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(New page: I think that the revolver that McClane uses at the end is definitely not a Centennial Airweight. You can clearly see the external hammer. Centennial Airweights have internal hammers.)
 
 
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=Discussion=
I think that the revolver that McClane uses at the end is definitely not a Centennial Airweight. You can clearly see the external hammer. Centennial Airweights have internal hammers.
I think that the revolver that McClane uses at the end is definitely not a Centennial Airweight. You can clearly see the external hammer. Centennial Airweights have internal hammers.
== CAR-15 ==
I'm no expert, but the "M16 Variant" looks around the length of a CAR-15. Can anybody tell if this is true?
== Safety Catch ==
There's a few things bothering me with the Mp5k's safety catch.
One, The Terrorist lets off a burst of ammo before being sliced in half.
Two, When Simon flicks the safety off after taking it from Zeus, It sounds like he racks the bolt back and forth.
Agreed about point two. I think the director/whoever was in charge of that believed it would be easier for the non gun-loving audience to recognize him doing something. Instead of just flicking it, they probably wanted something louder.
== sniper scope ==
to add some info...
the scope is actually a spotting scope (and not a riflescope) of either SCT (Schmidt-Cassegrain Telescope) or MCT (Maksutov-Cassegrain Telescope) type.
the dead give-away is the black circle in the center of the objective (blue looking) lens that you see, as well as the large diameter of the scope - much larger than a riflescope diameter.
If this were a MCT then the black circle would be more reflective (like the blue reflection you see) since it would also be a lens. Since there does not seem to be a reflection, nor does it seem to allow light to pass through, my guess is that the black circle is the mount for the correcting plate, thus making this scope a SCT.
SCT and MCT spotting scopes are made commercially by such companies as Vixen, Orion, Celestron, and Meade. The size (diameter) varies, ranging from 50mm up to 120mm and beyond. My guess is that this is a 4 inch diameter scope with a straight eyepiece.
If you magnify the images and then change the contrast, you can see a reflection in the glass window of the door right next to him. This allows you to see more detail of the scope (additional knobs), but unfortunately you cannot see the name of the manufacturer of the scope.
Although it looks intimidating in the movie, using a spotting scope on a rifle is impractical. The assistant (Spotter) to the sniper is the one that uses a spotting scope, not the sniper himself.
== Alternate Ending gun ==
Anyone saw the alternate version of the movie ending? Where instead of the showdown in Canada with the choppers, McClane tracks down Simon Gruber to a Hungarian restaurant. Can anyone identify the pistol what McLane uses to hold Simon at gunpoint?
It looked like a Heckler & Koch P9S to me --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 21:27, 31 January 2011 (UTC).
== Model 36 or 60 ==
Is there any way to tell the difference between a nickel S&W Model 36 and a stainless Model 60? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:59, 20 October 2011 (CDT)
==WOW==
Can [[Bruce Willis]] please teach me how to hide a big ole' 92FS under a button down shirt?!?!?!?!?!?! I did like how they didn't just make the gun invisible, Bruce Willis was actually wearing it.--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 17:28, 6 April 2012 (CDT)
That's a trick he was taught by Clint Eastwood, who was able to hide a Smith & Wesson Mod. 29 with a 6 1/2" barrel under these tight 70ies jackets.
--[[User:Lastgunslinger|Lastgunslinger]] 04:45, 11 April 2012 (CDT)
Yeah....lol--[[User:Yo dawg 111|Yo dawg 111]] 10:19, 11 April 2012 (CDT)
== Model 36 at the end ==
The cartridges in McClane's hand look too short for .38 Spl.  Could the gun possibly be a .38 S&W?
:I am not aware of the Model 36 being offered in .38 S&W. .38 Short Colt will fit in a .38 Special, though. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 19:29, 30 October 2016 (EDT)
==MP5K==
The H&K Zeus/Jackson and Simon/Irons wield appears to have a metal lower and no paddle release in both the screencaps and the promo shot, so wouldn't these be SP89 mockups as we've seen elsewhere? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 00:25, 3 February 2015 (EST)
:Looks like it. Nice catch. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 06:54, 3 February 2015 (EST)

Latest revision as of 23:29, 30 October 2016


Discussion

I think that the revolver that McClane uses at the end is definitely not a Centennial Airweight. You can clearly see the external hammer. Centennial Airweights have internal hammers.

