Talk:Person of Interest - Season 4: Difference between revisions
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In "Karma" (S4E17), Shane Edwards (Patrick Kennedy) carries what looks like to be after close examination a P220 Nickel. This originally was marked as unknown because of the lack of a close-up on the weapon. However, after extensive research and studying on the stills throughout the scene, it does resemble best to a P220.
:I think it is a [[Star Firestar]]:[[File:IMFDB P00274 Sopranos Christopher Firestar 9mm.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:36, 10 July 2015 (EDT)
==Please help ID (2015 Jan 23)==
Please help ID this rifle. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 13:44, 23 January 2015 (EST)
[[File:POIS4E10 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:This gun is from The Specialists Ltd., and is listed on their site [http://www.thespecialistsltd.com/ar-10 here]. They list it as an Armalite AR-10 but it clearly isn't. Rather, it is a DPMS of some sort, probably a [[DPMS Panther LRT SASS]]. In fact, I believe it is the exact same gun pictured on that page just fitted with different accessories (the wear pattern on the brass deflector is identical). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:18, 23 January 2015 (EST)
== Please help ID (New 102914)==
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: Cobray comes to mind. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:04, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
: Cobray comes to mind. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:04, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
::The top two look like a Ruger P=series. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 07:46, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
::The top two look like a Ruger P=series. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 07:46, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
:::Second pic is, but the first one is a 2nd gen S&W auto of some sort. It looks to have a short barrel so my guess would be a [[Smith & Wesson 469]]. Our stock image has an ambi safety, but I believe that earlier versions had the left side only safety which appears to be the gun used here ([http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_c3jbujQFElU/THFNZwdivlI/AAAAAAAAAfM/oVpAh6FpBKg/s1600/Smith+%26+Wesson+Model+469.jpg example]). To me the SMG looks more like a MAC-11 rather than a Cobray (receiver isn't long enough and the cocking handle is a tall notched one rather than the flat disc of the Cobray), but am pretty sure it is a scratch built mock up as the style of the rear sight is wrong for any MAC or clone, the barrel looks weird, the receiver looks more like a solid block than a separate upper and lower, and the ejection port is too close to the bottom of the receiver. As for the last pistol, I think it is a [[Heckler & Koch P30]] (might also be a [[P2000]], but from the apparently sloped front of the frame I am more inclined to say a P30). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:40, 30 October 2014 (EDT)Pic#3 is a Para-Ordinance Model 85 paintball gun --[[User:Fazerix|fazerix]] ([[User talk:Fazerix|talk]]) 5:20, 5 Novemberber 2014 (EDT)--
Did anyone notice that there is no shell ejection when the charcters fire their guns ? Mags seems to be sometimes empty after only a few rounds, the slide doesn't lock back but the gun clicks empty. When Reese fires his P226, even if he cocks the hammer before, the gun seems to be DAO, like if the actor was dry firing the gun. --[[User:Glock20 10mm|Glock20 10mm]] ([[User talk:Glock20 10mm|talk]]) 05:58, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
Did anyone notice that there is no shell ejection when the charcters fire their guns ? Mags seems to be sometimes empty after only a few rounds, the slide doesn't lock back but the gun clicks empty. When Reese fires his P226, even if he cocks the hammer before, the gun seems to be DAO, like if the actor was dry firing the gun. --[[User:Glock20 10mm|Glock20 10mm]] ([[User talk:Glock20 10mm|talk]]) 05:58, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
It seems more and more common that the actors are not actually firing blanks and the muzzle flashes added digitally. This is probably due to safety and budgetary reasons. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 13:47, 23 January 2015 (EST)
:I've noticed this as well, it used to happen fairy infrequently (being fired close to actors etc), but this season it seems to be the baseline , they don't even seem to have blowback airsoft or anything (what are they like $80?!?), just toy guns with muzzle flashes added in in post production, and not even added in well, they look like they where added in with Photoshop. I've seen YouTubers with better post production than this season. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 12:20, 26 March 2015 (GMT)
== XM109 ==
From the looks of it, the actual gun in the show is a 50 cal with a big fake plastic shell placed over the real magazine, you can see it's just a solid box and doesn't have a tapered front like the real one does. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:38, 22 May 2015 (EDT)
