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= Additional Images = | |||
[[File:Denix Colt Navy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Denix Colt 1851 Navy non-firing replica]] | |||
[[File:Pietta Colt 1851 Navy Sheriffs Brass .jpg|thumb|none|350px|Pietta Colt 1851 Navy Sheriff's with brass frame - .44 caliber]] | |||
[[Image:Pietta 44 1851 Navy steel.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Pietta "Colt 1851 Navy" with case hardened steel frame - .44 caliber]] | |||
[[File:Colt-1851-Navy-Richards-Mason-Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Screen used Colt 1851 Navy with Richards-Mason conversion - .38 Long Colt. This was held and used by [[Christian Bale]] in ''[[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]]''.]] | |||
[[File:Uberti Navy 1851 Richards-Mason-Conversion 5-5inch.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti replica of Colt 1851 Navy with Richards-Mason conversion with 5.5" barrel - .38 Special]] | |||
[[File:Uberti Navy 1851 Richards-Mason-Conversion 4-3_4inch.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Uberti replica of Colt 1851 Navy with Richards-Mason conversion with 4 3/4" barrel - .38 Special]] | |||
[[Image:Thuer Conversion Colt 1851 Model Navy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1851 Navy with Thuer cartridge conversion - .36 Thuer]] | |||
[[File:Colt_1851_Navy_with_Nickel_Finish.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1851 Navy with Nickel Finish and Wooden grips - .36 Caliber]] | |||
= Discussion = | |||
The gun is listed twice for Clint Eastwood in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. He just used the cartridge conversion model (which hadn't been invented at the time)as did everyone else in the film. If I remember correctly Lee Van Cleef carried a Remington New Army. He had a cartridge belt on it but in the closeups of the final shootout at the graveyard you can see percussion caps on cylinder. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 11 May 2010 03:57 | The gun is listed twice for Clint Eastwood in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. He just used the cartridge conversion model (which hadn't been invented at the time)as did everyone else in the film. If I remember correctly Lee Van Cleef carried a Remington New Army. He had a cartridge belt on it but in the closeups of the final shootout at the graveyard you can see percussion caps on cylinder. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 11 May 2010 03:57 | ||
== Cartridge Conversions? == | == Cartridge Conversions? == | ||
Due to the popularity of Colt Revolver reproductions, this is very hard to find out just by searching randomly on the internet. I have been wondering what cartridges the original Colt 1851 Navy was converted to aside from .38 Short Colt. This very imfdb page says the Richards-Mason conversion existed in .38 Long Colt and that cartridge seems to be used in a lot of movies too. But the .38 | Due to the popularity of Colt Revolver reproductions, this is very hard to find out just by searching randomly on the internet. I have been wondering what cartridges the original Colt 1851 Navy was converted to aside from .38 Short Colt. This very imfdb page says the Richards-Mason conversion existed in .38 Long Colt and that cartridge seems to be used in a lot of movies too. But the .38 Long was mainly used in the Colt M1892 it seems, which seems a bit late to convert a Colt Navy. Was there .38 Long conversions of 1851 Navy's in the 19th century, or are those just modern reproductions? | ||
Additionally, was there ever any conversions to .38 S&W? And finally was there ever any .44 Caliber Conversions? | Additionally, was there ever any conversions to .38 S&W? And finally was there ever any .44 Caliber Conversions? | ||
Thanks in advance. [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 10:39, 23 February 2014 (EST) | Thanks in advance. [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 10:39, 23 February 2014 (EST) | ||
There were no conversions to .44 caliber. Only .44 cal. Percussion revolvers were converted to .44 cartridge revolvers. Back in the day the terms "Navy " and/or | |||
"Navy size " meant .36 cal. and "Army " meant .44, no matter what modern gunmakers come out with. Also a lot of "conversions " were actually originally made as cartridge guns. Hope this helps. | |||
Latest revision as of 03:24, 22 December 2023
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Discussion
The gun is listed twice for Clint Eastwood in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. He just used the cartridge conversion model (which hadn't been invented at the time)as did everyone else in the film. If I remember correctly Lee Van Cleef carried a Remington New Army. He had a cartridge belt on it but in the closeups of the final shootout at the graveyard you can see percussion caps on cylinder. Harleyguy 11 May 2010 03:57
Cartridge Conversions?
Due to the popularity of Colt Revolver reproductions, this is very hard to find out just by searching randomly on the internet. I have been wondering what cartridges the original Colt 1851 Navy was converted to aside from .38 Short Colt. This very imfdb page says the Richards-Mason conversion existed in .38 Long Colt and that cartridge seems to be used in a lot of movies too. But the .38 Long was mainly used in the Colt M1892 it seems, which seems a bit late to convert a Colt Navy. Was there .38 Long conversions of 1851 Navy's in the 19th century, or are those just modern reproductions?
Additionally, was there ever any conversions to .38 S&W? And finally was there ever any .44 Caliber Conversions?
Thanks in advance. Z008MJ (talk) 10:39, 23 February 2014 (EST)
There were no conversions to .44 caliber. Only .44 cal. Percussion revolvers were converted to .44 cartridge revolvers. Back in the day the terms "Navy " and/or "Navy size " meant .36 cal. and "Army " meant .44, no matter what modern gunmakers come out with. Also a lot of "conversions " were actually originally made as cartridge guns. Hope this helps.