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==Pistol ID== | |||
Please help ID this pistol. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:46, 26 September 2013 (EDT) | Please help ID this pistol. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:46, 26 September 2013 (EDT) | ||
[[File:NCISLAS5E01 14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Ascension" (S5E01).]] | [[File:NCISLAS5E01 14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Ascension" (S5E01).]] | ||
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After watching later episodes, does anyone else think that Deeks switched to the 910 permanently? --[[User:Mormonpowerranger521|Mormonpowerranger521]] 2:14, 19 December 2013 (MST) | After watching later episodes, does anyone else think that Deeks switched to the 910 permanently? --[[User:Mormonpowerranger521|Mormonpowerranger521]] 2:14, 19 December 2013 (MST) | ||
:It looks like it.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] ([[User talk:--JazzBlackBelt--|talk]]) 00:32, 20 December 2013 (EST) | :It looks like it.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] ([[User talk:--JazzBlackBelt--|talk]]) 00:32, 20 December 2013 (EST) | ||
::As far as I can tell, the only picture where the pistol is actually a 5944 is when it is in the case, all the other ones currently ID'd as this are 910s (most easily differentiated by the lack of the double stack step on the frame along with the left side slide safety). Can somebody who has seen this please fix this, I would but I have absolutely zero knowledge of this show so i would probably be wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:48, 31 March 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Beowulf in 5x12? == | == Beowulf in 5x12? == | ||
In Merry Evasion (5x12) the people tracking Lily use a large-calibre M4-style platform to take out a car. I'm not well enough up on Armalites to identify the rifle itself, but would I be correct in thinking the round is a .500 Beowulf or similar? I'll try to get some screengrabs to put up. [[User:Awmperry|Awmperry]] ([[User talk:Awmperry|talk]]) 10:36, 25 December 2013 (EST) | In Merry Evasion (5x12) the people tracking Lily use a large-calibre M4-style platform to take out a car. I'm not well enough up on Armalites to identify the rifle itself, but would I be correct in thinking the round is a .500 Beowulf or similar? I'll try to get some screengrabs to put up. [[User:Awmperry|Awmperry]] ([[User talk:Awmperry|talk]]) 10:36, 25 December 2013 (EST) | ||
:Screengrab as promised: [[User:Awmperry|Awmperry]] ([[User talk:Awmperry|talk]]) 11:07, 25 December 2013 (EST) | |||
[[File:NCISLA_-_5x12_-_Beowulf_2.jpg|600px]] | |||
::It looks like an HK417. Beowulf rounds aren't that long. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:45, 25 December 2013 (EST) | |||
:::Definitely an HK417, can tell by a few things such as the magazine shape (although it appears to be opaque rather than transparent which may indicate it is airsoft), selector markings, the high rail indicating a piston design, and the two bolts on the lower half of the handguard. Also, all of the large caliber AR-15 rounds like the .50 Beowulf and .458 SOCOM are the same length as 5.56x45mm so fit in a regular AR-15 pattern magazine, meaning that there would be pretty much no external difference aside from the bore diameter. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:24, 25 December 2013 (EST) | |||
::::You know what, now that you mention it it ''is'' obvious. Must have been wishful thinking - I heard a big bang and saw a big piece of brass, and thought "yay, finally a Beowulf gets a TV appearance!" The opaque mag doesn't indicate airsoft, though - the airsoft 417s I've seen have all had translucent mags with fake rounds inside. Funny thing, I think the 417 maybe makes me even happier. (...I need to add a 417 to my collection.) [[User:Awmperry|Awmperry]] ([[User talk:Awmperry|talk]]) 08:40, 26 December 2013 (EST) | |||
Maybe the mags were painted to hide blanks? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:00, 27 December 2013 (EST) | |||
== MP5SDs == | |||
[[File:NCISLAS5E10 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kensi charges in towards a butcher shop disguised as a criminal hideout near the end of "Frozen Lake" (S5E10).]] | |||
[[File:NCISLAS5E10 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sam aims his MP5SD at an armed gangster near the end of "The Frozen Lake" (S5E10).]] | |||
Sam's MP5SD is defintely an A3 with an attached suppressor, but I'm not 100% sure about Kensi's. Thoughts?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] ([[User talk:--JazzBlackBelt--|talk]]) 01:55, 31 December 2013 (EST) | |||
:I can say that Kensi's has an integrated suppressor. Can't tell which one though. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 09:03, 16 January 2014 (EST) | |||
::They're all just attached, no proper SD models.--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] ([[User talk:Crazycrankle|talk]]) 16:34, 16 January 2014 (EST) | |||
== Nate's Sidearm == | |||
I think Nate uses a SIG-Sauer P228 in episode 15. I could get a good screenshot of the weapon but I'am sure it was a P228 can anyone confirm. | |||
--[[User:Gunfan2818|Gunfan2818]] ([[User talk:Gunfan2818|talk]]) | |||
[[File:NCISLAS5E1501.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nate Getz ([[Peter Cambor]]) draws his SIG in "Tuhon" (S5E15).]] | |||
I'am sure it is a SIG-Sauer P228 but i'am not sure. Sorry I could get a clear screenshot of the weapon.--[[User:Gunfan2818|Gunfan2818]] ([[User talk:Gunfan2818|talk]]) | |||
==This SVD-like rifle== | |||
Getting word courtesy of Mandolin's edits that the rifle present is not a PSL or a SVD. Maybe a Norinco model perhaps? Leaving this here for reference. | |||
[[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:23, 31 March 2014 (EDT) | |||
:That is a PSL, I assume the reason Mandolin said it wasn't is due to the fact that the image you kept putting up for this rifle was the following one of a guy with a pistol: ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:17, 31 March 2014 (EDT) | |||
