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* I was in the long travelling from Tomsk to Baikal. Now I returned for the work on this page.
* I was in the long travelling from Tomsk to Baikal. Now I returned for the work on this page.


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'''The Stalin Subway''' (''Russian title "Метро-2", "Metro-2"'') - is a russian FPS published in 2005. The story of this game take place in 1952 and it`s about the great conspiracy of USSR government with L. Beria against old Stalin. The hero of this game, Gleb Suvorov, who is a ember of MBG, must destroy their planes to capture the governance.
== AK-74 variant WTF ==


Also here is a sequel, '''"The Stalin Subwai: Red Veil"''' (''Russian title "Метро-2: Смерть вождя", "Metro-2: Smert vozhdya"'', published in 2006. The story of it take place in 1953, after Stalin`s death. Beria try to capture governance again. He arrested Gleb, but his wife, Lena Suvorova, eloped from soldiers. So she has to free his husband and destroy the evil planes of Beria again.
AK-74 got into serial production well - only in mid 1970s. But that's only half of the problem. The other half of the problem is that the weapon itself make NO appearance in the game and the only "evidence" presented is a very blurry picture that only depict the handguard of an AK-type rifle. That's making any attemp of identifying the rifle neary impossible.<br>
As such, I remove this section. --[[User:RussianTrooper|RussianTrooper]] ([[User talk:RussianTrooper|talk]]) 11:50, 12 March 2015 (EDT)


'''Both games has almost the same weapons and graphic, so weapon from both games will be together - with notes about what game is this, of course.'''
= AK-47 =
I also want to add, that the AK-47 used in the game, is the 1953 final production model aka "Type III", which makes it anachronism for the first game (and for the second game, too, because it is very unlikely that the 1953 model immediately entered into mass use in a 1953 year). Historically, the best would be a Type I or Type II. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 14:33, 2 February 2016 (EST)


= Pistols =
:I might add that if I get around to updating the page's text. Anytime I tend to do it, it gets undone by the page creator. Besides that, are we sure that's a SVT-38? It looks more like a standard SVT-40 to me. And it'd make more sense for it to be a SVT-40 rather than the older, less produced and more hated SVT-38. --[[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 16:11, 2 February 2016 (EST)
== Browning Hi-Power ==
Called "Browning Hi-Power 1944" [[Browning Hi-Power]] is a starting weapon in the game "The Stalin Subway: Red Veil" took place in 1953. Lena wields it to elope from the powers of Beria. Also it can be find in some flats (magazines for it also can be founded there). It incorrectly holds 7 cartridges contrary to the real HP which holds 13. This weapon is rather weak, and after the third mission hero loose it. No one enemy use it.
[[File:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Browning Hi-Power SSRV.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Lena Suvorova holds Browning Hi-Power. Note on the unregualed rear sight - it means what this is not early produced HP, and it`s a more later model. Also it`s very intrestingly HOW russian could take belgian pistol in 1953. Maybe, it`s a trophy from Nazi Powers what really had several HP in their servise during the World War II?]]
[[File:Browning Hi-Power 2 SSRV.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Lena reloads HP. We can see what this gun is really HP, not another weapon like TT33. Note on the slide - it has no inscriptions or brands on it.]]


== Luger P08 ==
::Hmm, you're right. It's really much more like the SVT-40. It probably bug of the developers with gun's name, as well as in the game STEN Mk.V incorrectly called as "STEN Mk.II". Thanks! --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 19:25, 2 February 2016 (EST)
In some missions in "Stalin Subway" our hero is Natasha Mikhalyova - the helper of the conspirators. [[Luger P08]], incorrectly called "Mauser P-08", is her starting weapon. Cartridges for it is rare, and weapon is rather weak. No one enemy use it.
[[File:P08Luger1917.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Luger P08 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Luger P08 SS.JPG|thumb|500px|none|Natasha holds his Luger during the mission in Kremlin. Not on the name "Mauser P-08" - it is incorrect. However, some P08s were produced on the "Mauser" during World War II.]]


