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== Beretta 84FS ==
== Beretta 84FS ==


I am not too convinced about the Beretta 84FS. Enlarging the one image makes me think more of some variant of the [[Beretta 92 pistol series]], like the American made [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] (see below) that also has black controls - [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 11:40, 8 August 2014 (EDT)  
Are you sure about the Beretta 84FS? Enlarging the one image makes me think more of some variant of the [[Beretta 92 pistol series]], my guess would be the American made [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] (see below) due to the black controls - [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 11:40, 8 August 2014 (EDT)  


[[File:USAMade92FSInox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|American made Beretta 92FS Inox, note the black controls (slide release, thumb safety, safety switch, hammer, magazine release button, rear sight, trigger), magazine bottom plate, grip and Allen/hex grip screws distinguishing it from the Italian 92FS Inox - 9x19mm]]
[[File:USAMade92FSInox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|American made Beretta 92FS Inox, note the black controls (slide release, thumb safety, safety switch, hammer, magazine release button, rear sight, trigger), magazine bottom plate, grip and Allen/hex grip screws distinguishing it from the Italian 92FS Inox - 9x19mm]]
: Barrel's too short for a 92FS. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 15:50, 8 August 2014 (EDT)
::Thanks for adding additional pictures, I see your point. However, we are probably dealing with an optical illusion here. As far as I can see, there’s a few things that are just more consistent with the 92FS design as opposed to the 84FS (below from left to right): (1) barrel extending from slide, (2) step-down on the slide, (3) safety switch on the slide and (4) disassembly lever. - [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:28, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
[[File:Beretta 84-92v2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
It's probably this blank-firing pistol:
[[File:EKOL_Spec_Silver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|EKOL Grizzly Special 99 (Nickel) - 9mm Blank Fire Only]]
:Interesting point, seems we're getting somewhere. Still, my above 4 points (plus the front section of the slide between trigger guard and barrel) lead to the 92FS (or derivate). Anyway, let's just leave this and get on with our lifes :-), [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 06:08, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
:::Well, upon some more research, it looking more like a Beretta 92FS Compact Inox (but not the new M9A1 version with the rail) or the blank-firing EKOL Beretta V92.  I'm going to put it as a Beretta 92FS Compact Inox for now until I can find a good picture of EKOL V92.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 06:13, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
::::Hey Ben41, thanks for the persistence. This would perfectly explain the 92FS controls but the 84FS size. Take care, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 08:13, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
:::::I think it's a beretta 92 Centurion Inox [[User:Kliwher]]
==Please help ID==
[[File:NovemberM_116.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:NovemberM_122.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:NovemberM_115.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
I think it is CZ 75 SP-O1 SHADOW based on the sights, trigger, trigger guard, underbarrel rail, and the general shape of the gun.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 17:15, 8 August 2014 (EDT)
:From the trigger guard, I think it's just a regular CZ 75 SP-01. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:17, 8 August 2014 (EDT)
Are you sure, the rear sight looks far too large to be a regular SP-O1--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 17:39, 8 August 2014 (EDT)
:Nevermind, you're right. I was looking at the Phantom. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:02, 8 August 2014 (EDT)
Ahh, easy mistake to make, when I posted the Shadow I didn't even notice the standard SP-O1--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 18:31, 8 August 2014 (EDT)
::It kind of looks like there's a barrel bushing. If it is, then that's a CZ SP-01 ACCU Shadow--[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] ([[User talk:ThePotShot|talk]]) 04:08, 9 August 2014 (EDT)
== Walther P99 AS ==
Devereaux (Brosnan) also happens to use a [[Walther P99AS]] during the shootout in the hallway at the hotel which I think is a continuity error. But, it is quite clear in the promotional pictures he was carrying one when he was supposed to be armed with a different firearm - his CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW. Fedorov (Lazar Ristovski) also carries a P99AS in a flashback scene as a result of yet another continuity error when he's supposed to hold a Zastava CZ99 in his hand.
Posting a few examples here for those more expert in the field of firearms to review. --[[User:James-Bond-007|James-Bond-007]] ([[User talk:James-Bond-007|talk]]) 02:48, 29 June 2018 (EDT)
[[File:Brosnan-NovemberMan-P99AS.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:Brosnan-NovemberMan-P99AS-2.jpeg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:Brosnan-NovemberMan-P99AS-3.jpeg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:P99AS-NovemberMan-Ristovski.jpeg|thumb|none|600px]]

