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== LT Green's AR == | == LT Green's AR == | ||
I think this is an HK416 rather than an M4 isn't it? | I think this is an HK416 rather than an M4 isn't it? | ||
: He used an HK416 in the last season, and it appears that this rifle has an HK416 style handguard and lacks the M4 front sight block. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:35, 22 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
== The Rebel's weapons == | == The Rebel's weapons == | ||
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::Thank you one more ? looks like one of the rebels in the first is wielding some kind of rifle with a pig-sticker bayonet but it was weird looking it was folded sideways what do you think it was?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 16:38, 24 June 2015 (EDT) | ::Thank you one more ? looks like one of the rebels in the first is wielding some kind of rifle with a pig-sticker bayonet but it was weird looking it was folded sideways what do you think it was?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 16:38, 24 June 2015 (EDT) | ||
:::Didn't spot the bayonet, but saw what i think were 2 or 3 different shotguns used by the rebels. When they are walking through the tunnels at towards the end of S02E01 the rebel behind Burk has a shotgun with what looks like a short barrel and ghost ring sights. in S02E02 after they bust in and start heading up the stairs one of the rebels has what looks like an 870 with standard length magazine tube. Lastly, when Burk splits off one of the guys that goes with him has what looks like it could have been a Benelli M4 (happens about 2 seconds before the SVD cap), but this could be the same shotgun as the first one, couldn't really tell. Also, in the scene shortly after this where Tex is peeking through the door on the stairs, his "MP5" is missing the paddle release and appears to have no lugs on the muzzle so it might have been a chopped HK94. It deffinitely switches though as in other scenes it has the paddle release and an SEF lower. One more thing I just remembered, McGregor's M16 has A1 rear sights and handguard so is probably an A1 but didn't ever notice if it has a BD so could be a C7 type rifle, whereas Thorwald's has a removable carry handle making it an A4. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:44, 24 June 2015 (EDT) | :::Didn't spot the bayonet, but saw what i think were 2 or 3 different shotguns used by the rebels. When they are walking through the tunnels at towards the end of S02E01 the rebel behind Burk has a shotgun with what looks like a short barrel and ghost ring sights. in S02E02 after they bust in and start heading up the stairs one of the rebels has what looks like an 870 with standard length magazine tube. Lastly, when Burk splits off one of the guys that goes with him has what looks like it could have been a Benelli M4 (happens about 2 seconds before the SVD cap), but this could be the same shotgun as the first one, couldn't really tell. Also, in the scene shortly after this where Tex is peeking through the door on the stairs, his "MP5" is missing the paddle release and appears to have no lugs on the muzzle so it might have been a chopped HK94. It deffinitely switches though as in other scenes it has the paddle release and an SEF lower. One more thing I just remembered, McGregor's M16 has A1 rear sights and handguard so is probably an A1 but didn't ever notice if it has a BD so could be a C7 type rifle, whereas Thorwald's has a removable carry handle making it an A4. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:44, 24 June 2015 (EDT) | ||
::::There is a better shot of the Benelli later, in the background when Green is treating Granderson. There was also the MG on the helicopter which looked like an M249. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:14, 24 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::I figured out what it was it looks like what appears to be a SKS carbine you can see it when Thorwald walks past the first guy on his right it definitely looks like a SKS.--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 16:12, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::::What scene is that in, I never spotted an SKS. Not syaing it isn't there, I am just curios where you saw it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:10, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::::When thorwald tells his men to lower his weapons in the scene where he meets commander chandler when the camera pans back to chandler the muzzle can be scene.--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 17:34, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::::::Ah, wasn't looking in that episode, I was looking in the next episode when they get into Granderson's compound. I agree that this rifle is an SKS, when Thorwald is saying "What are you doing here, why aren't you at the plant?" you can see the SKS slung on someone's back showing the distinctive bolt with integral stripper clip guide. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:53, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