== Makarov PM ==
=Trivia=
In both games, main heroes and some soviet officers wields PMs. Gleb also can wield in akimbo mode in the "Stalin Subway". This pistol isn`t so accurate as APS, but taking it isn`t a problem.
I don't see any reason why the above Tsar cannon and AK-74 shouldn't be on the main page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 09:39, 13 August 2019 (EDT)
[[File:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Makarov PM - 9x18mm.]]
:Agreed, honestly. If anyone wants to put them in, I certainly wouldn't object. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 13:34, 13 August 2019 (EDT)
[[File:Stalin Subway pm.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
 
== Stechkin APS ==
In the "Stalin Subway", some russian officers and Gleb Suvorov wields [[Stechkin APS]] - very modern pistol for the summer of 1952. This machine pistol fires in the semi-auto. Alternative fire is shooting 5 bullets in full-auto mode. In has 20-round magazine and this is the most accurate pistol in both games.
[[File:Pistol Russian Stechkin 9x18mm Makarov machine pistol 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stechkin APS - 9x18mm.]]
[[File:Stalin Subway APS.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
 
= Submachine guns =
== PPSh-41 ==
[[PPSh-41]] is a common weapon of soviet soliers in both games with [[AK-47]]s. Our can use it also in semi-auto mode. It incorrectly holds 72 cartridges. It`s very powerful, but weak.
[[File:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|450px|none|PPSh-41 - 7,62x25mm]]
[[File:The Stalin Subway PPSh.jpeg|thumb|500px|none|]]
 
== STEN Mk II ==
[[Sten]] submachine guns use by soviet soldiers in the parashutist uniform in the "Stalin Subway". It has wooden stock. Our character can use it in the semi auto mode. It has uncorrectly 30-round magazine and it rather weak.
[[File:Sten Mk 2 wooden stock.JPG|thumb|none|450px|STEN Mk II submachine gun with wooden stock - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:The Stalin Subway STEN.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
 
= Assaut rifles =
== AK-47 ==
[[File:The Stalin Subway AK.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:Metro AK-47.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
 
== AK-74 variant ==
The unknown [[AK-74]] variant can be seen in the game "Stalin Subway" menu under the moving USSR magazines. It seen only partyally - mgazine and foregrip. The magazine of it show us what it was produced for 5,45mm cartridges. But they began producing only since 1972 - highly anachronistic for the summer of 1952. It is unusuable weapon - no one anemy of character use it.
[[File:AK-74 NTW 12 92.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AK-74 - 5,45x39mm]]
[[File:AK-74 SS.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The AK-74 variant can be seen left. We can't see exacly what weapon is this, becaise we can't see all AK.]]
 
= Battle rifles =
== PTRS-41 rifle ==
[[File:PTRS 41.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Anti-tank PTRS-51 rifle - 14,7x114mm.]]
 
== OP-SKS rifle ==
[[SKS rifle|OP-SKS rifle]] called SKS-45 is a standart weapon of russian soidiers in both games. In-game version lacks fixed bayonet - it looks like '''civil''' variant of this rifle. But in the summer of 1952 OP-SKS weren`t produced, making it anachronistic.
[[File:OP-SKS.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Scoped OP-SKS rifle, the civil version of SKS - 7,62x39mm. In-game version looks like this, but without scope.]]
[[File:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Military variant of SKS for comparison - 7,62x39mm.]]
[[File:SS SKS-45.JPG|thumb|500px|none|This is a double shot of SKS rifle - in the hands of Natasha and on the ground. We can see the lack of the fixed bayonet indicating that it is civil variant of SKS, not military.]]
 
== SVT-38 ==
[[File:Stalin Subway SVT.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
 
== SVT-40 ==
[[File:SVT-40 Sniper.jpg|thumb|450px|none|SVT-40 vith PU scope - 7,62x54mm.]]
 
