Talk:House of the Dead, The: Difference between revisions
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Talk:House of the Dead, The: Difference between revisions
::::::If it's a fake handgun and it's the only weapon in the game, the page doesn't qualify. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:04, 6 November 2015 (EST)
::::::If it's a fake handgun and it's the only weapon in the game, the page doesn't qualify. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:04, 6 November 2015 (EST)
:::::::"the page doesn't qualify" hmm... so, if this page are deleted, HOD1 information are will be include to HOD2 article? --[[User:Seganamcofan|Seganamcofan]] ([[User talk:Seganamcofan|talk]]) 12:24, 6 November 2015 (EST)
:::::::"the page doesn't qualify" hmm... so, if this page are deleted, HOD1 information are will be include to HOD2 article? --[[User:Seganamcofan|Seganamcofan]] ([[User talk:Seganamcofan|talk]]) 12:24, 6 November 2015 (EST)
::::::::The same gun appears to be in HOD2, so it looks like it's already included. But if you can't finish HOD2, that will be gone as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:59, 6 November 2015 (EST)
:::::::::Hmm. Can't we stick the four main games onto a single page like what was with Devil May Cry?--[[User:Gunmaster2011|Gunmaster2011]] ([[User talk:Gunmaster2011|talk]]) 13:05, 8 November 2015 (EST)
=Page=
{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name=The House of the Dead
|picture=hod_arcadeflyer.jpg
|caption=''The House of the Dead (1996)''
|series=The House of the Dead
|date=4 March 1997<br>(Arcade International Release)<br> 31 March 1998 (Sega Saturn)<br> 1998 (PC)
|developer=SEGA AM R&D DEPT#1<br>(Currently known as SEGA Interactive R&D#1)
|platforms=Arcade<br>Sega Saturn<br>PC
|publisher=SEGA
|genre=Light gun shooter
}}
{{VG Title|The House Of The Dead}}
[[Image:hod_saturnboxart.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The House of the Dead (1998)'']]
__TOC__<br clear="all">
=Pistols=
==Fictional Handgun==
AMS agents Thomas Rogan and "G" uses fictional handgun called "AMS EATER Custom" (In the Sega Saturn Magazine, It was incorrectly called "BDR Custom .45 Auto").<br>
According from "The House of the Dead Official Guide", It's heavily modified unknown handgun which was adopted by AMS. with modified to striker fired, change caliber 9×19mm to 50.AE rounds. It's also equipped with enlarged ambidextrous safety lever, magazine release and single-column 6 rounds magazine.<br>
"EATER" is also planned to appear as game's gun controller, which have air compression recoil system and It's actually uses in Location Test of 1996,<br>
But plan is later cancelled. because these recoil are possibly damage to player's hands and production cost is much higher then Virtua Cop's gun controller.<br>
Although final version's gun controller are each have specially made sticker. It written as "EATER 1 ANNEX ARMS JPN "ZMB" special package type -Thomas- model" for 1 player's gun (It written for 2 player's gun as "EATER 2 type -G- model").
[[Image:hod_eater.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Official render and Official illust of "AMS EATER Custom" (Taken from USA Sega Saturn Magazine). Note This article is mentioned above.]]
[[Image:hod_Rogan.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AMS agent Thomas Rogan posing with his "AMS EATER Custom 1" in attract demo.]]
[[Image:hod_G.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AMS agent "G" aiming with his "AMS EATER Custom 2" in attract demo.]]
[[Image:hod_eaterfiring.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Thomas firing his "AMS EATER Custom 1" to locked door in first stage. Note slide is actually moved and discharged cartridge.]]
[[Image:hod_eaterreload.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"G" reloading his "AMS EATER Custom 2" in second stage. Note bullet in the magazines are actually modeled and textured.]]
==Official drawing of the AMS EATER==
I was looking through old articles of SEGA light guns just to kill time, and I found one explaining how the original mechanics of House of The Dead were going to work (originally it was gonna have two screens, one behind the player at all times, proved too costly and bulky to work), and I found a sketch that, according to the article at least, is meant to be a modeller's reference for the pistols.
[[File:Who_the_hell_approved_the_only_jpeg_rules.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here it is.]]