:I would assume that it is an M107 if for no other reason than the rarity of the XM109, but it does strike me as odd that this rifle seems to have the extra recoil reducing springs next to the barrel that the late model XM109s had, and it looks genuine rather than something slapped on the side of a vanilla M107 upper. If they wanted to make a mock up this is not really that important a part to add, in particular as it originally lacked this part anyway and it seems like it would be a hell of a lot of effort to do. I'm also not convinced that you could fit a .50 magazine inside what you think is a shell. The back edge of the normal mag comes straight down from the gun and the mag shown here has a significant curve, meaning that if the normal mag was inside it then the back corner would be sticking out. The barrel length and 3 chamber muzzle brake also match that of [http://i.imgur.com/kEKnD5x.jpg some of the XM109 prototypes]. I can't find a rifle that is an exact match though, as I think that by the time they went to the full length rail they had also gone to the [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Xm109_2.jpg 5 chamber cylindrical brake]. It still has that odd magazine though which doesn't match anything, it appears to be noticeably longer than the XM109 one so my guess is that it is either some esoteric experimental higher capacity magazine, or the whole magazine is a scratch built mock up to look like an XM109 one. In summary, the whole thing is kind of weird. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:44, 22 May 2015 (EDT)
::I suppose it could be a custom magazine, but I know there's a 5-rounder for the M95 and it looks to have the same profile as the one for the M82 series, so I guess it could be that. I'd think that would be easier than trying to source 25mm blanks. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 14:02, 22 May 2015 (EDT)
== Not a Type 56 in Ep. 1 ? ==
I just saw the first episode of the fourth season, and I believe that the AK's couple of thugs and Reese use in the first episode is not a Type 56, but an actual AK instead. I'm pretty sure I saw an open front sight, it's well visible when Reese is holding the weapon with one hand and almost pointing it at the camera. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 07:05, 7 January 2016 (EST)
In "Karma" (S4E17), Shane Edwards (Patrick Kennedy) carries what looks like to be after close examination a P220 Nickel. This originally was marked as unknown because of the lack of a close-up on the weapon. However, after extensive research and studying on the stills throughout the scene, it does resemble best to a P220.
This gun is from The Specialists Ltd., and is listed on their site here. They list it as an Armalite AR-10 but it clearly isn't. Rather, it is a DPMS of some sort, probably a DPMS Panther LRT SASS. In fact, I believe it is the exact same gun pictured on that page just fitted with different accessories (the wear pattern on the brass deflector is identical). --commando552 (talk) 17:18, 23 January 2015 (EST)
Please help ID (New 102914)
Please help ID these.--Ben41 (talk) 06:11, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
The submachine gun seems to be a MAC-10 mock up (no cocking handle). The last handgun seems to be a Walther P99 --Glock20 10mm (talk) 06:25, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
Cobray comes to mind. Ominae (talk) 07:04, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
The top two look like a Ruger P=series. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:46, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
Second pic is, but the first one is a 2nd gen S&W auto of some sort. It looks to have a short barrel so my guess would be a Smith & Wesson 469. Our stock image has an ambi safety, but I believe that earlier versions had the left side only safety which appears to be the gun used here (example). To me the SMG looks more like a MAC-11 rather than a Cobray (receiver isn't long enough and the cocking handle is a tall notched one rather than the flat disc of the Cobray), but am pretty sure it is a scratch built mock up as the style of the rear sight is wrong for any MAC or clone, the barrel looks weird, the receiver looks more like a solid block than a separate upper and lower, and the ejection port is too close to the bottom of the receiver. As for the last pistol, I think it is a Heckler & Koch P30 (might also be a P2000, but from the apparently sloped front of the frame I am more inclined to say a P30). --commando552 (talk) 10:40, 30 October 2014 (EDT)Pic#3 is a Para-Ordinance Model 85 paintball gun --fazerix (talk) 5:20, 5 Novemberber 2014 (EDT)--
It is a Walther P88 Compact. More precisely, I believe that it is an Umarex blank fire replica, as is every other appearance of a stainless finish P88 compat along with the stock image we use:Error creating thumbnail: File missingIt has several differences from a real one in terms of the hammer, slide markings and slide stop notch. Also, I cannot find a single picture of a real P88 Compact with a stainless finish, so I believe that if one turns up it is a safe bet that it is this replica. --commando552 (talk) 04:54, 9 October 2014 (EDT)
Blank firing ?
