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Because if they're in some collection or museum, maybe it would be possible to get a better photo.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 11:51, 1 August 2014 (EDT) | Because if they're in some collection or museum, maybe it would be possible to get a better photo.--[[User:Maxmali|Maxmali]] ([[User talk:Maxmali|talk]]) 11:51, 1 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
: They were apparently tested to destruction. Forgotten Weapons have a video on the weapon. | |||
: [[User:Tibfulv|Tibfulv]] ([[User talk:Tibfulv|talk]]) 17:40, 8 April 2021 (EDT) | |||
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:That looks like some kind of pump-action background prop, it doesn't have the hooked charging handle or a trigger and the forend seems to be fixed to the barrel. [http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jackhammer_diagram.jpg Compare], that mechanism wouldn't fit in the thing you posted. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 06:12, 9 May 2015 (EDT) | :That looks like some kind of pump-action background prop, it doesn't have the hooked charging handle or a trigger and the forend seems to be fixed to the barrel. [http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jackhammer_diagram.jpg Compare], that mechanism wouldn't fit in the thing you posted. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 06:12, 9 May 2015 (EDT) | ||
::I think that the image you posted is actually the prop weapon from "No Escape", and is just a prop weapon based on the Pancor rather than actually being anything real. Not only does this have differences from a real Pancor, it would be physically impossible for it to work anyway as the axis of the barrel and the top chamber of the magazine and the bolt channel are obviously offset from one another. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:25, 9 May 2015 (EDT) | ::I think that the image you posted is actually the prop weapon from "No Escape", and is just a prop weapon based on the Pancor rather than actually being anything real. Not only does this have differences from a real Pancor, it would be physically impossible for it to work anyway as the axis of the barrel and the top chamber of the magazine and the bolt channel are obviously offset from one another. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:25, 9 May 2015 (EDT) | ||
:::So this confirms that we shouldn't look again in the gun wiki lol; it doesn't appear to be quality controlled anyway. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 06:18, 10 May 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::Here is this thing, in case someone is still wondering: [https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/no-escape-1994-prop-gun-ray-liotta-tactical-rifle]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 12:43, 30 July 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Video of the last Pancor Jackhammer in existence == | |||
Adding this source here for those wanting information on the gun. | |||
https://www.full30.com/video/05172f0bde59d073137b3185af684664 | |||
:Interesting, though most videogame weapons seem to be based on the pre-production version, not that one. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 18:32, 14 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::It sure made one hell of a clank when he pumped it. CLONK!--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 20:01, 14 January 2016 (EST) | |||
: Alternative source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VKGhqIl4Gw | |||
: [[User:Tibfulv|Tibfulv]] ([[User talk:Tibfulv|talk]]) 17:40, 8 April 2021 (EDT) | |||
He just put out a second video about another surviving one: https://youtu.be/b4SfB6GR62Q. This one is a later model known as the Mk3-A2, and appears to be what most depictions are based on. Also, should we get rid of the part about this having factory sealed ammo? Both the prototype and last model load from standard 2 3/4" shells. My guess is that this was just an idea or concept (like the landmine thing) that never actually made it into the final firearm. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:02, 26 April 2021 (EDT) | |||
:I think that where the proprietary sealed cassette thing might come from is that supposedly the Jackhammer was also compatible with a very heavy load called "Jack Shot", and I can imagine that this could be intended to be used from factory made cassettes as they were not a "normal" round. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:55, 26 April 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Jackhammer Mk1? == | |||
Anybody have a clue what the original version that had military testing looked like? My guess would be that it is what the drawings on the Wikipedia page are, as this looks like a halfway model between the toolroom prototype and the Mk3-A2. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:52, 26 April 2021 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 14:55, 26 April 2021
If there have been two of these shotguns made, where are they? Have they been scrapped? Because if they're in some collection or museum, maybe it would be possible to get a better photo.--Maxmali (talk) 11:51, 1 August 2014 (EDT)
- They were apparently tested to destruction. Forgotten Weapons have a video on the weapon.
- Tibfulv (talk) 17:40, 8 April 2021 (EDT)
Why is fallout 3 on this page? 193.1.104.2 18:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Dunno, but don't worry, it's gone now BeardedHoplite 18:42, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
No Escape
A long time ago the page stated the weapon to appear in the 1994 film "No Escape", used by Ray Liotta. Was the fictional weapon in this film based on it or something? (if yes, probably on this MK3A2 variant) --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 05:27, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
- That looks like some kind of pump-action background prop, it doesn't have the hooked charging handle or a trigger and the forend seems to be fixed to the barrel. Compare, that mechanism wouldn't fit in the thing you posted. Evil Tim (talk) 06:12, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
- I think that the image you posted is actually the prop weapon from "No Escape", and is just a prop weapon based on the Pancor rather than actually being anything real. Not only does this have differences from a real Pancor, it would be physically impossible for it to work anyway as the axis of the barrel and the top chamber of the magazine and the bolt channel are obviously offset from one another. --commando552 (talk) 19:25, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
- So this confirms that we shouldn't look again in the gun wiki lol; it doesn't appear to be quality controlled anyway. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 06:18, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
- I think that the image you posted is actually the prop weapon from "No Escape", and is just a prop weapon based on the Pancor rather than actually being anything real. Not only does this have differences from a real Pancor, it would be physically impossible for it to work anyway as the axis of the barrel and the top chamber of the magazine and the bolt channel are obviously offset from one another. --commando552 (talk) 19:25, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
Video of the last Pancor Jackhammer in existence
Adding this source here for those wanting information on the gun. https://www.full30.com/video/05172f0bde59d073137b3185af684664
- Interesting, though most videogame weapons seem to be based on the pre-production version, not that one. Evil Tim (talk) 18:32, 14 January 2016 (EST)
- It sure made one hell of a clank when he pumped it. CLONK!--AnActualAK47 (talk) 20:01, 14 January 2016 (EST)
- Alternative source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VKGhqIl4Gw
- Tibfulv (talk) 17:40, 8 April 2021 (EDT)
He just put out a second video about another surviving one: https://youtu.be/b4SfB6GR62Q. This one is a later model known as the Mk3-A2, and appears to be what most depictions are based on. Also, should we get rid of the part about this having factory sealed ammo? Both the prototype and last model load from standard 2 3/4" shells. My guess is that this was just an idea or concept (like the landmine thing) that never actually made it into the final firearm. --commando552 (talk) 10:02, 26 April 2021 (EDT)
- I think that where the proprietary sealed cassette thing might come from is that supposedly the Jackhammer was also compatible with a very heavy load called "Jack Shot", and I can imagine that this could be intended to be used from factory made cassettes as they were not a "normal" round. --commando552 (talk) 10:55, 26 April 2021 (EDT)
Jackhammer Mk1?
Anybody have a clue what the original version that had military testing looked like? My guess would be that it is what the drawings on the Wikipedia page are, as this looks like a halfway model between the toolroom prototype and the Mk3-A2. --commando552 (talk) 10:52, 26 April 2021 (EDT)