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[[Image:Flame.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''North West Frontier (aka Flame over India)'' (1959)]]
{{Infobox Movie
|name = North West Frontier (aka Flame over India)
|picture = Flame.jpg
|caption = ''Cinema poster''
|country = [[Image:UKD.jpg|25px]] UK
|director = J. Lee Thompson
|date= 1959
|language = English
|studio= The Rank Organisation
|distributor= Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation
|character1=Captain Scott
|actor1=[[Kenneth More]]
|character2=Catherine Wyatt
|actor2=[[Lauren Bacall]]
|character3=Van Leyden
|actor3=[[Herbert Lom]]
|character4=Mr. Bridie
|actor4=[[Wilfrid Hyde-White]]
|character5=Mr. Peters
|actor5=[[Eugene Deckers]]
|character6=
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|character7=
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'''North West Frontier''' (known in U.S. theatrical and VHS releases as '''Flame over India''') is a 1959 adventure film directed by [[J. Lee Thompson]]. The movie is set in India during 1905. British Army officer, Captain Scott is given the responsibility of escorting a young Hindu prince to safety in the midst of a Muslim rebellion as his survival will ensure the failure of the uprising. The only feasible way to evacuate the boy, his American nanny and a number of other passengers is by an old locomotive over miles of hostile terrain in the hands of the rebels intent on ending the prince's bloodline.
'''North West Frontier''' (known in U.S. theatrical and VHS releases as '''Flame over India''') is a 1959 adventure film directed by [[J. Lee Thompson]]. The movie is set in India during 1905. British Army officer, Captain Scott is given the responsibility of escorting a young Hindu prince to safety in the midst of a Muslim rebellion as his survival will ensure the failure of the uprising. The only feasible way to evacuate the boy, his American nanny and a number of other passengers is by an old locomotive over miles of hostile terrain in the hands of the rebels intent on ending the prince's bloodline.


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==Webley Mk.V==
==Webley Mk.V==
Capt. Scott has a .455 [[Webley Mk V]] revolver as his personal sidearm. It is possible that Scott's sidearm is a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV (not to be confused with the .38 Mk. IV) Webley, the differences between the models mentioned are aesthetically minimal. However, it is difficult to tell which exact model is used since there are only a few glimpses of the revolver in action scenes and the grain of the film obscures the finer details. Historically a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV would be correct, the Mk. V not having been adopted until 1913. A Mk. III is also a possibility and would mean that Scott had purchased his own sidearm rather than it being issued to him since the Mk. III was a commercial endeavor not fully adopted by the British military.
Capt. Scott has a .455 [[Webley Mk V]] revolver as his personal sidearm. It is possible that Scott's sidearm is a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV (not to be confused with the .38 Mk. IV) Webley, the differences between the models mentioned are aesthetically minimal. However, it is difficult to tell which exact model is used since there are only a few glimpses of the revolver in action scenes and the grain of the film obscures the finer details. Historically a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV would be correct, the Mk. V not having been adopted until 1913. A Mk. III is also a possibility and would mean that Scott had purchased his own sidearm rather than it being issued to him since the Mk. III was a commercial endeavor not fully adopted by the British military.
[[Image:Webley Mk. V.JPG|thumb|none|450px|.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎]]
[[Image:Webley Mk. V.JPG|thumb|none|350px|.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎]]
[[Image:Webley1 .jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott ([[Kenneth More]]) fires his Webley from the engine footplate.]]
[[Image:Webley1 .jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott ([[Kenneth More]]) fires his Webley from the engine footplate.]]
[[Image:Webley2 .jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Scott struggles with Van Layden on the roof of the train.]]
[[Image:Webley2 .jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Scott struggles with Van Layden on the roof of the train.]]
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In one scene, Scott's sidearm changes to a [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver, characterized by a longer barrel and a squared-off grip as opposed to a bird's-beak grip as seen on earlier models.
In one scene, Scott's sidearm changes to a [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver, characterized by a longer barrel and a squared-off grip as opposed to a bird's-beak grip as seen on earlier models.
This is a minor anachronism as well as a continuity error as the Mk. VI was not in production until 1915.   
This is a minor anachronism as well as a continuity error as the Mk. VI was not in production until 1915.   
[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|450px|.455 Webley Mk. VI.]]
[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|350px|.455 Webley Mk. VI.]]
[[Image:Webley3 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott investigates a train station with his Webley drawn.]]
[[Image:Webley3 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott investigates a train station with his Webley drawn.]]


