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::Uncle Misha's pistol seems to be too large for PM. Maybe an [[Stechkin APS]]? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:29, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
::Uncle Misha's pistol seems to be too large for PM. Maybe an [[Stechkin APS]]? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:29, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
:::It seems, Stechkin APB --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 12:31, 29 September 2015 (UTC+2)
:::It seems, Stechkin APB --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 12:31, 29 September 2015 (UTC+2)
::::Hardly a real APB, more likely an APS with a fake suppressor. At least [http://popgun.ru/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=247054&sid=38631268ca24cb335d0b2849b92248b7 here] this pistol is identified as APS. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:16, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
== Revolvers ==
Are there any thoughts about the revolvers? The first revolver is unclear; and the second apparently not Nagant, a some other model.  --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]), 20:46, 01 October 2015
Is the [[File:Risk_without_contract_1992.jpg|500px|thumbs|none|]] revolver on the bottom present in the movie? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 14:56, 1 October 2015 (EDT)
:I doubt. Most likely, it's just a advertising poster.  --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]), 21:04, 01 October 2015 (UTC+2)
::I think that it can be a gas firing revolver. Such cheap guns (like [[Reck Agent]], for example) are often seen in Russian movies of 1990s. Too little details are seen for a reliable identification. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:07, 1 October 2015 (EDT)
::: The second revolver may be (it's only a guess!) a Khaidurov TOZ-36, a target revolver based on Nagant. It is seen, for example, [[The_Bay_of_Death_(Bukhta_smerti)#Khaidurov_TOZ-36|here]]. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:17, 1 October 2015 (EDT)
[[Image:TOZ36.jpg|thumb|300px|none|TOZ-36 - 7.62x38 Nagant]]
[[Image:Rwc rv 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Other view to revolver]]
::::In fact, in the movie used the everywhere same revolvers. And it's not TOZ-36. Maybe "Kobalt" with wooden handle? Or some S&W variant? --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 16:24, 14 December 2015 (EST)
:::::Production of "Kobalt" started [http://gunrf.ru/rg_revolver_ots-01_ru.html only in 1993] (link in Russian), so I strongly doubt it could appear in 1992 movie. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:40, 15 December 2015 (EST)
::::::Maybe this is some European-made revolver? --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 17:22, 19 December 2015 (EST)
:::::::Possibly. But we hardly can make an absolutely certain identification while basing on available materials. So I think that we'll better keep it as "unidentified revolver". [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 03:49, 20 December 2015 (EST)

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AKMSU

The "AKMSU" is a AKS-74U, note the 5.45-mm magazine. 7.62-mm short AKs never appeared in Soviet/Russian movies as they didn't exist in USSR/Russia, at least not as a service weapon. Greg-Z (talk) 16:32, 28 September 2015 (EDT)

The grenade seems to be a training version of RGD-5. Greg-Z (talk) 17:15, 28 September 2015 (EDT)
Uncle Misha's pistol seems to be too large for PM. Maybe an Stechkin APS? Greg-Z (talk) 01:29, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
It seems, Stechkin APB --Slon95 (talk) 12:31, 29 September 2015 (UTC+2)
Hardly a real APB, more likely an APS with a fake suppressor. At least here this pistol is identified as APS. Greg-Z (talk) 07:16, 29 September 2015 (EDT)

Revolvers

Are there any thoughts about the revolvers? The first revolver is unclear; and the second apparently not Nagant, a some other model. --Slon95 (talk), 20:46, 01 October 2015

Is the

revolver on the bottom present in the movie? Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:56, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

I doubt. Most likely, it's just a advertising poster. --Slon95 (talk), 21:04, 01 October 2015 (UTC+2)
I think that it can be a gas firing revolver. Such cheap guns (like Reck Agent, for example) are often seen in Russian movies of 1990s. Too little details are seen for a reliable identification. Greg-Z (talk) 15:07, 1 October 2015 (EDT)
The second revolver may be (it's only a guess!) a Khaidurov TOZ-36, a target revolver based on Nagant. It is seen, for example, here. Greg-Z (talk) 15:17, 1 October 2015 (EDT)
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TOZ-36 - 7.62x38 Nagant
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Other view to revolver
In fact, in the movie used the everywhere same revolvers. And it's not TOZ-36. Maybe "Kobalt" with wooden handle? Or some S&W variant? --Slon95 (talk) 16:24, 14 December 2015 (EST)
Production of "Kobalt" started only in 1993 (link in Russian), so I strongly doubt it could appear in 1992 movie. Greg-Z (talk) 02:40, 15 December 2015 (EST)
Maybe this is some European-made revolver? --Slon95 (talk) 17:22, 19 December 2015 (EST)
Possibly. But we hardly can make an absolutely certain identification while basing on available materials. So I think that we'll better keep it as "unidentified revolver". Greg-Z (talk) 03:49, 20 December 2015 (EST)