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Is it just me or does it seem like this is the first appearance of the full sized version of the P30? --[[User:Bauer2121|Bauer2121]] ([[User talk:Bauer2121|talk]]) 14:37, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | Is it just me or does it seem like this is the first appearance of the full sized version of the P30? --[[User:Bauer2121|Bauer2121]] ([[User talk:Bauer2121|talk]]) 14:37, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
:Appearently, this is the first film to feature the H&K P30L. Also, I am wondering what kind of grip was Keanu using ? Because it looked like a "thumbs up" grip to me. | |||
-- [[User:Kliwher|Kliwher]] 10:35, 28 April 2016 | |||
==Safehouse Snipers== | ==Safehouse Snipers== | ||
What kind of sniper rifles were used by the guards at the Safe House? They looked very familiar, sort of like an AR-15 style rifle. --[[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]] ([[User talk:Swordfish941|talk]]) 17:51, 15 November 2014 (EST) | What kind of sniper rifles were used by the guards at the Safe House? They looked very familiar, sort of like an AR-15 style rifle. --[[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]] ([[User talk:Swordfish941|talk]]) 17:51, 15 November 2014 (EST) | ||
I could've sworn that Keanu uses a Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout that he gets from one of them but I could be wrong.--[[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]] ([[User talk:John Ryder|talk]]) 18:42, 15 November 2014 (EST) | |||
:I took a look at the gun, and that's exactly what it is. And I also recognized that some of Viggo's men had a PDW of some sort in the finally. --[[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]] ([[User talk:Swordfish941|talk]]) 19:12, 15 November 2014 (EST) | |||
Not PDW's I think, looked like more like glocks in Roni whatchamacallits --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:45, 14 January 2015 (EST) | |||
== Real weapons? == | |||
Just watched the movie. Nice action. However, based on proximity of shots and on this spot, all (or most part) of the weapons from this movie are airsoft. | |||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-KA1CNz93M | |||
:Although airsoft are sometimes used for non-firing scenes in movies, I doubt that "all" or even "most" of the guns in this movie are airsoft. Nobody makes an airsoft version of the P30L, for example (Umarex makes air replicas of the standard P30 with licensed trademarks, but they do not produce the long-barreled P30L, the particular variant that Keanu uses in this movie). Many of the other guns in the movie, such as the Kel-Tec KSG and Coharie Arms CA-415, also do not have airsoft equivalents at this time. | |||
:Even though GBB pistols have been used for actors firing at other actors at close range, there are also ways to make real guns perform the same function. For example, Cinema Weaponry installed an electronic recoil system into a real Glock 19 for the scene in ''[[Terminator 3]]'' where Arnie is shot by Claire Danes from less than a foot away. Something similar was used in the "dodge this" scene of ''[[The Matrix]]'' when Carrie Anne-Moss shoots the Agent in the head with her Beretta 84F. Given the budget for ''[[John Wick]]'', I imagine that the armorers could have developed similar mechanisms. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 11:20, 30 November 2014 (EST) | |||
:Thank you for the explanation, I put it wrong, blaming that all weapons were airsoft. It's clearly seen in the video, that guns actually do the reload cycle. It's definitely easier to use recoil mechanisms for the armorers. | |||
== Redbox poster == | |||
More of a curiosity than anything else, but I found [http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/pokedalt/media/CAM05573_zpsizlelf00.jpg.html?filters%5Buser%5D=142717407&filters%5Brecent%5D=1&filters%5BpublicOnly%5D=1&sort=1&o=0 this] poster on a Redbox near my house. After browsing around, it looks to be [http://www.evike.com/products/39376/ this] particular airsoft pistol. Figured it was mildly noteworthy. --[[User:Pokedalt|Pokedalt]] ([[User talk:Pokedalt|talk]]) 19:23, 6 March 2015 (EST) | |||
[[File:JohnWAlt.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | |||
== Savage Rifle == | |||
The Savage rifle used by the safe house guard is a 110 BA not a 10 BA. The 10 BA has an oversize ball bolt handle and the 110 BA has the cylindrical tactical handle. The 110 BA is the long action version of the 10 BA and is available in .300 WIN MAG or .338 Lapua Magnum. The 10 BA magazine also protrudes farther below the trigger guard than the 110 BA magazine. | |||
== Unidentified Rifle == | |||
The roof patrolling sniper at the safehouse is carrying a rifle I can't identify clearly. At first the silhouette convinced me it was a SCAR-H Long Barrel (hell, I even wrote up an entry), but then I realized that the "top rail" was actually a scope and the "irons" were just flipped up scope caps. Now I think it's some sort of AR-10, but I can't tell. The images to work with are pretty few all are from a distance, so I don't know if this one is even possible. | |||
[[Image:John_Wick_SCAR-H_Sillhoutte.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Scope caps looks like irons, silhouette can fool you into thinking its a SCAR.]] | |||
[[Image:John_Wick_SCAR-H_Profile.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The rifle held against the body as John eliminates the sniper. Note the straight 20 round magazine, you really have to zoom and pay attention to the lines. Contrast alteration helps.]] | |||
Pardon the mis-labeled pics. I was really convinced for a minute there. | |||
Latest revision as of 11:50, 30 March 2023
Is it just me or does it seem like this is the first appearance of the full sized version of the P30? --Bauer2121 (talk) 14:37, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
- Appearently, this is the first film to feature the H&K P30L. Also, I am wondering what kind of grip was Keanu using ? Because it looked like a "thumbs up" grip to me.
