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=Saving Code=
=Discussion=
This is to preserve the code of the entire page for the show. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 01:04, 26 April 2013 (EDT)
== Unknown Mauser rifle ==


=Handguns=
I ran across a weird Mauser in two consecutive episodes. The show had previously used [[K98k]]s, except this has a straight bolt handle, BUT, it has a cutout in the stock as if it was meant to have a bent bolt handle. Are bolts interchangeable? Is this just some weird hybrid? It doesn't appear to be a one-off. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:30, 27 May 2013 (EDT)
==CZ 38==
:I looked on some Mauser forums, and apparently the Russians reconditioned a bunch of captured K98ks with straight bolt handles. I don't know about their availability in the late sixties though. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:31, 29 May 2013 (EDT)
Daniel Briggs ([[Steven Hill]]) uses a [[CZ 38]] in the pilot episode. Willy Armitage ([[Peter Lupus]]) and Cinnamon Carter ([[Barbara Bain]]) uses it as well.
[[Image: MI66_0119_Mauser_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the straight bolt handle.]]
[[Image:CZ_38_1780.jpg|thumb|none|400px|CZ 38 - 9×17mm Browning Short]]
[[Image: MI66_0119_Mauser_02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the cutout in the stock to accommodate a bent bolt handle.]]
[[Image:MI_0101_CZ38_01.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Team leader Daniel Briggs points his CZ 38 at General Dominguez ([[Martin Landau]]).]]
[[Image: MI66_0120_Mauser_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same type of rifle in the next episode.]]
[[Image:MI_0101_CZ38_02.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]
[[Image:MI_0101_CZ38_03.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Willy Armitage holds the CZ 38 to the general's head.]]
 
== Becker & Hollander Beholla ==
Terry Targo ([[Wally Cox]]) holds a [[Becker & Hollander Beholla]] with a chrome finish in the pilot.
[[File:B&H Beholla.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Becker & Hollander Beholla - .32 ACP]]
[[Image:MI_0101_pistol_01.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]
[[Image:MI_0101_pistol_02.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]
 
==Astra 400==
The [[Astra 400]] is a frequent handgun used by the IM Force.
[[Image:Astra_400.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Astra 400 9mm Largo.]]
[[Image:MI 525.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMF Agent Barney Collier ([[Greg Morris]]) opens fire with the Astra 400 in Season 5's "The Amateur" (S3E09).]]
[[Image:MisImp 1025.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Lieutenant Albert Brocke ([[Martin Sheen]]) holds the Astra 400 in Season 3's "Live Bait" (S3E18).]]
I can't tell from the image, but having watched the show during its original I always thought these were Astra 600 in 9mm Luger. At that time, the 600 was was plentiful and cheap( I remember ads for $25) Tecolote 12:17 May 29 2013
:I'm in the tail end of Season 1, and I haven't come across any yet. According to the page, the 9mm ones have a lanyard ring rather than a heel mag release. I'll keep an eye out for it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:25, 28 May 2013 (EDT)
 
==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] is also a frequent handgun used by IMF Agents and gangsters in the series.
[[Image:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith and Wesson Model 36 - .38 special - 5 shot. First pattern with flat latch cylinder release.]]
[[Image:MI 524.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMF Agent Jim Phelps ([[Peter Graves]]) opens fire with the S&W Model 36 in Season 5's "Squeeze Play".]]
[[Image:MI 533.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMF Agent Paris ([[Leonard Nimoy]]) pulls the S&W in Season 5's "Hunted".]]
[[Image:MI5 511.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMF Agent Doug Robert ([[Sam Elliott]]) pulls the S&W in Season 5 "Takeover".]]
 
