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What was the gun used to kill the man in the car before the famous line "Leave the gun, take the conollis." ??? I haven't seen this movie in a while so I can't remember. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | What was the gun used to kill the man in the car before the famous line "Leave the gun, take the conollis." ??? I haven't seen this movie in a while so I can't remember. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | ||
That gun is shown at such a long distance, its impossible to tell, but it is some kind of silenced automatic, possibly a M1911. [[User:jackbel]] | |||
:I don't own this movie, but I remember when they are walking down the road in Italy, a US Army jeep rolls by and one of the soldiers has a Thompson with a stick magazine. Not sure if it was an M1 or an M1921/28, but someone should check it out. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | |||
== Firearms ID == | |||
This site has the guns of Sonny, Fredo, and Luca pictured on page 12. [https://guernseys.com/auctions/pugliese/prohibitedlots.pdf] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:31, 30 September 2012 (EDT) | |||
== Al Neri's revolver == | |||
Due to the shape of the grips, the revolver looks more like [[Smith & Wesson Victory Model]] than Model 10. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 10:30, 24 August 2013 (EDT) | |||
:That's right.Plus,that I don't remember any S&W Model 10 grips with that unique Victory Model brown colour--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 16:22, 6 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
== S&W M36 == | |||
Hello,there! I will go straight to the subject:I think that the S&W 36 is pretty anarchnostically. I mean,that,when Don Corleone is shot,is 1947. But, the first 36's were developed only at the begging of the '50's,right?--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 18:23, 23 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:The Chief's Special (later the numerical designator Model 36 was added in 1957) was introduced in 1949. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 19:18, 19 May 2018 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:Gf-sw10snub.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Clemenza hands the snubnose to Michael. Clemenza mentioned that he put tape on the grip and the trigger and that he left it noisy to scare any bystanders away]] | |||
:Take a look at the grips.They're pretty big and rectangiular compared to a M36.Plus they got that () shape cut on the top(like the Model 29) wich indicates a big S&W revolver.--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 16:53, 6 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Grips are modular, they could've put bigger grips on a S&W 36. Do you see five shots in the cylinder or six? That would be the deciding factor. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:01, 6 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
::I think they're 5.Confirms my idea that it's an anarcnostical revolver.By the way,I don't really think that those big grips would be needed on such a small revolver in real life.I mean,the short barrel revolvers have low recoil,while the long barrels give big recoil.--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 17:30, 6 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Also,Clemenza mentions that it is"as cold as they bought it".What is the conection between the temperature and the revolver itself?--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 17:34, 6 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::S&W made special target grips for both the square and round butt J frame revolvers which gave them a grip a similar size to a square butt K/L frame gun. To me it looks like a 5 shot so I would say that it is a M36. Also, it has the square cylinder release latch which I think makes it a pre '66 model. As for why you would have grips like this on a revolver of this size, bear in mind that a smaller frame revolver with a shorter barrel will in fact have ''more'' recoil than a revolver firing the same round with a heavier frame and longer barrel due to the fact that it has much less mass to soak up the recoil. It would be a lot more comfortable to use with these grips (as well as likely being more accurate), so if you don't need it to be ultra concealable there is nothing wrong with them. Lastly, the word you are looking for is "anachronistic" not "anarchnostically", which it is but only by a few years which in the scale of movies really isn't that egregious. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:05, 6 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::The 'as cold as they come' comment has absolutely nothing to do with temperature. The entire quote is "It's as cold as they come...impossible to trace." basically, means that the weapon cannot be linked to anyone in the Corleone family...the serial numbers were likely filed off which, in the era the movie is set in were impossible to recover. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 19:29, 6 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
[[File:Model36 C.jpg|thumb|none|350px]] | |||
J frame target grips on a Model 36. Similar to what is shown in the movie. S&W made the J frame (small frame) target grips in the Seventies and Eighties. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 15:23, 14 October 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Thank you a lot!😀😅😀😅😀😅😅😊😆😉 | |||
== Bolt Action Rifles == | |||
[[Image:Gf-rifles.jpg|thumb|none|650px|]] | |||
:: Winchester Model 70's?--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 12:58, 12 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::I don't think its possible to make an ID with just that image. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:54, 12 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::The rifle on the right looks like a 1960's Remington 700. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 13:46, 14 January 2019 (EST) | |||
:::::Strange as it may be I think the rifle in the foreground might be a Steyr Mannlicher Model L, it has the rear sight on the barrel, that cut out ahead of the trigger guard in the stock and while I can't see the bolt that well it does seem quite compact, also the trigger guard itself looks to be large enough for the double set triggers of the Mannlicher and doesn't look particularly right for anything else I can think of. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 14:02, 14 January 2019 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:31, 11 July 2023