=Rifles=
=Rifles=
== Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) ==
== Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III* ==
The [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)]] is seen in the hands of British and Indian soldiers throughout the film as well as in the hands of the rebels and the civilian passengers of the train. The SMLEs that are seen all appear to be of the Mk. III variety which were not in service until 1907. In 1905 troops would be issued with the Mk. I SMLE or earlier models such as the Lee-Enfield Mk. I (Long Lee-Enfield) or Lee-Metford. Given the difficulty of obtaining more correct versions of what is essentially the same rifle, this mistake is more than excusable.
The [[Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III*]] is seen in the hands of British and Indian soldiers throughout the film as well as in the hands of the rebels and the civilian passengers of the train. The SMLEs that are seen all appear to be of the Mk. III variety which were not in service until 1907. In 1905 troops would be issued with the Mk. I SMLE or earlier models such as the Lee-Enfield Mk. I (Long Lee-Enfield) or Lee-Metford. Given the difficulty of obtaining more correct versions of what is essentially the same rifle, this mistake is more than excusable.
[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|.303 SMLE Mk. III.]]
[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III* - .303 British]]
[[Image:SMLE1 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel fires his Lee-Enfield at Scott and his party as they flee.]]
[[Image:SMLE1 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel fires his Lee-Enfield at Scott and his party as they flee.]]
[[Image:SMLE4 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels prepare to ambush the stopped train.]]
[[Image:SMLE4 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels prepare to ambush the stopped train.]]
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[[Image:SMLE7 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bridie demonstrates that he shan't be winning many more prizes with his shooting as he fumbles with his SMLE and accidentally fires it through a window shutter.]]
[[Image:SMLE7 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bridie demonstrates that he shan't be winning many more prizes with his shooting as he fumbles with his SMLE and accidentally fires it through a window shutter.]]
[[Image:SMLEB.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott handed one of their rifles also Catherine Wyatt ([[Lauren Bacall]]).]]
[[Image:SMLEB.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott handed one of their rifles also Catherine Wyatt ([[Lauren Bacall]]).]]
[[Image:SMLE9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Catherine shot Layden at roof of train from a rifle.]]
[[Image:SMLE9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mrs. Wyatt shot Layden at roof of train from a [[Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III*]] rifle.]]


== Lee-Enfield No. 4 ==
== Lee-Enfield No. 4 ==
Some soldiers and rebels can be seen with [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)|Lee-Enfield No. 4]] rifles. This is a grave anachronism as the No. 4 was not fully accepted into service until 1941, 36 years after the film takes place.  
Some soldiers and rebels can be seen with [[Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk I|Lee-Enfield No. 4]] rifles. This is a grave anachronism as the No. 4 was not fully accepted into service until 1941, 36 years after the film takes place.  
[[Image:LeeEnfield4Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|.303 Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk. I. ]]
[[Image:LeeEnfield4Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|.303 Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk. I. ]]
[[Image:NO4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Indian soldier carrying a Lee-Enfield No. 4 helps Prince Kishan's nanny, Mrs Wyatt ([[Lauren Bacall]]) off her horse under fire.]]
[[Image:NO4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|An Indian soldier carrying a Lee-Enfield No. 4 helps Prince Kishan's nanny, Mrs Wyatt ([[Lauren Bacall]]) off her horse under fire.]]


=Machine Gun=
=Machine Gun=
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A pair of .303 [[Maxim]] guns are mounted on the train for defense against hostile rebels along the journey.  
A pair of .303 [[Maxim]] guns are mounted on the train for defense against hostile rebels along the journey.  
[[Image:Maxim1895.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Maxim Model 1895 Machine Gun.]]
[[Image:Maxim1895.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Maxim Model 1895 Machine Gun.]]
[[Image:Maxim1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Indian soldier fires a Maxim at attacking rebels during an ambush.]]
[[Image:Maxim1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|1st Indian soldier Havildar ([[S.M. Asgaralli]]) fires a Maxim at attacking rebels during an ambush.]]
[[Image:Maxim2a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Maxim is used against rebels attacking from the hills.]]
[[Image:Maxim2a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Maxim is used against rebels attacking from the hills.]]
[[Image:Maxim3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Peters attempts to fix a malfunctioned Maxim. He is frustrated that the British buy these guns because the machine guns his firm sells are much better.]]
[[Image:Maxim3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Peters attempts to fix a malfunctioned Maxim. He is frustrated that the British buy these guns because the machine guns his firm sells are much better.]]
[[Image:Maxim4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Van Layden with a Maxim.]]
[[Image:Maxim3b.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Van Layden ([[Herbert Lom]]) with a Maxim.]]
[[Image:Maxim5 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott fires at pursuing horsemen.]]
[[Image:Maxim5 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott fires at pursuing horsemen.]]
[[Image:Maxim6a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr Bridie ([[Wilfrid Hyde-White]]) (left) helped as feeder of belts and alternates with captain Scott as gunner.]]


=Other=
=Other=

Latest revision as of 01:27, 18 December 2019


North West Frontier (aka Flame over India)
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Cinema poster
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Directed by J. Lee Thompson
Release Date 1959
Language English
Studio The Rank Organisation
Distributor Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation
Main Cast
Character Actor
Captain Scott Kenneth More
Catherine Wyatt Lauren Bacall
Van Leyden Herbert Lom
Mr. Bridie Wilfrid Hyde-White
Mr. Peters Eugene Deckers


North West Frontier (known in U.S. theatrical and VHS releases as Flame over India) is a 1959 adventure film directed by J. Lee Thompson. The movie is set in India during 1905. British Army officer, Captain Scott is given the responsibility of escorting a young Hindu prince to safety in the midst of a Muslim rebellion as his survival will ensure the failure of the uprising. The only feasible way to evacuate the boy, his American nanny and a number of other passengers is by an old locomotive over miles of hostile terrain in the hands of the rebels intent on ending the prince's bloodline.

