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Are we certain about the M1911? In the third cap, it appears to be missing a manual safety. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:49, 1 June 2015 (EDT) | Are we certain about the M1911? In the third cap, it appears to be missing a manual safety. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:49, 1 June 2015 (EDT) | ||
:You are right, it's not a 1911. A brief search on 1911 family didn't give any clue to this mystery. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:19, 1 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
An interesting fact: J.M. Browning's model 1910 [http://coltautos.com/images/1910_5.jpg didn't have thumb safety] (but it never was adopted and hardly can appear in a movie). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:21, 2 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:That was my first thought, but like you said, it's unlike it'd end up a prop weapon. Maybe a French or Spanish knockoff? A Star or a Llama? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:17, 2 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
::All 1911-style Star and Llama pistols than I could find in books and web have manual safety. The same thing with less known pistols, such as Spanish Mugica and Tauler, French Union France, Argentinean Ballester-Molina and Mexican Obregon. I suspect that it's not a real pistol but a toy gun. It's not used in action and seen only when Kinski handles it to Hoffmann and then in Hoffmann's bed until he throws the gun away. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 11:16, 2 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::I found out a 1911-style pistol that lacks a manual safety: it's an early version of Star Model D, as shown on [http://star-firearms.com/firearms/guns/d/images/first-model-d-S.jpg Star Firearms website]: "A number of early Star compact pistols, even when derived from the A/B series, seem to have been produced for brief periods with a pocket pistol control layout before they moved to adopting the Colt style safety at the rear. A model D of this type was apparently made from 1922-32.". But the screen pistol still looks a little different from this Model D, and it appears to be larger. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:51, 19 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
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Are we certain about the M1911? In the third cap, it appears to be missing a manual safety. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:49, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
- You are right, it's not a 1911. A brief search on 1911 family didn't give any clue to this mystery. Greg-Z (talk) 16:19, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
An interesting fact: J.M. Browning's model 1910 didn't have thumb safety (but it never was adopted and hardly can appear in a movie). Greg-Z (talk) 07:21, 2 June 2015 (EDT)
- That was my first thought, but like you said, it's unlike it'd end up a prop weapon. Maybe a French or Spanish knockoff? A Star or a Llama? --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:17, 2 June 2015 (EDT)
- All 1911-style Star and Llama pistols than I could find in books and web have manual safety. The same thing with less known pistols, such as Spanish Mugica and Tauler, French Union France, Argentinean Ballester-Molina and Mexican Obregon. I suspect that it's not a real pistol but a toy gun. It's not used in action and seen only when Kinski handles it to Hoffmann and then in Hoffmann's bed until he throws the gun away. Greg-Z (talk) 11:16, 2 June 2015 (EDT)
- I found out a 1911-style pistol that lacks a manual safety: it's an early version of Star Model D, as shown on Star Firearms website: "A number of early Star compact pistols, even when derived from the A/B series, seem to have been produced for brief periods with a pocket pistol control layout before they moved to adopting the Colt style safety at the rear. A model D of this type was apparently made from 1922-32.". But the screen pistol still looks a little different from this Model D, and it appears to be larger. Greg-Z (talk) 08:51, 19 September 2015 (EDT)
- All 1911-style Star and Llama pistols than I could find in books and web have manual safety. The same thing with less known pistols, such as Spanish Mugica and Tauler, French Union France, Argentinean Ballester-Molina and Mexican Obregon. I suspect that it's not a real pistol but a toy gun. It's not used in action and seen only when Kinski handles it to Hoffmann and then in Hoffmann's bed until he throws the gun away. Greg-Z (talk) 11:16, 2 June 2015 (EDT)