==M1911A1==
The [[M1911A1]] is another weapon seen in the series.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|none|World War II issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:MisImp 1031.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colonel Hans Krim ([[Pernell Roberts]]) holds an M1911A1 in Season 3's "The Mercenaries" (S3E04).]]
[[File:MisImp 1039.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Finding himself a survivor of a nuclear attack in the future year of 2000, Joseph Collins ([[Vic Morrow]]) takes an M1911A1 off a guard in Season 7's "Two Thousand" (S7E02).]]
[[File:MisImp 1042.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Jim Phelps ([[Peter Graves]]) holds a stainless M1911A1 while playing the role of a military general in Season 7's "Two Thousand" (S7E02).]]
 
==Luger P08==
In Season 5's "The Amateur" (S5E09), Eric Schilling ([[Anthony Zerbe]]) holds the [[Luger P08]].
[[File:Luger.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:MI 530.jpg|thumb|none|450px|In Season 5's "The Amateur" (S5E09), Eric Schilling ([[Anthony Zerbe]]) holds the [[Luger P08]].]]


==Walther P38==
==Unknown pistol==
Seravno Prison Guards are armed with the [[Walther P38]] in Season 1's "Old Man Out, Part 1" (S1E04).
Senko Brobin ([[Francis Lederer]]) takes Polya's ([[Kurt Kreuger]]) sidearm to crush some sugar cubes in "A Cube of Sugar" (S01E27). At first I thought it was a Colt Pocket Hammerless, but it has curved serrations, and the grip is too long. Any thoughts? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:49, 30 May 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther P38 pistol (manufactured at the Mauser Factory) - World War Two dated - 9x19mm]]
:Looking back, I think Cinnamon had the same pistol in "Fakeout" (S01E12). I had assumed that it was a Colt Pocket Hammerless here as well. Notice the grip running all the way up to the slide. There's also some sort of decocker/takedown lever/etc in front of the grips. It looks a bit larger than a Colt as well.--[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:27, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:MisImp 1007.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Seravno Prison Guards are armed with the [[Walther P38]] in Season 1's "Old Man Out, Part 1" (S1E04).]]
::It just occurred to me, could this be some sort of fake gun? In episode 12, Cinnamon drops it down some stairs, and in 26, a guy uses it to grind up some sugar cubes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:29, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:MisImp 1027.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The Foyer Guard ([[Tony Giorgio]]) holds the Walther in Season 4's "The Falcon (Part 3)" (S4E16).]]
[[Image:MI66_0112_CPH_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cinnamon points her Colt at Anastas Poltroni/Ted Carson in "Fakeout" (S01E12). Note the length of the grips, and possibly a lanyard ring near the heel.]]
[[Image:MI66_0112_pistol_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A grainy shot of the dropped pistol in "Fakeout" (S01E12).]]
[[Image: MI66_0126_pistol_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the grip. The serrations are curved, unlike on a Colt Pocket Hammerless. Note that the grips also run all the way up to the slide, unlike a Colt Pocket Hammerless.]]
[[Image: MI66_0126_pistol_02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A shot of the grip. Once again, note the length of the grips.]]
[[Image: MI66_0126_pistol_03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The only view we get of the entire pistol, albeit not a great view.]]
:Found it. It's a variant of the Star Ruby. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:43, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
::It's hard to pin down which variant, since there are so many. I think it's one of the seven shot variants, since the grip doesn't extend past Cinnamon's hand. I just took my best guess. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:20, 31 May 2013 (EDT)