==New guns this week== | |||
I spotted an AUG A3 used by Wolf, a CornerShot with a full-auto Glock used by one of the mercenaries on the hospital ship, an MP5K-PDW was used by another of the mercenaries, and a Sailor on the Nathan James used a wood-stocked M14 with a sniper scope and bipod. There's probably more, but those are just the ones I could see clearly; the rest went by too quick for me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:02, 5 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
:There was also a B&T MP9, carried by the guy who got wounded by the sailor with the M14. In the same scene I also noticed that Green was carrying a different HK416 with a 14.5" barrel, don't know if it was just this scene or for the whole episode as I only noticed it then. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:36, 6 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
And although not from this week, I also zoomed in on the pic of the SEALs and there appears to be a couple of M203A1s and an M249 Para. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:06, 5 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
:A few of the SEALs also have what appear to be suppressed Model 933s. They could just be M4s with a cosmetic slip over sleeve, but as they all have Crane stocks I am more inclined to say that they are different weapons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:46, 6 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
I know this is late, but upon closer examination, the M14 looks like it might be an M1A in an M14 stock because there appears to just be empty space in the hole where the selector switch would be. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:47, 30 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
==FN Five-Seven== | |||
I don't think the FN Five-Seven listed on the page is actually a Five-Seven, judging by the shape of the grip, and size of the mag well, I'd say it was a M1911 of some description. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]])13:58, 08 July 2015 (GMT) | |||
:The presence of a visible, conventional looking guide rail also precludes it being a Five-Seven, as that has a weird T shaped slide rail in this position rather than a guide rod, and it would be fully shrouded by the full length dust cover from this angle anyway. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:06, 8 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 21:48, 28 July 2023
LT Green's AR
I think this is an HK416 rather than an M4 isn't it?
- He used an HK416 in the last season, and it appears that this rifle has an HK416 style handguard and lacks the M4 front sight block. --commando552 (talk) 11:35, 22 June 2015 (EDT)
The Rebel's weapons
When the rebels busted into Granderson's compound some of them were armed with M1 Garand, SVD Dragunov, and some AK's can anyone confirm this?--Balin21 (talk) 14:58, 22 June 2015 (EDT)
- They're on the page --RedRobinAlpha (talk) 21:04, 22 June 2015 (GMT)
- Thank you one more ? looks like one of the rebels in the first is wielding some kind of rifle with a pig-sticker bayonet but it was weird looking it was folded sideways what do you think it was?--Balin21 (talk) 16:38, 24 June 2015 (EDT)
- Didn't spot the bayonet, but saw what i think were 2 or 3 different shotguns used by the rebels. When they are walking through the tunnels at towards the end of S02E01 the rebel behind Burk has a shotgun with what looks like a short barrel and ghost ring sights. in S02E02 after they bust in and start heading up the stairs one of the rebels has what looks like an 870 with standard length magazine tube. Lastly, when Burk splits off one of the guys that goes with him has what looks like it could have been a Benelli M4 (happens about 2 seconds before the SVD cap), but this could be the same shotgun as the first one, couldn't really tell. Also, in the scene shortly after this where Tex is peeking through the door on the stairs, his "MP5" is missing the paddle release and appears to have no lugs on the muzzle so it might have been a chopped HK94. It deffinitely switches though as in other scenes it has the paddle release and an SEF lower. One more thing I just remembered, McGregor's M16 has A1 rear sights and handguard so is probably an A1 but didn't ever notice if it has a BD so could be a C7 type rifle, whereas Thorwald's has a removable carry handle making it an A4. --commando552 (talk) 18:44, 24 June 2015 (EDT)
- There is a better shot of the Benelli later, in the background when Green is treating Granderson. There was also the MG on the helicopter which looked like an M249. --commando552 (talk) 19:14, 24 June 2015 (EDT)
- I figured out what it was it looks like what appears to be a SKS carbine you can see it when Thorwald walks past the first guy on his right it definitely looks like a SKS.--Balin21 (talk) 16:12, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