:: Commando552 is right, I just meant you had the wrong image in place.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 14:42, 31 March 2014 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 23:19, 1 April 2014
Pistol ID
Please help ID this pistol. --Ben41 (talk) 19:46, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
- SIG-Sauer P238. She carried it last season.--Crazycrankle (talk) 21:31, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
Black S&W auto
I don't think that pistol is necessarily a 5944, and it it is, it isn't always. In this image:
You can clearly see that it has the spur hammer of a 5904 rather than he bobbed 5944 one. However, it doesn't have the ambi safety of a 5904, so my guess would probably be a 910 (a later variant of the Smith & Wesson 915 that had a restricted 10 round mag and a few other tweaks):
The cap isn't great as it is pretty dark, but to me it also looks like it is missing the double stack step on the frame, and the rear sights look like a match for the plastic ones used on the 910 with that slightly rounded shape. I don't watch this series though so I don't know if this is a goof, and if so which pistol is the correct one. I think the pistol in the case is a 5944 though, as it seems to have a bobbed hammer 9is hard to tell due to it being in the case though), and the combination of double stack frame step without a safety on the right side suggest it is a DAO. The sight on the cased gun also looks straighter like a genuine Novak, rather than the cheap one used on the budget 910. --commando552 (talk) 11:39, 24 October 2013 (EDT)
- Just realised that the front of the slide has the minimal machining of the 910 as compared to the 5904 (or even the 915), so fairly sure that it what it is. --commando552 (talk) 11:43, 24 October 2013 (EDT)
After watching later episodes, does anyone else think that Deeks switched to the 910 permanently? --Mormonpowerranger521 2:14, 19 December 2013 (MST)
- It looks like it.----JazzBlackBelt-- (talk) 00:32, 20 December 2013 (EST)
- As far as I can tell, the only picture where the pistol is actually a 5944 is when it is in the case, all the other ones currently ID'd as this are 910s (most easily differentiated by the lack of the double stack step on the frame along with the left side slide safety). Can somebody who has seen this please fix this, I would but I have absolutely zero knowledge of this show so i would probably be wrong. --commando552 (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2014 (EDT)
Beowulf in 5x12?
In Merry Evasion (5x12) the people tracking Lily use a large-calibre M4-style platform to take out a car. I'm not well enough up on Armalites to identify the rifle itself, but would I be correct in thinking the round is a .500 Beowulf or similar? I'll try to get some screengrabs to put up. Awmperry (talk) 10:36, 25 December 2013 (EST)
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- It looks like an HK417. Beowulf rounds aren't that long. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:45, 25 December 2013 (EST)
- Definitely an HK417, can tell by a few things such as the magazine shape (although it appears to be opaque rather than transparent which may indicate it is airsoft), selector markings, the high rail indicating a piston design, and the two bolts on the lower half of the handguard. Also, all of the large caliber AR-15 rounds like the .50 Beowulf and .458 SOCOM are the same length as 5.56x45mm so fit in a regular AR-15 pattern magazine, meaning that there would be pretty much no external difference aside from the bore diameter. --commando552 (talk) 19:24, 25 December 2013 (EST)
- You know what, now that you mention it it is obvious. Must have been wishful thinking - I heard a big bang and saw a big piece of brass, and thought "yay, finally a Beowulf gets a TV appearance!" The opaque mag doesn't indicate airsoft, though - the airsoft 417s I've seen have all had translucent mags with fake rounds inside. Funny thing, I think the 417 maybe makes me even happier. (...I need to add a 417 to my collection.) Awmperry (talk) 08:40, 26 December 2013 (EST)
- Definitely an HK417, can tell by a few things such as the magazine shape (although it appears to be opaque rather than transparent which may indicate it is airsoft), selector markings, the high rail indicating a piston design, and the two bolts on the lower half of the handguard. Also, all of the large caliber AR-15 rounds like the .50 Beowulf and .458 SOCOM are the same length as 5.56x45mm so fit in a regular AR-15 pattern magazine, meaning that there would be pretty much no external difference aside from the bore diameter. --commando552 (talk) 19:24, 25 December 2013 (EST)
- It looks like an HK417. Beowulf rounds aren't that long. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:45, 25 December 2013 (EST)
Maybe the mags were painted to hide blanks? Spartan198 (talk) 01:00, 27 December 2013 (EST)
MP5SDs
Sam's MP5SD is defintely an A3 with an attached suppressor, but I'm not 100% sure about Kensi's. Thoughts?----JazzBlackBelt-- (talk) 01:55, 31 December 2013 (EST)
- I can say that Kensi's has an integrated suppressor. Can't tell which one though. Ominae (talk) 09:03, 16 January 2014 (EST)
- They're all just attached, no proper SD models.--Crazycrankle (talk) 16:34, 16 January 2014 (EST)
Nate's Sidearm
I think Nate uses a SIG-Sauer P228 in episode 15. I could get a good screenshot of the weapon but I'am sure it was a P228 can anyone confirm. --Gunfan2818 (talk)
I'am sure it is a SIG-Sauer P228 but i'am not sure. Sorry I could get a clear screenshot of the weapon.--Gunfan2818 (talk)
This SVD-like rifle
Getting word courtesy of Mandolin's edits that the rifle present is not a PSL or a SVD. Maybe a Norinco model perhaps? Leaving this here for reference.
Ominae (talk) 01:23, 31 March 2014 (EDT)
- That is a PSL, I assume the reason Mandolin said it wasn't is due to the fact that the image you kept putting up for this rifle was the following one of a guy with a pistol: (talk) 07:17, 31 March 2014 (EDT)