What I find most interesting is that the porting in the slide goes all the way forward, the USP style rail, and that it was not only going to be 9mm, but also called the BDR Custom instead. --[[User:Yocapo32|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32|talk]]) 11:00, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
* I can't get the image to work, here's an Imgur link https://i.imgur.com/EMoA1R8.png --[[User:Yocapo32|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32|talk]]) 11:04, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
::Rather oddly, it says "9mm x 8" (which presumably means that it has a single-stack 8-round magazine), but also says "BDR CUSTOM 45AUTO". So, I'm really not sure if they knew what they were doing. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 11:35, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
:::Probably an early design before the specs were finalized, I'm guessing. --[[User:Yocapo32|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32|talk]]) 13:47, 14 June 2020 (EDT)
Latest revision as of 17:47, 14 June 2020
If this is the only gun in the game, and it doesn't look like ANY real gun, much less a BHP, then I'm not sure this title qualifies. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:59, 5 November 2015 (EST)
I know about this problem. but in the "The House of the Dead Official Guide" page 12, it written as "modified Special Ops Browning Hi-Power". So I wrote independent HOD1 article than integration to HOD2 article. --Seganamcofan (talk) 04:15, 6 November 2015 (EST)
A third party article doesn't override the visual evidence. --Funkychinaman (talk) 08:17, 6 November 2015 (EST)
Take your cellphone out back and shoot it. :P Evil Tim (talk) 08:23, 6 November 2015 (EST)
I take a picture of these evidence. It's written as Japanese, though.Error creating thumbnail: File missing主人公ローガンの所持する「AMS EATER 改」は、所属のAMSで使用されている銃のフレームを基にカスタマイズされた代物。9mmパラベラムから50AEの大口径にする事で、凄まじいまでの破壊力を実現させた。その代償として、巨大な弾丸を収納するスペースを捻出できず、装弾数はダブルカラムの15発から、わずかシングルカラム6発になっている。セイフティレバーやマガジンキャッチは左右対称のまま使いやすく大型化、ワンオフのカスタムグリップ、内蔵型のハンマーによるストライカーシステムを採用するなど、多岐に渡ってカスタマイズされている。Error creating thumbnail: File missing一説にはブローニングハイパワーの某特殊部隊仕様を製作したガンスミスの手でチューンアップされたといわれ、命中精度、耐久性、操作性全ての面で優れている。使用する弾丸も通常は「フルメタルジャケット｣と呼ばれる、銅でコーティングした先の尖った物がほとんどだが、対ゾンビ系の生物兵器用として「シルバーチップ」という弾頭自体がひしゃげて破壊力が増すタイプを使用している。Error creating thumbnail: File missingError creating thumbnail: File missingActual arcade version's "EATER" sticker. --Seganamcofan (talk) 10:26, 6 November 2015 (EST)
I read carefully this article, It look like My identification was WRONG. EATER is actually a heavily modified unknown handgun which was adopted by AMS.Its tuned up by some gunsmith who made Spec ops Browning Hi-Power. I'm so sorry about this. I'll change the main page description. --Seganamcofan (talk) 11:37, 6 November 2015 (EST)
If it's a fake handgun and it's the only weapon in the game, the page doesn't qualify. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:04, 6 November 2015 (EST)
"the page doesn't qualify" hmm... so, if this page are deleted, HOD1 information are will be include to HOD2 article? --Seganamcofan (talk) 12:24, 6 November 2015 (EST)
The same gun appears to be in HOD2, so it looks like it's already included. But if you can't finish HOD2, that will be gone as well. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:59, 6 November 2015 (EST)
Hmm. Can't we stick the four main games onto a single page like what was with Devil May Cry?--Gunmaster2011 (talk) 13:05, 8 November 2015 (EST)
AMS agents Thomas Rogan and "G" uses fictional handgun called "AMS EATER Custom" (In the Sega Saturn Magazine, It was incorrectly called "BDR Custom .45 Auto").
According from "The House of the Dead Official Guide", It's heavily modified unknown handgun which was adopted by AMS. with modified to striker fired, change caliber 9×19mm to 50.AE rounds. It's also equipped with enlarged ambidextrous safety lever, magazine release and single-column 6 rounds magazine.
"EATER" is also planned to appear as game's gun controller, which have air compression recoil system and It's actually uses in Location Test of 1996,
But plan is later cancelled. because these recoil are possibly damage to player's hands and production cost is much higher then Virtua Cop's gun controller.
Although final version's gun controller are each have specially made sticker. It written as "EATER 1 ANNEX ARMS JPN "ZMB" special package type -Thomas- model" for 1 player's gun (It written for 2 player's gun as "EATER 2 type -G- model").
I was looking through old articles of SEGA light guns just to kill time, and I found one explaining how the original mechanics of House of The Dead were going to work (originally it was gonna have two screens, one behind the player at all times, proved too costly and bulky to work), and I found a sketch that, according to the article at least, is meant to be a modeller's reference for the pistols.
Here it is.
What I find most interesting is that the porting in the slide goes all the way forward, the USP style rail, and that it was not only going to be 9mm, but also called the BDR Custom instead. --yocapo32 (talk) 11:00, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
Rather oddly, it says "9mm x 8" (which presumably means that it has a single-stack 8-round magazine), but also says "BDR CUSTOM 45AUTO". So, I'm really not sure if they knew what they were doing. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 11:35, 3 June 2020 (EDT)
Probably an early design before the specs were finalized, I'm guessing. --yocapo32 (talk) 13:47, 14 June 2020 (EDT)