The following firearms were used in the film North West Frontier:



Revolver

Webley Mk.V

Capt. Scott has a .455 Webley Mk V revolver as his personal sidearm. It is possible that Scott's sidearm is a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV (not to be confused with the .38 Mk. IV) Webley, the differences between the models mentioned are aesthetically minimal. However, it is difficult to tell which exact model is used since there are only a few glimpses of the revolver in action scenes and the grain of the film obscures the finer details. Historically a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV would be correct, the Mk. V not having been adopted until 1913. A Mk. III is also a possibility and would mean that Scott had purchased his own sidearm rather than it being issued to him since the Mk. III was a commercial endeavor not fully adopted by the British military.

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.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎
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Capt. Scott (Kenneth More) fires his Webley from the engine footplate.
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Scott struggles with Van Layden on the roof of the train.
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Van Layden (Herbert Lom) disarms Scott and pick up his gun.

Webley Mk.VI

In one scene, Scott's sidearm changes to a Webley Mk VI revolver, characterized by a longer barrel and a squared-off grip as opposed to a bird's-beak grip as seen on earlier models. This is a minor anachronism as well as a continuity error as the Mk. VI was not in production until 1915.

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.455 Webley Mk. VI.
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Capt. Scott investigates a train station with his Webley drawn.

Rifles

Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III*

The Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III* is seen in the hands of British and Indian soldiers throughout the film as well as in the hands of the rebels and the civilian passengers of the train. The SMLEs that are seen all appear to be of the Mk. III variety which were not in service until 1907. In 1905 troops would be issued with the Mk. I SMLE or earlier models such as the Lee-Enfield Mk. I (Long Lee-Enfield) or Lee-Metford. Given the difficulty of obtaining more correct versions of what is essentially the same rifle, this mistake is more than excusable.

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Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III* - .303 British
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A rebel fires his Lee-Enfield at Scott and his party as they flee.
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Rebels prepare to ambush the stopped train.
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Mr Peters (Eugene Deckers), an arms merchant, is given a Lee-Enfield by Scott who apologizes that it is made by a rival firm.
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Mr Bridie (Wilfrid Hyde-White) tells Capt. Scott of the time he won a cigarette case on Brighton Pier with a rifle.
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Bridie demonstrates that he shan't be winning many more prizes with his shooting as he fumbles with his SMLE and accidentally fires it through a window shutter.
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Capt. Scott handed one of their rifles also Catherine Wyatt (Lauren Bacall).
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Mrs. Wyatt shot Layden at roof of train from a Lee-Enfield No. 1 Mk III* rifle.

Lee-Enfield No. 4

Some soldiers and rebels can be seen with Lee-Enfield No. 4 rifles. This is a grave anachronism as the No. 4 was not fully accepted into service until 1941, 36 years after the film takes place.

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.303 Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk. I.
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An Indian soldier carrying a Lee-Enfield No. 4 helps Prince Kishan's nanny, Mrs Wyatt (Lauren Bacall) off her horse under fire.

Machine Gun

Maxim Machine Gun

A pair of .303 Maxim guns are mounted on the train for defense against hostile rebels along the journey.

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Maxim Model 1895 Machine Gun.
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1st Indian soldier Havildar (S.M. Asgaralli) fires a Maxim at attacking rebels during an ambush.
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A Maxim is used against rebels attacking from the hills.
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Peters attempts to fix a malfunctioned Maxim. He is frustrated that the British buy these guns because the machine guns his firm sells are much better.
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Van Layden (Herbert Lom) with a Maxim.
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Capt. Scott fires at pursuing horsemen.
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Mr Bridie (Wilfrid Hyde-White) (left) helped as feeder of belts and alternates with captain Scott as gunner.

Other

Unidentified Muskets

In some instances, Rebels can be seen carrying what appear to be muzzle-loading muskets into action. From their appearance they could be dummies made for the film. Interestingly, there was, and still is a large gunsmithing tradition in the North West Frontier province. Crude copies of captured British firearms were made through cottage industry along with traditional oriental musket designs. The quality of such firearms is notoriously poor and they are generally considered unsafe to fire with modern ammunition.

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Rebels move into position with their muskets.

QF 2.95 inch Mountain Gun

During the defense of Haserabad in the film's opening, Quick-Firing 2.95 inch Mountain Guns (pack howitzers) are used against attacking rebel forces. These guns were used extensively by colonial forces in the British Empire but were not officially adopted for British Army service.

QF 2.95 inch Mountain Gun.
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The guns open fire.
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An empty shell casing is ejected from the breech.
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The bombardment continues.

Unidentified Cannon

A muzzle-loading cannon is seen on the walls of Haserabad when the town is under attack. Since the film was shot in Spain this could be a locally made example. Such a cannon would be considered obsolete by 1905 with the advent of quick-firing artillery, however there is no doubt they would still prove useful in a desperate situation such as this.

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The cannon prior to firing at the approaching rebel army.