What was the gun used to kill the man in the car before the famous line "Leave the gun, take the conollis." ??? I haven't seen this movie in a while so I can't remember. - Gunmaster45
That gun is shown at such a long distance, its impossible to tell, but it is some kind of silenced automatic, possibly a M1911. User:jackbel
- I don't own this movie, but I remember when they are walking down the road in Italy, a US Army jeep rolls by and one of the soldiers has a Thompson with a stick magazine. Not sure if it was an M1 or an M1921/28, but someone should check it out. - Gunmaster45
Firearms ID
This site has the guns of Sonny, Fredo, and Luca pictured on page 12. [1] --SmithandWesson36 12:31, 30 September 2012 (EDT)
Al Neri's revolver
Due to the shape of the grips, the revolver looks more like Smith & Wesson Victory Model than Model 10. Greg-Z (talk) 10:30, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
- That's right.Plus,that I don't remember any S&W Model 10 grips with that unique Victory Model brown colour--VLAD M (talk) 16:22, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
S&W M36
Hello,there! I will go straight to the subject:I think that the S&W 36 is pretty anarchnostically. I mean,that,when Don Corleone is shot,is 1947. But, the first 36's were developed only at the begging of the '50's,right?--VLAD M (talk) 18:23, 23 August 2015 (EDT)
- The Chief's Special (later the numerical designator Model 36 was added in 1957) was introduced in 1949. --Jcordell (talk) 19:18, 19 May 2018 (EDT)
- Take a look at the grips.They're pretty big and rectangiular compared to a M36.Plus they got that () shape cut on the top(like the Model 29) wich indicates a big S&W revolver.--VLAD M (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
- Grips are modular, they could've put bigger grips on a S&W 36. Do you see five shots in the cylinder or six? That would be the deciding factor. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:01, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
- I think they're 5.Confirms my idea that it's an anarcnostical revolver.By the way,I don't really think that those big grips would be needed on such a small revolver in real life.I mean,the short barrel revolvers have low recoil,while the long barrels give big recoil.--VLAD M (talk) 17:30, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
- Also,Clemenza mentions that it is"as cold as they bought it".What is the conection between the temperature and the revolver itself?--VLAD M (talk) 17:34, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
- S&W made special target grips for both the square and round butt J frame revolvers which gave them a grip a similar size to a square butt K/L frame gun. To me it looks like a 5 shot so I would say that it is a M36. Also, it has the square cylinder release latch which I think makes it a pre '66 model. As for why you would have grips like this on a revolver of this size, bear in mind that a smaller frame revolver with a shorter barrel will in fact have more recoil than a revolver firing the same round with a heavier frame and longer barrel due to the fact that it has much less mass to soak up the recoil. It would be a lot more comfortable to use with these grips (as well as likely being more accurate), so if you don't need it to be ultra concealable there is nothing wrong with them. Lastly, the word you are looking for is "anachronistic" not "anarchnostically", which it is but only by a few years which in the scale of movies really isn't that egregious. --commando552 (talk) 19:05, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
- The 'as cold as they come' comment has absolutely nothing to do with temperature. The entire quote is "It's as cold as they come...impossible to trace." basically, means that the weapon cannot be linked to anyone in the Corleone family...the serial numbers were likely filed off which, in the era the movie is set in were impossible to recover. --Charon68 (talk) 19:29, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
- S&W made special target grips for both the square and round butt J frame revolvers which gave them a grip a similar size to a square butt K/L frame gun. To me it looks like a 5 shot so I would say that it is a M36. Also, it has the square cylinder release latch which I think makes it a pre '66 model. As for why you would have grips like this on a revolver of this size, bear in mind that a smaller frame revolver with a shorter barrel will in fact have more recoil than a revolver firing the same round with a heavier frame and longer barrel due to the fact that it has much less mass to soak up the recoil. It would be a lot more comfortable to use with these grips (as well as likely being more accurate), so if you don't need it to be ultra concealable there is nothing wrong with them. Lastly, the word you are looking for is "anachronistic" not "anarchnostically", which it is but only by a few years which in the scale of movies really isn't that egregious. --commando552 (talk) 19:05, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
J frame target grips on a Model 36. Similar to what is shown in the movie. S&W made the J frame (small frame) target grips in the Seventies and Eighties. --Jcordell (talk) 15:23, 14 October 2020 (EDT)
- Thank you a lot!😀😅😀😅😀😅😅😊😆😉
Bolt Action Rifles
- Winchester Model 70's?--VLAD M (talk) 12:58, 12 September 2015 (EDT)
- I don't think its possible to make an ID with just that image. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:54, 12 September 2015 (EDT)
- The rifle on the right looks like a 1960's Remington 700. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 13:46, 14 January 2019 (EST)
- Strange as it may be I think the rifle in the foreground might be a Steyr Mannlicher Model L, it has the rear sight on the barrel, that cut out ahead of the trigger guard in the stock and while I can't see the bolt that well it does seem quite compact, also the trigger guard itself looks to be large enough for the double set triggers of the Mannlicher and doesn't look particularly right for anything else I can think of. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 14:02, 14 January 2019 (EST)
- The rifle on the right looks like a 1960's Remington 700. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 13:46, 14 January 2019 (EST)
- I don't think its possible to make an ID with just that image. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:54, 12 September 2015 (EDT)
- Winchester Model 70's?--VLAD M (talk) 12:58, 12 September 2015 (EDT)