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:::Personally I liked their turn in ''[[Hogan's Heroes]]'' ;) But I feel everyone needs to fully research the entirety of WW2 history to be more fully rounded. If you watch OTHER historical films like ''[[Downfall (Der Untergang)|Der Untergang]]'' or ''[[Valkyrie]]'' you also don't get a view of ALL Germans as insane sociopaths either. Horrendous things happened, but for every person who toss away their humanity, there were tons of people who were just trying to get by who were not innately evil. One of my FAVORITE WAR movies was 'The Enemy Below' (1957) with Robert Mitchum. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:11, 14 July 2011 (CDT) | :::Personally I liked their turn in ''[[Hogan's Heroes]]'' ;) But I feel everyone needs to fully research the entirety of WW2 history to be more fully rounded. If you watch OTHER historical films like ''[[Downfall (Der Untergang)|Der Untergang]]'' or ''[[Valkyrie]]'' you also don't get a view of ALL Germans as insane sociopaths either. Horrendous things happened, but for every person who toss away their humanity, there were tons of people who were just trying to get by who were not innately evil. One of my FAVORITE WAR movies was 'The Enemy Below' (1957) with Robert Mitchum. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:11, 14 July 2011 (CDT) | ||
::::It is a bit ironic, however, that while Curt Jurgens and Theodore Bikel played good Germans in a movie, in real life, those same Germans imprisoned Jurgens in a concentration camp for his political views, and forced Bikel's family to flee from Austria. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:26, 14 July 2011 (CDT) | ::::It is a bit ironic, however, that while Curt Jurgens and Theodore Bikel played good Germans in a movie, in real life, those same Germans imprisoned Jurgens in a concentration camp for his political views, and forced Bikel's family to flee from Austria. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:26, 14 July 2011 (CDT) | ||
I have to agree with Moviepromaster, you can't really cover the whole nazi germany army under the term evil, there were a lot of innocent young guys who were there due to orders and lack of choice, if I would have to guess I would say it was 50/50 fanatics and regular people who were just along for the war (and think about how many died in regular fighting and killed only the enemy) the soldiers were even nice to occupied populations at times. I wont start a political discussion and say anything about Russian's --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:17, 23 September 2013 (EDT) | |||
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: Why? Isn't the reversed shot in the film? We do make note of those things. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:51, 23 September 2013 (EDT) | |||
:: Sorry about that. Undone. [[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 19:08 23 September 2013 | |||
Latest revision as of 23:21, 23 September 2013
Realization
Does anybody else think that the two Indiana Jones's where he shoots a lot more people (Raiders and Crusade) are much better than the two where he hardly shoots anybody (Temple and Skull)? I guess the story could have something to do with it too.
- It's the two with where you have Nazi bad guys. Let's face it, Nazis make good villains. (Too good. Spielberg refused to ever again make a film with cartoon-ish Nazi villains after making Schindler's List.) --Funkychinaman 16:50, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- (And yes, I know it's wrong to use the term "Nazis" as a blanket term for Germans. But I'm just quoting Indy himself, "Nazis, I hate these guys.") --Funkychinaman 16:56, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- I think when they're just being cartoonishly evil it's safe to call them Nazis, because they all are. Plus, we all know that German is the best language for being evil in. Evil Tim 17:11, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- (And yes, I know it's wrong to use the term "Nazis" as a blanket term for Germans. But I'm just quoting Indy himself, "Nazis, I hate these guys.") --Funkychinaman 16:56, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- I like Temple as much as Raiders and Crusade though as a gun guy I do notice the lack of firearms use. However, I would say in Temple's case that the story/setting has a lot to do with why there isn't much gunplay (It is, after all, a prequel to Raiders, and I would think Indy got wiser about the gun thing after the events in Temple). And fcm, I think there's no one to really object except actual Nazis so don't worry about it. :b Well, that and the fact it is Nazis involved - These are Indy films, not Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers. StanTheMan 17:08, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- "A lot changed for me after [1993's] Schindler's List, especially when I began working with