back.
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Ness and a court officer take Nitti's nickel Star Model B.
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Nitti holds his nickel Star Model B on the court officer.
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Nitti waits for Ness to walk out of the roof entrance so he can shoot him.
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Nitti reloads his nickel Star Model B's.

Smith & Wesson Model 10

A Smith & Wesson Model 10 is carried by Stone (Andy Garcia). He uses it to kill the gangster who is holding the bookeeper hostage at the end of the shootout in the train depot. Malone (Sean Connery) also carries one, which he infamously uses to shoot an already dead gangster. Many other Chicago policemen carry Model 10s.

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Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver - .38 Special
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Malone and Stone pulls out their Model 10s when the reporter intrerrupts their meal.
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Malone shoots a dead mobster in the throat.
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Stone runs through the train station with his Model 10 and Detective Special.
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Stone aims at the gangster with his Model 10.
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Stone prepares to kill the gangster.
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Stone holds his Model 10 after shooting the gangster in the mouth.

Thompson M1928

Many gangsters and policemen use the Thompson M1928 during the film. Stone and Malone use them to great effect during the Canadian shootout. Frank Nitti notably uses one to fatally wound Malone outside his apartment.

According to the Ellis Props & Graphics NFA weapons list available on Long Mountain Outfitters' web site, there was a mix of M1921s and M1928 Thompsons used in the film. -MT2008
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M1928 Thompson "Tommy Gun" .45 ACP
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Stone holds a Thompson as Malone explains their plan to Ness.
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Stone on horseback with a Thompson.
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Malone lays near a shot-up gangster car with his Thompson.
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Nitti aims his Thompson at Malone.
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A Thompson-wielding gangster takes a shot in the throat from Stone.

Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk III* rifle

The Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III* is seen used by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

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Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the First World War, introduced in 1907 it has seen action throughout the 20th century.

Pattern 1914 Enfield rifle

A Pattern 1914 Enfield rifle is used by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

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M1917 Enfield .30-06. The Pattern 1914 was chambered originally in a high velocity .276 caliber and then changed to .303 British when the experimental caliber proved to be troublesome. Remington manufactured the rifle for the British in WW1. After the U.S. joined the Allies it was easy to convert the rifle to 30-06. Which was important since the Federal Springfield Armory could not produce enough of the 1903 Springfield rifle to meet war demands.United States troops carried both the 1917 Enfield and the 1903 Springfield in World War I.

Springfield M1903 rifle

The Chicago Police Department uses Springfield M1903 rifles.

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Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06

Winchester Model 1894 rifle

The Chicago Police Department uses Winchester Model 1894 rifles. A number of Winchester '94s can be seen in a gun rack at a police station.

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Winchester Model 1894
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Behind Ness is a rack full of Winchester '94s.

Winchester Model 1897

The Untouchables use Winchester Model 1897 shotguns on several occasions, such as the post office raid.

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Winchester Model 1897 12 gauge riot gun
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The Untouchables arm themselves with Winchester '97s for the post office alcohol raid.
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The Untouchables prepare to raid the alcohol center inside the post office.

Winchester Model 1912

A Winchester Model 1912 is used by Elliot Ness (Kevin Costner) during the shootout in the train station. These are also used during the shootout on the Canadian/U.S. border.

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Winchester Model 1912 Riot Gun - 12 gauge
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Ness riding a horse with his Winchester shotgun.
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Wallace takes out a gangster with his Winchester shotgun just before he runs out of shells.
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Ness reloads his Winchester as a gangster hides inside their house.
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Ness pulls his shotgun from under his jacket and shoots a gangster one-handedly.
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Ness fires his shotgun during the train station shootout.

Rossi Overland sawed-off shotgun

An 12 Gauge Rossi Overland sawed-off shotgun is kept by Malone (Sean Connery) in his apartment as a "home defense" weapon. The Rossi Overland sawed-off shotgun was built by the late gunsmith Branko Wohlfahrt for Ellis Mercantile.

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The Rossi Overland sawed-off shotgun used in the film, supplied by Ellis Mercantile.
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Malone answers the door, 12 Gauge Rossi Overland sawed-off shotgun in hand.
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Malone berates a Capone mobster for "bringing a knife to a gunfight".

Mk 2 hand grenade

Ness launches a Mk 2 hand grenade over their Canadian cabin to force a Capone gangster to run inside.

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Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade
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The grenade lands next to the porch.