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[[File:PAAF-SMG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A man on the left carries an SMG on his back.]]
[[File:PAAF-SMG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A man on the left carries an SMG on his back.]]
I identified this SMG as a [[Beretta Model 38A]], but now I have another guess: the shape of the barrel cover resembles a [[PPSh-41]]. But the magazine is straight, and the only version of PPSh with straight magazine is a German conversion MP.41(r).
I identified this SMG as a [[Beretta Model 38A]], but now I have another guess: the shape of the barrel cover resembles a [[PPSh-41]]. But the magazine is straight, and the only version of PPSh with straight magazine is a German conversion MP.41(r).
[[Image:PPSH-41 9MM CONVERSION.png|thumb|none|400px|PPSh-41 with 9mm conversion, something that happened to captured PPSh-41s. The captured weapons were adopted by the Germans as the MP41(r) - 9x19mm Parabellum.]]
[[File:PPSH 9MM.JPG|thumb|none|400px|PPSh-41 with 9mm conversion, something that happened to captured PPSh-41s. The captured weapons were adopted by the Germans as the MP41(r) - 9x19mm Parabellum.]]
So can it be? This scene was filmed in Iran, and PPSh-41 were produced in Iran but they were of standard Soviet model, in 7.62mm caliber with drum or curved magazines. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 04:45, 20 June 2013 (EDT)
So can it be? This scene was filmed in Iran, and PPSh-41 were produced in Iran but they were of standard Soviet model, in 7.62mm caliber with drum or curved magazines. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 04:45, 20 June 2013 (EDT)
*Well done, Mr Z!  Sam Cummings of Interarmco fame acquired tonnes of German weapons after the war and it's extremely possible some turned up there as they were "sanitised" (not tracable to certain nations).
http://www.takhli.org/rjw/tibet.htm  [[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 17:29, 26 June 2013 (EDT)
:: Thanks, it's very interesting and may shed some light at the appearance of such "non-native" firearms. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:28, 27 June 2013 (EDT)

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What is this SMG?

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A man on the left carries an SMG on his back.

I identified this SMG as a Beretta Model 38A, but now I have another guess: the shape of the barrel cover resembles a PPSh-41. But the magazine is straight, and the only version of PPSh with straight magazine is a German conversion MP.41(r).

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PPSh-41 with 9mm conversion, something that happened to captured PPSh-41s. The captured weapons were adopted by the Germans as the MP41(r) - 9x19mm Parabellum.

So can it be? This scene was filmed in Iran, and PPSh-41 were produced in Iran but they were of standard Soviet model, in 7.62mm caliber with drum or curved magazines. Greg-Z (talk) 04:45, 20 June 2013 (EDT)

  • Well done, Mr Z! Sam Cummings of Interarmco fame acquired tonnes of German weapons after the war and it's extremely possible some turned up there as they were "sanitised" (not tracable to certain nations).

http://www.takhli.org/rjw/tibet.htm Foofbun (talk) 17:29, 26 June 2013 (EDT)

Thanks, it's very interesting and may shed some light at the appearance of such "non-native" firearms. Greg-Z (talk) 01:28, 27 June 2013 (EDT)
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