= Machine guns =
== DP-27 light machine gun ==
A [[DP-27]] machine gun, incorrectly called "DPM" in the "Stalin Subway" and "Stationary machine gun DPM" in the "Stalin Subway: Red Veil", is the most powerful gunpowder weapon in the both games. Using 3-cartridges spending, 47 cartidges magazine and full-auto mode, it is very accurate and powerful. Its only weakness is 7,62x54mm cartidges, which are very rare. No one enemy use it.
[[File:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|450px|DP light machine gun - 7,62x54mm]]
[[File:The Stalin Subway DPM.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
 
= Other =
== F-1 hand grenade ==
[[File:Deactivated f1.jpg|thumb|none|F-1 hand grenade.]]
[[File:Stalin Subway F1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
 
== RPG-2 ==
[[File:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|450px|none|RPG-2 with RG-2 grenade - 40mm]]
 
== Tsar сannon ==
It`s seen during the mussion inside Kremlin in the "Stalin Subway". This is the real gun, produced by Andrei Chohov in 1586. It has the highest calibre among cannons - 120 cm. Contrary to the many hypotheses, the carriage and rounding shot near it is actually fake - the carriage were produced only in the 1835, and rounding shots are actually hollow. This gun had to be fire a charge of small stones, but this gun was never fired and now it`s only monument. This is unusuable weapon.
[[File:Tsar cannon.JPG|thumb|450px|none|Tsar cannon as it standing now - 120 cm.]]
[[File:SS Tsar cannon.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tsar cannon in the game from the almost the same foreshortening as a picture higher. Note on the slighly crooked pose of it on the plinthand and lacking the safing chain around the gun. This shot was produced in no-clipping mode, because script don`t allow the player to be nearer to the monument.]]

Latest revision as of 14:28, 29 November 2023

FORMAT

Please adjust the page to the appropriate formats. FORMAT. Sample page.: Call of Duty: World at War, Vietcong 2.--Emto (talk) 12:04, 9 July 2014 (EDT)

  • The format of WHAT? The info box will be placed then. --STEN (talk) 20:25, 9 July 2014 (EDT)
The IMFDB Page Templates page exists for this reason. --Funkychinaman (talk) 21:54, 9 July 2014 (EDT)
  • It seems, now the content for this page is more important. Empty page with right box is worse then full page without it. When I`ll complete this page, I`ll, o' cource, place it. Now I`m finding all eligible weapons and shooting it in the appropriate pose. --STEN (talk) 00:25, 10 July 2014 (EDT)
  • I was in the long travelling from Tomsk to Baikal. Now I returned for the work on this page.


AK-74 variant WTF

AK-74 got into serial production well - only in mid 1970s. But that's only half of the problem. The other half of the problem is that the weapon itself make NO appearance in the game and the only "evidence" presented is a very blurry picture that only depict the handguard of an AK-type rifle. That's making any attemp of identifying the rifle neary impossible.
As such, I remove this section. --RussianTrooper (talk) 11:50, 12 March 2015 (EDT)

AK-47

I also want to add, that the AK-47 used in the game, is the 1953 final production model aka "Type III", which makes it anachronism for the first game (and for the second game, too, because it is very unlikely that the 1953 model immediately entered into mass use in a 1953 year). Historically, the best would be a Type I or Type II. --Slon95 (talk) 14:33, 2 February 2016 (EST)

I might add that if I get around to updating the page's text. Anytime I tend to do it, it gets undone by the page creator. Besides that, are we sure that's a SVT-38? It looks more like a standard SVT-40 to me. And it'd make more sense for it to be a SVT-40 rather than the older, less produced and more hated SVT-38. --PaperCake 16:11, 2 February 2016 (EST)
Hmm, you're right. It's really much more like the SVT-40. It probably bug of the developers with gun's name, as well as in the game STEN Mk.V incorrectly called as "STEN Mk.II". Thanks! --Slon95 (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2016 (EST)

Trivia

I don't see any reason why the above Tsar cannon and AK-74 shouldn't be on the main page. Spartan198 (talk) 09:39, 13 August 2019 (EDT)

Agreed, honestly. If anyone wants to put them in, I certainly wouldn't object. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 13:34, 13 August 2019 (EDT)