Did anyone notice that there is no shell ejection when the charcters fire their guns ? Mags seems to be sometimes empty after only a few rounds, the slide doesn't lock back but the gun clicks empty. When Reese fires his P226, even if he cocks the hammer before, the gun seems to be DAO, like if the actor was dry firing the gun. --Glock20 10mm (talk) 05:58, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
It seems more and more common that the actors are not actually firing blanks and the muzzle flashes added digitally. This is probably due to safety and budgetary reasons. --Ben41 (talk) 13:47, 23 January 2015 (EST)
I've noticed this as well, it used to happen fairy infrequently (being fired close to actors etc), but this season it seems to be the baseline , they don't even seem to have blowback airsoft or anything (what are they like $80?!?), just toy guns with muzzle flashes added in in post production, and not even added in well, they look like they where added in with Photoshop. I've seen YouTubers with better post production than this season. --RedRobinAlpha (talk) 12:20, 26 March 2015 (GMT)
XM109
From the looks of it, the actual gun in the show is a 50 cal with a big fake plastic shell placed over the real magazine, you can see it's just a solid box and doesn't have a tapered front like the real one does. Evil Tim (talk) 03:38, 22 May 2015 (EDT)
I would assume that it is an M107 if for no other reason than the rarity of the XM109, but it does strike me as odd that this rifle seems to have the extra recoil reducing springs next to the barrel that the late model XM109s had, and it looks genuine rather than something slapped on the side of a vanilla M107 upper. If they wanted to make a mock up this is not really that important a part to add, in particular as it originally lacked this part anyway and it seems like it would be a hell of a lot of effort to do. I'm also not convinced that you could fit a .50 magazine inside what you think is a shell. The back edge of the normal mag comes straight down from the gun and the mag shown here has a significant curve, meaning that if the normal mag was inside it then the back corner would be sticking out. The barrel length and 3 chamber muzzle brake also match that of some of the XM109 prototypes. I can't find a rifle that is an exact match though, as I think that by the time they went to the full length rail they had also gone to the 5 chamber cylindrical brake. It still has that odd magazine though which doesn't match anything, it appears to be noticeably longer than the XM109 one so my guess is that it is either some esoteric experimental higher capacity magazine, or the whole magazine is a scratch built mock up to look like an XM109 one. In summary, the whole thing is kind of weird. --commando552 (talk) 13:44, 22 May 2015 (EDT)
I suppose it could be a custom magazine, but I know there's a 5-rounder for the M95 and it looks to have the same profile as the one for the M82 series, so I guess it could be that. I'd think that would be easier than trying to source 25mm blanks. Evil Tim (talk) 14:02, 22 May 2015 (EDT)
Not a Type 56 in Ep. 1 ?
I just saw the first episode of the fourth season, and I believe that the AK's couple of thugs and Reese use in the first episode is not a Type 56, but an actual AK instead. I'm pretty sure I saw an open front sight, it's well visible when Reese is holding the weapon with one hand and almost pointing it at the camera. --CnC Fin (talk) 07:05, 7 January 2016 (EST)