CAR-15

I'm no expert, but the "M16 Variant" looks around the length of a CAR-15. Can anybody tell if this is true?

Safety Catch

There's a few things bothering me with the Mp5k's safety catch.

One, The Terrorist lets off a burst of ammo before being sliced in half.

Two, When Simon flicks the safety off after taking it from Zeus, It sounds like he racks the bolt back and forth.

Agreed about point two. I think the director/whoever was in charge of that believed it would be easier for the non gun-loving audience to recognize him doing something. Instead of just flicking it, they probably wanted something louder.

sniper scope

to add some info...

the scope is actually a spotting scope (and not a riflescope) of either SCT (Schmidt-Cassegrain Telescope) or MCT (Maksutov-Cassegrain Telescope) type.

the dead give-away is the black circle in the center of the objective (blue looking) lens that you see, as well as the large diameter of the scope - much larger than a riflescope diameter.

If this were a MCT then the black circle would be more reflective (like the blue reflection you see) since it would also be a lens. Since there does not seem to be a reflection, nor does it seem to allow light to pass through, my guess is that the black circle is the mount for the correcting plate, thus making this scope a SCT.

SCT and MCT spotting scopes are made commercially by such companies as Vixen, Orion, Celestron, and Meade. The size (diameter) varies, ranging from 50mm up to 120mm and beyond. My guess is that this is a 4 inch diameter scope with a straight eyepiece.

If you magnify the images and then change the contrast, you can see a reflection in the glass window of the door right next to him. This allows you to see more detail of the scope (additional knobs), but unfortunately you cannot see the name of the manufacturer of the scope.

Although it looks intimidating in the movie, using a spotting scope on a rifle is impractical. The assistant (Spotter) to the sniper is the one that uses a spotting scope, not the sniper himself.


Alternate Ending gun

Anyone saw the alternate version of the movie ending? Where instead of the showdown in Canada with the choppers, McClane tracks down Simon Gruber to a Hungarian restaurant. Can anyone identify the pistol what McLane uses to hold Simon at gunpoint?

It looked like a Heckler & Koch P9S to me --Taurus96 21:27, 31 January 2011 (UTC).

Model 36 or 60

Is there any way to tell the difference between a nickel S&W Model 36 and a stainless Model 60? --Funkychinaman 20:59, 20 October 2011 (CDT)

WOW

Can Bruce Willis please teach me how to hide a big ole' 92FS under a button down shirt?!?!?!?!?!?! I did like how they didn't just make the gun invisible, Bruce Willis was actually wearing it.--Yo dawg 111 17:28, 6 April 2012 (CDT)

That's a trick he was taught by Clint Eastwood, who was able to hide a Smith & Wesson Mod. 29 with a 6 1/2" barrel under these tight 70ies jackets. --Lastgunslinger 04:45, 11 April 2012 (CDT)

Yeah....lol--Yo dawg 111 10:19, 11 April 2012 (CDT)

Model 36 at the end

The cartridges in McClane's hand look too short for .38 Spl. Could the gun possibly be a .38 S&W?

I am not aware of the Model 36 being offered in .38 S&W. .38 Short Colt will fit in a .38 Special, though. --Maxman (talk) 19:29, 30 October 2016 (EDT)

MP5K

The H&K Zeus/Jackson and Simon/Irons wield appears to have a metal lower and no paddle release in both the screencaps and the promo shot, so wouldn't these be SP89 mockups as we've seen elsewhere? StanTheMan (talk) 00:25, 3 February 2015 (EST)

Looks like it. Nice catch. --Funkychinaman (talk) 06:54, 3 February 2015 (EST)