=Submachine Guns=
==Colt Cobra==
[[Image:MI66_0117_DS_02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of Vito Scalisi's DS as he fires it next to Rollin's ear in "The Frame" (S01E17).]]
If you look closely at the barrel of the gun being fired next to Rollin's ear (S01E17)you can the barrel marking "COBRA", also note the frame
color is a little plum colored,indicating the the alloy frame of the Colt Cobra. The same plum color shows on the gun being pointed at Willy
(S01E06)so it's probably the same gun. I only noticed this because of the high quality of these screencaps.---Tecolote, 15th June 2013
:Where's the second one? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:37, 15 June 2013 (EDT)
The first picture under Dectective Special where a Casino guard is pointing one at Willy, and I'm only basing it on that plummy frame color, which
is noticable on both Colt and S&W alloy frames in person,so it's your call. again,great screencaps.---Tecolote ,15 June 2013
:Oh, okay. I'll move that over. I'm wondering if all of the DSs in the show are Cobras then. The show tends to use the same guns over and over again, like that one [[Becker & Hollander Beholla]] that keeps showing up. (I'm assuming it's the same one, you never see more than one, and it's nickel or chrome plated, so how many can there be?) Have you looked at the season 2 caps? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:21, 15 June 2013 (EDT)


==M1928A1 Thompson==
== Eerie similarities ==
The [[M1928A1 Thompson]] is seen in the hands of the soldiers guarding the vault in the Pilot episode.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MI_0101_M1928_01.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]
[[File:MisImp 1003.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The [[M1928A1 Thompson]] is seen in the hands of the soldiers guarding the vault in the Pilot episode.]]
[[Image:MI_0101_M1928_02.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]


==M3 "Grease Gun"==
So I finally broke down and bought an old book on the series, which had the original treatment for the show. The title was supposed to be "Brigg's Squad", and it was about a team "formerly a Special Forces group that performed wartime missions 'often incredibly hazardous and totally without reward because the government of the United States must disavow any knowledge of those particular activities...'" to be lead by a Lt. Col. David Briggs, and the team included a "wheeler-dealer 'who never owns anything longer than it takes to turn a profit'", a ladies man who "does not know what a woman means by the word 'no', never - not once in his life - ever having heard it, a tech guy, a muscle man who was "ugly, ill-tempered, inept, and probably the strongest man in the world," a martial arts expert and professional killer, and a master of disguise. If you were to combine a few of those character traits, isn't this basically ''The A-Team'' then? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 01:28, 30 June 2013 (EDT)
The [[M3 "Grease Gun"]] is seen in the hands of the soldiers guarding the vault in the Pilot episode.
[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[File:MisImp 1003.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The [[M3 "Grease Gun"]] is seen in the hands of the soldiers guarding the vault in the Pilot episode.]]


==Madsen M50==
== Sound effects gun ==
The [[Madsen M50]] is also seen in the series carried by foreign troops. In Season 2's "The Slave (Part 1)" (S2E05), a camera is concealed in a specially modified Madsen M50 carried by Barney.
[[File:DanishMadsenm50.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[File:MisImp 1018.jpg|thumb|none|450px|In Season 2's "The Slave (Part 1)" (S2E05), a camera is concealed in a specially modified Madsen M50 carried by Barney.]]


=Rifles=
The episode "Action!" (S01E23) was probably one of the cheaper episodes to make, since it involved infiltrating a movie set. There was a gun-like device on set though, and I have no idea what it's suppose to be? For sound effects? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:35, 31 December 2015 (EST)
==Mauser Karabiner 98k==
[[Image:MI66 0123 SFX 01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The thing that looks like a gun on a stand circled.]]
The [[Karabiner 98k]] rifle is seen used by a firing squad in Season 5 "The Hostage".
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Karabiner 98k made in Czechoslovakia 530.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k made in Czechoslovakia (aka Czech Mauser)- 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:MI5 502.jpg|thumb|none|450px|In Season 5's "The Hostage", the firing squad here are armed with Mauser Kar98k rifles. The rifle closest to the camera is a Czech-made Kar98k rifle (note the winter trigger guard on the rifle, a common feature on WWII and post-war Czech manufactured Kar98k rifles).]]