-- Kliwher 10:35, 28 April 2016
Safehouse Snipers
What kind of sniper rifles were used by the guards at the Safe House? They looked very familiar, sort of like an AR-15 style rifle. --Swordfish941 (talk) 17:51, 15 November 2014 (EST)
I could've sworn that Keanu uses a Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout that he gets from one of them but I could be wrong.--John Ryder (talk) 18:42, 15 November 2014 (EST)
- I took a look at the gun, and that's exactly what it is. And I also recognized that some of Viggo's men had a PDW of some sort in the finally. --Swordfish941 (talk) 19:12, 15 November 2014 (EST)
Not PDW's I think, looked like more like glocks in Roni whatchamacallits --Iceman (talk) 09:45, 14 January 2015 (EST)
Real weapons?
Just watched the movie. Nice action. However, based on proximity of shots and on this spot, all (or most part) of the weapons from this movie are airsoft. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-KA1CNz93M
- Although airsoft are sometimes used for non-firing scenes in movies, I doubt that "all" or even "most" of the guns in this movie are airsoft. Nobody makes an airsoft version of the P30L, for example (Umarex makes air replicas of the standard P30 with licensed trademarks, but they do not produce the long-barreled P30L, the particular variant that Keanu uses in this movie). Many of the other guns in the movie, such as the Kel-Tec KSG and Coharie Arms CA-415, also do not have airsoft equivalents at this time.
- Even though GBB pistols have been used for actors firing at other actors at close range, there are also ways to make real guns perform the same function. For example, Cinema Weaponry installed an electronic recoil system into a real Glock 19 for the scene in Terminator 3 where Arnie is shot by Claire Danes from less than a foot away. Something similar was used in the "dodge this" scene of The Matrix when Carrie Anne-Moss shoots the Agent in the head with her Beretta 84F. Given the budget for John Wick, I imagine that the armorers could have developed similar mechanisms. -MT2008 (talk) 11:20, 30 November 2014 (EST)
- Thank you for the explanation, I put it wrong, blaming that all weapons were airsoft. It's clearly seen in the video, that guns actually do the reload cycle. It's definitely easier to use recoil mechanisms for the armorers.
Redbox poster
More of a curiosity than anything else, but I found this poster on a Redbox near my house. After browsing around, it looks to be this particular airsoft pistol. Figured it was mildly noteworthy. --Pokedalt (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2015 (EST)
Savage Rifle
The Savage rifle used by the safe house guard is a 110 BA not a 10 BA. The 10 BA has an oversize ball bolt handle and the 110 BA has the cylindrical tactical handle. The 110 BA is the long action version of the 10 BA and is available in .300 WIN MAG or .338 Lapua Magnum. The 10 BA magazine also protrudes farther below the trigger guard than the 110 BA magazine.
Unidentified Rifle
The roof patrolling sniper at the safehouse is carrying a rifle I can't identify clearly. At first the silhouette convinced me it was a SCAR-H Long Barrel (hell, I even wrote up an entry), but then I realized that the "top rail" was actually a scope and the "irons" were just flipped up scope caps. Now I think it's some sort of AR-10, but I can't tell. The images to work with are pretty few all are from a distance, so I don't know if this one is even possible.
Pardon the mis-labeled pics. I was really convinced for a minute there.