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:First, the rifle, called "Mocked as Mosin Nagant M1891", is a [[Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle]] that is mocked up as a Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I (heavily anachronistic for 1915-16). Second, the large revolver of a Turkish officer resembles an antique Webley Boxer .577, but Boxer had fluted cylinder while the screen revolver has a smooth cylinder so this guess it hardly true. Maybe it's a Webley percussion revolver that predated Boxer (I couldn't find the correct name but it can be seen [http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/000412/412641.jpg here, the bottom one] while the top one is a Boxer). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:17, 31 March 2015 (EDT) | :First, the rifle, called "Mocked as Mosin Nagant M1891", is a [[Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle]] that is mocked up as a Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I (heavily anachronistic for 1915-16). Second, the large revolver of a Turkish officer resembles an antique Webley Boxer .577, but Boxer had fluted cylinder while the screen revolver has a smooth cylinder so this guess it hardly true. Maybe it's a Webley percussion revolver that predated Boxer (I couldn't find the correct name but it can be seen [http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/000412/412641.jpg here, the bottom one] while the top one is a Boxer). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:17, 31 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
:: Thx, Greg! And Mushin' hand grenade?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 01:21, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | :: Thx, Greg! And Mushin' hand grenade?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 01:21, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | ||
::This is certainly not a Boxer, since a bunch of details are different. And it seems to me, or there is has a top-break hinge (although the frame lock is not visible)? I'm silent about the fact that the barrel seems to be well tilted up. It seems to me that this is just some kind of replica made for the film, and perhaps it not a firearm in the full sense of this word. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 16:53, 1 November 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::Sorry, I cannot identify the grenade. BTW, the "mockup of Mosin Nagant" looks too long for Carcano Short Rifle. Sorry, when I made this guess, I haven't seen this screenshot yet. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 05:43, 2 April 2015 (EDT) So it is really Mosin-Nagant? And cannon you know?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 09:32, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | :::Sorry, I cannot identify the grenade. BTW, the "mockup of Mosin Nagant" looks too long for Carcano Short Rifle. Sorry, when I made this guess, I haven't seen this screenshot yet. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 05:43, 2 April 2015 (EDT) So it is really Mosin-Nagant? And cannon you know?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 09:32, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | ||
::::Probably just a full-lenghth Carcano. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:27, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | ::::Probably just a full-lenghth Carcano. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:27, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | ||
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:That first shot looks like its flipped. It looks rather crude, like a mockup. Do you actually see it fire and cycle ammo in the film? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:17, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | :That first shot looks like its flipped. It looks rather crude, like a mockup. Do you actually see it fire and cycle ammo in the film? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:17, 2 April 2015 (EDT) Maybe shoots only blank, but fired.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 14:52, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | ||
::Are you sure it wasn't CGI? The stock looks like a real Mosin-Nagant stock, but everything else looks fake. You can see that it uses modern scope mounting hardware. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:01, 2 April 2015 (EDT) What is CGI?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:31, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::Computer generated muzzle flash. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:48, 2 April 2015 (EDT) It might be! I have not seen flying a cartridges from the chamber.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 01:58, 3 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 20:53, 1 November 2019
It looks like the regular troops are using M1903 Springfields, and it looks like the Australian sniper is using a Carcano mocked up as an SMLE. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:56, 31 March 2015 (EDT)
- First, the rifle, called "Mocked as Mosin Nagant M1891", is a Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle that is mocked up as a Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.I (heavily anachronistic for 1915-16). Second, the large revolver of a Turkish officer resembles an antique Webley Boxer .577, but Boxer had fluted cylinder while the screen revolver has a smooth cylinder so this guess it hardly true. Maybe it's a Webley percussion revolver that predated Boxer (I couldn't find the correct name but it can be seen here, the bottom one while the top one is a Boxer). Greg-Z (talk) 16:17, 31 March 2015 (EDT)
- Thx, Greg! And Mushin' hand grenade?--Pandolfini (talk) 01:21, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- This is certainly not a Boxer, since a bunch of details are different. And it seems to me, or there is has a top-break hinge (although the frame lock is not visible)? I'm silent about the fact that the barrel seems to be well tilted up. It seems to me that this is just some kind of replica made for the film, and perhaps it not a firearm in the full sense of this word. --Slon95 (talk) 16:53, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
- Sorry, I cannot identify the grenade. BTW, the "mockup of Mosin Nagant" looks too long for Carcano Short Rifle. Sorry, when I made this guess, I haven't seen this screenshot yet. Greg-Z (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2015 (EDT) So it is really Mosin-Nagant? And cannon you know?--Pandolfini (talk) 09:32, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- Probably just a full-lenghth Carcano. --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:27, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- On second thought... if that's a fake Mosin-Nagant, and it probably is, they did a really good job with it. It certainly looks like a Mosin-Nagant stock. I'd put it as unknown for now. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:01, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- In reality, no sniper scopes for Mosin Nagant rifles existed during WW1. Snipers of Russian Imperial Army used rifles with standard iron sights. As for the screen rifle, I have one more guess: maybe it's a heavily disguised Turkish Mauser M88/35? The magazine looks similar to the screen one. Of course, the screen gun must have a different bolt handle, taken from another model. Greg-Z (talk) 12:39, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- On second thought... if that's a fake Mosin-Nagant, and it probably is, they did a really good job with it. It certainly looks like a Mosin-Nagant stock. I'd put it as unknown for now. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:01, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- Probably just a full-lenghth Carcano. --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:27, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- Sorry, I cannot identify the grenade. BTW, the "mockup of Mosin Nagant" looks too long for Carcano Short Rifle. Sorry, when I made this guess, I haven't seen this screenshot yet. Greg-Z (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2015 (EDT) So it is really Mosin-Nagant? And cannon you know?--Pandolfini (talk) 09:32, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
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- That first shot looks like its flipped. It looks rather crude, like a mockup. Do you actually see it fire and cycle ammo in the film? --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:17, 2 April 2015 (EDT) Maybe shoots only blank, but fired.--Pandolfini (talk) 14:52, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- Are you sure it wasn't CGI? The stock looks like a real Mosin-Nagant stock, but everything else looks fake. You can see that it uses modern scope mounting hardware. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:01, 2 April 2015 (EDT) What is CGI?--Pandolfini (talk) 18:31, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- Computer generated muzzle flash. --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:48, 2 April 2015 (EDT) It might be! I have not seen flying a cartridges from the chamber.--Pandolfini (talk) 01:58, 3 April 2015 (EDT)
- Are you sure it wasn't CGI? The stock looks like a real Mosin-Nagant stock, but everything else looks fake. You can see that it uses modern scope mounting hardware. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:01, 2 April 2015 (EDT) What is CGI?--Pandolfini (talk) 18:31, 2 April 2015 (EDT)