Holocaust survivors, and being able to collect their testimonies. But I never look back with shame at Raiders or Last Crusade. We gave the Nazis the same spin that, I think, in a way, Charlie Chaplin was able to give them in The Great Dictator. There was always a bit of, We're not going to take them that seriously. It's just something I wouldn't choose to do right now. I would choose not to make them Saturday-matinee villains." (Source) --Funkychinaman 17:57, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- Personally I liked their turn in Hogan's Heroes ;) But I feel everyone needs to fully research the entirety of WW2 history to be more fully rounded. If you watch OTHER historical films like Der Untergang or Valkyrie you also don't get a view of ALL Germans as insane sociopaths either. Horrendous things happened, but for every person who toss away their humanity, there were tons of people who were just trying to get by who were not innately evil. One of my FAVORITE WAR movies was 'The Enemy Below' (1957) with Robert Mitchum. MoviePropMaster2008 20:11, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- It is a bit ironic, however, that while Curt Jurgens and Theodore Bikel played good Germans in a movie, in real life, those same Germans imprisoned Jurgens in a concentration camp for his political views, and forced Bikel's family to flee from Austria. --Funkychinaman 20:26, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- Personally I liked their turn in Hogan's Heroes ;) But I feel everyone needs to fully research the entirety of WW2 history to be more fully rounded. If you watch OTHER historical films like Der Untergang or Valkyrie you also don't get a view of ALL Germans as insane sociopaths either. Horrendous things happened, but for every person who toss away their humanity, there were tons of people who were just trying to get by who were not innately evil. One of my FAVORITE WAR movies was 'The Enemy Below' (1957) with Robert Mitchum. MoviePropMaster2008 20:11, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
- "A lot changed for me after [1993's] Schindler's List, especially when I began working with Holocaust survivors, and being able to collect their testimonies. But I never look back with shame at Raiders or Last Crusade. We gave the Nazis the same spin that, I think, in a way, Charlie Chaplin was able to give them in The Great Dictator. There was always a bit of, We're not going to take them that seriously. It's just something I wouldn't choose to do right now. I would choose not to make them Saturday-matinee villains." (Source) --Funkychinaman 17:57, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
I have to agree with Moviepromaster, you can't really cover the whole nazi germany army under the term evil, there were a lot of innocent young guys who were there due to orders and lack of choice, if I would have to guess I would say it was 50/50 fanatics and regular people who were just along for the war (and think about how many died in regular fighting and killed only the enemy) the soldiers were even nice to occupied populations at times. I wont start a political discussion and say anything about Russian's --Iceman (talk) 05:17, 23 September 2013 (EDT)
Colt New Service?
In this article it says that the M1917 used in Raiders is a Colt New Service, but on the Raiders page it claims it is an S&W M1917. Which page is correct? This would be my first edit and I don't want to make a mistake.
-2ndChoiceName
The two revolvers used by Indy in Raiderrs are most definately a S&W M1917 and a S&W Mk II Hand Ejector as the actual screen used guns are identified as such and are in personal collections. --Jags (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2013 (EST)
Cool, I just changed it. Also how do I sign my name?
-2ndChoiceName
In which article did you change it? To sign your name just click on the pencil icon at the top of the edit box. --Jags (talk) 17:19, 5 January 2013 (EST)
I see what you did now and you really messed it up. You need to change it back. It was thought that the Temple of Doom gun was a Colt New Service. It was also thought it could have been one of the S&Ws that had been used in Raiders. --Jags (talk) 17:25, 5 January 2013 (EST)
I just changed it back for you. If you want to know all about Indy's guns and other props please go here and study up! http://www.indygear.com/cow/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=1ba6c41cc00ed2f1444806ac4e1c0057 --Jags (talk) 17:34, 5 January 2013 (EST)
Okay, I see now, I thought that it was saying that they thought the Colt Police Positive was a Colt New Service that had also been used in Raiders. I get it now.--2ndChoiceName (talk) 18:05, 5 January 2013 (EST)
Reversed Image
Replaced the reversed image of Chen holding a Webley Mk III Pocket. Maxman (talk) 20:43 22 September 2013 (EST)
- Why? Isn't the reversed shot in the film? We do make note of those things. StanTheMan (talk) 16:51, 23 September 2013 (EDT)