- What scene is that in, I never spotted an SKS. Not syaing it isn't there, I am just curios where you saw it. --commando552 (talk) 17:10, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
- When thorwald tells his men to lower his weapons in the scene where he meets commander chandler when the camera pans back to chandler the muzzle can be scene.--Balin21 (talk) 17:34, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
- Ah, wasn't looking in that episode, I was looking in the next episode when they get into Granderson's compound. I agree that this rifle is an SKS, when Thorwald is saying "What are you doing here, why aren't you at the plant?" you can see the SKS slung on someone's back showing the distinctive bolt with integral stripper clip guide. --commando552 (talk) 17:53, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
- When thorwald tells his men to lower his weapons in the scene where he meets commander chandler when the camera pans back to chandler the muzzle can be scene.--Balin21 (talk) 17:34, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
- What scene is that in, I never spotted an SKS. Not syaing it isn't there, I am just curios where you saw it. --commando552 (talk) 17:10, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
- I figured out what it was it looks like what appears to be a SKS carbine you can see it when Thorwald walks past the first guy on his right it definitely looks like a SKS.--Balin21 (talk) 16:12, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
- There is a better shot of the Benelli later, in the background when Green is treating Granderson. There was also the MG on the helicopter which looked like an M249. --commando552 (talk) 19:14, 24 June 2015 (EDT)
- Didn't spot the bayonet, but saw what i think were 2 or 3 different shotguns used by the rebels. When they are walking through the tunnels at towards the end of S02E01 the rebel behind Burk has a shotgun with what looks like a short barrel and ghost ring sights. in S02E02 after they bust in and start heading up the stairs one of the rebels has what looks like an 870 with standard length magazine tube. Lastly, when Burk splits off one of the guys that goes with him has what looks like it could have been a Benelli M4 (happens about 2 seconds before the SVD cap), but this could be the same shotgun as the first one, couldn't really tell. Also, in the scene shortly after this where Tex is peeking through the door on the stairs, his "MP5" is missing the paddle release and appears to have no lugs on the muzzle so it might have been a chopped HK94. It deffinitely switches though as in other scenes it has the paddle release and an SEF lower. One more thing I just remembered, McGregor's M16 has A1 rear sights and handguard so is probably an A1 but didn't ever notice if it has a BD so could be a C7 type rifle, whereas Thorwald's has a removable carry handle making it an A4. --commando552 (talk) 18:44, 24 June 2015 (EDT)
- Thank you one more ? looks like one of the rebels in the first is wielding some kind of rifle with a pig-sticker bayonet but it was weird looking it was folded sideways what do you think it was?--Balin21 (talk) 16:38, 24 June 2015 (EDT)
New guns this week
I spotted an AUG A3 used by Wolf, a CornerShot with a full-auto Glock used by one of the mercenaries on the hospital ship, an MP5K-PDW was used by another of the mercenaries, and a Sailor on the Nathan James used a wood-stocked M14 with a sniper scope and bipod. There's probably more, but those are just the ones I could see clearly; the rest went by too quick for me. Spartan198 (talk) 22:02, 5 July 2015 (EDT)
- There was also a B&T MP9, carried by the guy who got wounded by the sailor with the M14. In the same scene I also noticed that Green was carrying a different HK416 with a 14.5" barrel, don't know if it was just this scene or for the whole episode as I only noticed it then. --commando552 (talk) 20:36, 6 July 2015 (EDT)
And although not from this week, I also zoomed in on the pic of the SEALs and there appears to be a couple of M203A1s and an M249 Para. Spartan198 (talk) 22:06, 5 July 2015 (EDT)
- A few of the SEALs also have what appear to be suppressed Model 933s. They could just be M4s with a cosmetic slip over sleeve, but as they all have Crane stocks I am more inclined to say that they are different weapons. --commando552 (talk) 04:46, 6 July 2015 (EDT)
I know this is late, but upon closer examination, the M14 looks like it might be an M1A in an M14 stock because there appears to just be empty space in the hole where the selector switch would be. Spartan198 (talk) 19:47, 30 May 2016 (EDT)
FN Five-Seven
I don't think the FN Five-Seven listed on the page is actually a Five-Seven, judging by the shape of the grip, and size of the mag well, I'd say it was a M1911 of some description. --RedRobinAlpha (talk)13:58, 08 July 2015 (GMT)
- The presence of a visible, conventional looking guide rail also precludes it being a Five-Seven, as that has a weird T shaped slide rail in this position rather than a guide rod, and it would be fully shrouded by the full length dust cover from this angle anyway. --commando552 (talk) 10:06, 8 July 2015 (EDT)