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Beretta 84FS

Are you sure about the Beretta 84FS? Enlarging the one image makes me think more of some variant of the Beretta 92 pistol series, my guess would be the American made Beretta 92FS Inox (see below) due to the black controls - PeeWee055 (talk) 11:40, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

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American made Beretta 92FS Inox, note the black controls (slide release, thumb safety, safety switch, hammer, magazine release button, rear sight, trigger), magazine bottom plate, grip and Allen/hex grip screws distinguishing it from the Italian 92FS Inox - 9x19mm
Barrel's too short for a 92FS. --Ben41 (talk) 15:50, 8 August 2014 (EDT)
Thanks for adding additional pictures, I see your point. However, we are probably dealing with an optical illusion here. As far as I can see, there’s a few things that are just more consistent with the 92FS design as opposed to the 84FS (below from left to right): (1) barrel extending from slide, (2) step-down on the slide, (3) safety switch on the slide and (4) disassembly lever. - PeeWee055 (talk) 04:28, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
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It's probably this blank-firing pistol:

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EKOL Grizzly Special 99 (Nickel) - 9mm Blank Fire Only
Interesting point, seems we're getting somewhere. Still, my above 4 points (plus the front section of the slide between trigger guard and barrel) lead to the 92FS (or derivate). Anyway, let's just leave this and get on with our lifes :-), PeeWee055 (talk) 06:08, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
Well, upon some more research, it looking more like a Beretta 92FS Compact Inox (but not the new M9A1 version with the rail) or the blank-firing EKOL Beretta V92. I'm going to put it as a Beretta 92FS Compact Inox for now until I can find a good picture of EKOL V92. --Ben41 (talk) 06:13, 13 August 2014 (EDT)


Hey Ben41, thanks for the persistence. This would perfectly explain the 92FS controls but the 84FS size. Take care, PeeWee055 (talk) 08:13, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
I think it's a beretta 92 Centurion Inox User:Kliwher

Please help ID

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I think it is CZ 75 SP-O1 SHADOW based on the sights, trigger, trigger guard, underbarrel rail, and the general shape of the gun.--One shot is all it takes. (talk) 17:15, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

From the trigger guard, I think it's just a regular CZ 75 SP-01. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:17, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

Are you sure, the rear sight looks far too large to be a regular SP-O1--One shot is all it takes. (talk) 17:39, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

Nevermind, you're right. I was looking at the Phantom. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:02, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

Ahh, easy mistake to make, when I posted the Shadow I didn't even notice the standard SP-O1--One shot is all it takes. (talk) 18:31, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

It kind of looks like there's a barrel bushing. If it is, then that's a CZ SP-01 ACCU Shadow--ThePotShot (talk) 04:08, 9 August 2014 (EDT)

Walther P99 AS

Devereaux (Brosnan) also happens to use a Walther P99AS during the shootout in the hallway at the hotel which I think is a continuity error. But, it is quite clear in the promotional pictures he was carrying one when he was supposed to be armed with a different firearm - his CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW. Fedorov (Lazar Ristovski) also carries a P99AS in a flashback scene as a result of yet another continuity error when he's supposed to hold a Zastava CZ99 in his hand.

Posting a few examples here for those more expert in the field of firearms to review. --James-Bond-007 (talk) 02:48, 29 June 2018 (EDT)

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