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=Additional Images=
==Flintlock Pistol==
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev pistol 1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Angie ([[Aleksey Chadov]]) in ambush with his pistol.]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev pistol 4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Good view of the lock.]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev pistol 6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Grigory Voronov puts his pistol on the table.]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev pistol 7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Grigory Voronov fires the pistol during the bravle in the Inn.]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev pistol 8.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Grigory Voronov fires the pistol.]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev pistol 13.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Angie ([[Aleksey Chadov]]) draws his pistol...]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev pistol 14.jpg|thumb|none|601px|...and fires at the tent.]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev pistol 20.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Anka raises her pistol at the final scene.]]
==Brown Bess Flintlock Musket==
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev Musket 2 12.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Swedish soldiers with the muskets.]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev Musket 2 3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Swedish soldiers raies their muskets.]]
==Flintlock Fowler==
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev Musket 1 7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Swedish soldiers aims...]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev Musket 1 8.jpg|thumb|none|601px|...and fires.]]
[[Image:Sluga Gosudarev Musket 1 16.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Russian soldiers discharges their guns at the Swedish soldiers.]]
=Discussion=
According to [http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/85/240819-97.html guns.ru] most muskets in the movie are percussion while only 10 flintlock muskets were used for close-ups. [http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/003914/3914997.jpg See here], for example. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:27, 1 December 2015 (EST)
According to [http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/85/240819-97.html guns.ru] most muskets in the movie are percussion while only 10 flintlock muskets were used for close-ups. [http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/003914/3914997.jpg See here], for example. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:27, 1 December 2015 (EST)
:Yes, it's percussian, and it's Lorenz rifle. Thank you verry much! [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 15:41, 1 December 2015 (EST)
:Yes, it's percussian, and it's Lorenz rifle. Thank you verry much! [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 15:41, 1 December 2015 (EST)
::I'm not so sure about Lorenz. While the percussion locks can be replaced with flintlocks with ease, hardly the moviemakers would replace the muzzle rings, and these details of screen long guns look quite different from Lorenz. I have no other guess for now but I think that we need to look for some other musket. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:58, 1 December 2015 (EST)
:::I'm sorry, but it's the only moment, when this muskets were clearly seen. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 16:04, 1 December 2015 (EST)
::::I see. I have some versions but they need more research. Maybe there would be a result, maybe not. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:08, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Latest revision as of 23:32, 28 July 2023

Additional Images

Flintlock Pistol

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Angie (Aleksey Chadov) in ambush with his pistol.
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Good view of the lock.
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Grigory Voronov puts his pistol on the table.
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Grigory Voronov fires the pistol during the bravle in the Inn.
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Grigory Voronov fires the pistol.
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Angie (Aleksey Chadov) draws his pistol...
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...and fires at the tent.
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Anka raises her pistol at the final scene.

Brown Bess Flintlock Musket

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Swedish soldiers with the muskets.
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Swedish soldiers raies their muskets.

Flintlock Fowler

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Swedish soldiers aims...
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...and fires.
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Russian soldiers discharges their guns at the Swedish soldiers.

Discussion

According to guns.ru most muskets in the movie are percussion while only 10 flintlock muskets were used for close-ups. See here, for example. Greg-Z (talk) 02:27, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Yes, it's percussian, and it's Lorenz rifle. Thank you verry much! Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:41, 1 December 2015 (EST)
I'm not so sure about Lorenz. While the percussion locks can be replaced with flintlocks with ease, hardly the moviemakers would replace the muzzle rings, and these details of screen long guns look quite different from Lorenz. I have no other guess for now but I think that we need to look for some other musket. Greg-Z (talk) 15:58, 1 December 2015 (EST)
I'm sorry, but it's the only moment, when this muskets were clearly seen. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:04, 1 December 2015 (EST)
I see. I have some versions but they need more research. Maybe there would be a result, maybe not. Greg-Z (talk) 16:08, 1 December 2015 (EST)