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I have to question the production dates here. With the lack of military and civilian sales, how could it stay in production for that long? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 08:36, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | I have to question the production dates here. With the lack of military and civilian sales, how could it stay in production for that long? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 08:36, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
Good question. Maybe just remove the production date? Because yeah, if it had been in production for that long, they would have showed up somewhere by now.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 10:37, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | :Good question. Maybe just remove the production date? Because yeah, if it had been in production for that long, they would have showed up somewhere by now.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 10:37, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
::This production data is taken from Wikipedia, but [http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Submachine-Guns/Colt_SCAMP.htm the source] for this Wiki article doesn't contain such info. I guess that it's an error, and we'll better remove this. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 11:02, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::The wikipedia dates are even more ludicrous, since it states production started in 1957. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:32, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::As far as I know the dated would be that it was conceptualised in 1969, prototype completed in 1971, shopped around in the mid '70s, seemingly abandoned by the end of the '70s. Therefore I think the correct way to date this would be (1971 - ????). However, more importantly, does this thing even remotely deserve a page though? It is only here because of the GTA5 ID which I do not think it looks even remotely like. The ID appears to be based solely on the fact that it is a full auto (actually burst, but whatever) pistol, rather than any physical features it actually has. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:35, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::Yeah, the BTA gun doesn't really look like the SCAMP.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 14:46, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::::I'll let the GTA players decide, but if it isn't, then it's gone. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:57, 7 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
Btw I find it weird that Modern Firearms categorizes it as an SMG. Isn't it closer to a pistol? (especially that it was intended to replace the M1911, etc.) --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 15:57, 24 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
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The Colt SCAMP (Small Caliber Automatic Machine Pistol) was a recoil-operated, locking breech, selective fire machine pistol. It was made to replace the [[M1911A1]]. It featured a compensator, a 27-round magazine, and also a capability of three round burst. It was chambered in .22 SCAMP (5.56x29mm) cartridge that was meant to avoid the high recoil. But the army wasn't interested to replace the M1911A1 in 1971 (when the SCAMP entered in production) so due to the lack of sales, the production was ended after two decades. | |||
[[Image:Coltscamp.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt SCAMP - .22 SCAMP]] | |||
{{Gun Title}} | |||
==Specifications== | |||
(1971-?) | |||
*'''Type''': Machine pistol | |||
*'''Caliber''': .22 SCAMP | |||
*'''Weight''': 2.25 pounds (1.02kg) unloaded, 3.24 pounds (1.47 kg) loaded | |||
*'''Length''': 11.41 inches (29 cm) | |||
*'''Barrel length''': 9.12 inches (23.2 cm) | |||
*'''Capacity''': 27 | |||
*'''Fire modes''': Semi Automatic/Three Round Burst | |||
[[Category:Storage]] | |||
Latest revision as of 19:57, 24 August 2017
I have to question the production dates here. With the lack of military and civilian sales, how could it stay in production for that long? --Funkychinaman (talk) 08:36, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- Good question. Maybe just remove the production date? Because yeah, if it had been in production for that long, they would have showed up somewhere by now.--Mandolin (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- This production data is taken from Wikipedia, but the source for this Wiki article doesn't contain such info. I guess that it's an error, and we'll better remove this. Greg-Z (talk) 11:02, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- The wikipedia dates are even more ludicrous, since it states production started in 1957. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:32, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- As far as I know the dated would be that it was conceptualised in 1969, prototype completed in 1971, shopped around in the mid '70s, seemingly abandoned by the end of the '70s. Therefore I think the correct way to date this would be (1971 - ????). However, more importantly, does this thing even remotely deserve a page though? It is only here because of the GTA5 ID which I do not think it looks even remotely like. The ID appears to be based solely on the fact that it is a full auto (actually burst, but whatever) pistol, rather than any physical features it actually has. --commando552 (talk) 13:35, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- Yeah, the BTA gun doesn't really look like the SCAMP.--Mandolin (talk) 14:46, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- I'll let the GTA players decide, but if it isn't, then it's gone. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:57, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- Yeah, the BTA gun doesn't really look like the SCAMP.--Mandolin (talk) 14:46, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- As far as I know the dated would be that it was conceptualised in 1969, prototype completed in 1971, shopped around in the mid '70s, seemingly abandoned by the end of the '70s. Therefore I think the correct way to date this would be (1971 - ????). However, more importantly, does this thing even remotely deserve a page though? It is only here because of the GTA5 ID which I do not think it looks even remotely like. The ID appears to be based solely on the fact that it is a full auto (actually burst, but whatever) pistol, rather than any physical features it actually has. --commando552 (talk) 13:35, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- The wikipedia dates are even more ludicrous, since it states production started in 1957. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:32, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
- This production data is taken from Wikipedia, but the source for this Wiki article doesn't contain such info. I guess that it's an error, and we'll better remove this. Greg-Z (talk) 11:02, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
Btw I find it weird that Modern Firearms categorizes it as an SMG. Isn't it closer to a pistol? (especially that it was intended to replace the M1911, etc.) --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
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The Colt SCAMP (Small Caliber Automatic Machine Pistol) was a recoil-operated, locking breech, selective fire machine pistol. It was made to replace the M1911A1. It featured a compensator, a 27-round magazine, and also a capability of three round burst. It was chambered in .22 SCAMP (5.56x29mm) cartridge that was meant to avoid the high recoil. But the army wasn't interested to replace the M1911A1 in 1971 (when the SCAMP entered in production) so due to the lack of sales, the production was ended after two decades.
The Colt SCAMP and variants can be seen in the following films, television series, video games, and anime used by the following actors:
Specifications
(1971-?)
- Type: Machine pistol
- Caliber: .22 SCAMP
- Weight: 2.25 pounds (1.02kg) unloaded, 3.24 pounds (1.47 kg) loaded
- Length: 11.41 inches (29 cm)
- Barrel length: 9.12 inches (23.2 cm)
- Capacity: 27
- Fire modes: Semi Automatic/Three Round Burst