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= Discussion =
== Kelly McCord's pistol ==
== Kelly McCord's pistol ==


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:I think it's just more likely be a 4506. The bore also looks closer to a. 45. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:23, 13 September 2015 (EDT)
:I think it's just more likely be a 4506. The bore also looks closer to a. 45. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:23, 13 September 2015 (EDT)
::Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:24, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
::: I concur, and will add that is most likely a newer (probably brand-new at that time) S&W 4506-1 given the blued trigger and hammer - The 1006 was never made long enough to feature blued components like the 4506. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:31, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
==Some IDs==
The Ithaca "Stakeout" is just a normal riot-length Ithaca with nickel finish (not parkerized) and pistol grip - Stakeouts are all short-barreled shotguns AFAIK. Also, the M16A2s are likely all M16A1 mockups, they appear to have the thinner barrels and the A1 upper is quite visible in the one closeup shot showing the receiver. Also, the MP5A3s have Surefire light forends, not the slimline ones - That said, I think they are HK94A3s, the couple of close shots, though blurry, show what look to be metal lower receivers without the paddle mag release and non-lugged barrels. Also, the suppressed SIG seems a bit short - It might be a P228 rather than a P226, not certain on that one though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:25, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
:Thanks, I'll make corrections. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:57, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
== that not pump-action shotgun !! ==
‎This will not be able to pump action. - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:25, 16 September 2015 (JST)
:Agreed, nice catch. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:33, 16 September 2015 (EDT)
[[Image:RemingtonMod.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 with a heatshield, Surefire light - 12 gauge]]
‎[[Image:Remington1100.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington Model 1100 with pistol grip stock - 12 gauge]]
‎[[Image:BenelliM1Super90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Benelli M1 Super 90 in synthetic straight stock configuration, ghost ring sights - 12 gauge]]
‎[[Image:HKM1Super90Entry002-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Super 90 model with Surefire dedicated weaponlight - 12 gauge]]
[[File:The Rage-Shotgun-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two deputies fire semi-auto shotguns.]]
:OK, I'll make several additional screenshots of this scene so we can see more action of these shotguns. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 09:33, 16 September 2015 (EDT)
::Sorry, I was wrong. They are really firing semi auto. Thanks. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 11:54, 16 September 2015 (EDT)
:: Seems the Surefire foregrip doesn't cover the whole length of the rear part of the mag tube making it look like a pump-action at first glance. That last gun image of the M1 Super 90 shows this pretty clearly. I also agree, that's a good catch there. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:33, 16 September 2015 (EDT)

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Non-Firearms

Harpoon Gun

In the final scene Nick Travis (Lorenzo Lamas) uses a pneumatic harpoon pistol to make a hole in the tank with gasoline.

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Travis shoots a dart.
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Travis holds a discharged harpoon gun.

Discussion

Kelly McCord's pistol

I identified Kelly McCord's pistol as Smith & Wesson 1006 but Smith & Wesson 4506-1 is also very similar. So I'm in a doubt and need help. Greg-Z (talk) 17:07, 13 September 2015 (EDT)

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Smith & Wesson 1006 - 10mm Auto
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A later model Smith & Wesson 4506-1 - .45 ACP. Note the lack of a 'step up' in the frame that the older 4506 has as well as the rounded trigger guard. Also note the straight backstrap to the pistol grip versus the curved backstrap on the older model.
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I think it's just more likely be a 4506. The bore also looks closer to a. 45. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:23, 13 September 2015 (EDT)
Thanks! Greg-Z (talk) 02:24, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
I concur, and will add that is most likely a newer (probably brand-new at that time) S&W 4506-1 given the blued trigger and hammer - The 1006 was never made long enough to feature blued components like the 4506. StanTheMan (talk) 14:31, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Some IDs

The Ithaca "Stakeout" is just a normal riot-length Ithaca with nickel finish (not parkerized) and pistol grip - Stakeouts are all short-barreled shotguns AFAIK. Also, the M16A2s are likely all M16A1 mockups, they appear to have the thinner barrels and the A1 upper is quite visible in the one closeup shot showing the receiver. Also, the MP5A3s have Surefire light forends, not the slimline ones - That said, I think they are HK94A3s, the couple of close shots, though blurry, show what look to be metal lower receivers without the paddle mag release and non-lugged barrels. Also, the suppressed SIG seems a bit short - It might be a P228 rather than a P226, not certain on that one though. StanTheMan (talk) 14:25, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Thanks, I'll make corrections. Greg-Z (talk) 14:57, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

that not pump-action shotgun !!

‎This will not be able to pump action. - KINKI'boy (talk) 22:25, 16 September 2015 (JST)

Agreed, nice catch. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:33, 16 September 2015 (EDT)
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Remington 870 with a heatshield, Surefire light - 12 gauge

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Remington Model 1100 with pistol grip stock - 12 gauge

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Benelli M1 Super 90 in synthetic straight stock configuration, ghost ring sights - 12 gauge

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M1 Super 90 model with Surefire dedicated weaponlight - 12 gauge
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Two deputies fire semi-auto shotguns.
OK, I'll make several additional screenshots of this scene so we can see more action of these shotguns. Greg-Z (talk) 09:33, 16 September 2015 (EDT)
Sorry, I was wrong. They are really firing semi auto. Thanks. Greg-Z (talk) 11:54, 16 September 2015 (EDT)
Seems the Surefire foregrip doesn't cover the whole length of the rear part of the mag tube making it look like a pump-action at first glance. That last gun image of the M1 Super 90 shows this pretty clearly. I also agree, that's a good catch there. StanTheMan (talk) 14:33, 16 September 2015 (EDT)