== Winchester Model 70 ==
== Beretta M1934 in "The Legacy" ==
A [[Winchester Model 70]] is seen being handled by IMF Agent Dana Lambert ([[Lesley Ann Warren]]) in Season 5's "Takeover".
[[Image:Win70-2.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Winchester Model 70.]]
[[Image:MI 520.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMF Agent Willy Armitage ([[Peter Lupus]]) takes aim with the Winchester in Season 5's "Squeeze Play".]]
[[Image:MI5 508.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A [[Winchester Model 70]] is seen being handled by IMF Agent Dana Lambert ([[Lesley Ann Warren]]) in Season 5's "Takeover".]]
[[Image:MI5 509.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dana with the rifle in "Takeover".]]


==M1 Garand==
I wouldn't call it odd that a Neo-Nazi would use a Beretta M1934, this weapon was used by Nazi-Germany under the designation Pistole 671(i), and it could be assumed that the weapon was passed down, from the father to the son! --[[User:Exodianecross|Exodianecross]] ([[User talk:Exodianecross|talk]]) 09:42, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
The [[M1 Garand]] is a frequent weapon seen in the hands of guards and soldiers in the series. In Season 5's "The Rebel", a Latin American soldier is armed with an [[M1 Garand]].
:Incidentally, when the episode was remade in 1988, they did use a Walther PP, though I think that was more for practical reasons. I think it's just what the armorers had on hand. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:59, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]]
::I agree. But the comment, that it's odd for a Neo-Nazi to use a italian weapon, I tried to explain it. And the Beretta was indeed used by german soldiers! --[[User:Exodianecross|Exodianecross]] ([[User talk:Exodianecross|talk]]) 16:28, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:MI 534.jpg|thumb|none|450px|In Season 5's "The Rebel", a Latin American soldier is armed with an [[M1 Garand]].]]
:::The odd thing is that there were plenty of German pistols in the first season, some even in that very episode. You had P38s, Lugers, and even the Beholla. If you wanted to include Czech guns, you had the CZ 27 and 38. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:47, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
 
==Beretta BM59==
In Season 5's "The Amateur", an Eastern European guard is seen armed with what appears to be a [[Beretta BM59]].
[[File:BerettaBM59Civilian.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Beretta BM59]]
[[Image:MI 532.jpg|thumb|none|450px|In Season 5's "The Amateur", an Eastern European guard is seen armed with what appears to be a [[Beretta BM59]].]]
 
==M1 Carbine==
The [[M1 Carbine]] is another frequently used weapon by foreign guards and soldiers in the series. In Season 1's "Action!" (S1E23), actors portraying American troops in fake documentary footage are armed with the [[M1 Carbine]].  
[[File:M1ExtdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[File:MisImp 1016.jpg|thumb|none|450px|In Season 1's "Action!" (S1E23), actors portraying American troops in fake documentary footage are armed with the [[M1 Carbine]].]]
[[Image:MI 540.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Guards are armed with the M1 Carbine in Season 5's "The Rebel".]]
 
==M1A1 Carbine==
A [[M1A1 Carbine|M1A1 Paratrooper Carbine]] with foregrip is seen in the hands of a border guard in Season 1's "Old Man Out, Part 2" (S1E05).
[[Image:M1CarbinePlainfieldPM30.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Carbine manufactured by Plainfield, with post WW2 paratrooper stock]]
[[File:MisImp 1010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The M1A1 Carbine fitted with the foregrip is seen to the right in Season 1's "Old Man Out, Part 2" (S1E05).]]
 
=Shotguns=
==Sawed off 12 gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==
A [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|sawed off shotgun]] is used in Season 5's "Takeover".
[[Image:Large2-uplander.jpg|thumb|none|501px|Stoeger Uplander 12-gauge]]
[[File:MI5 512.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|sawed off shotgun]] is used in Season 5's "Takeover" (S5E14).]]
 
=Machine Guns=
==Browning M2HB Machine Gun==
Soldiers clean the barrels of their [[Browning M2]] machine guns in the Pilot episode.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on M3 tripod - .50 BMG.]]
[[File:MisImp 1000.jpg|thumb|none|451px|Soldiers clean the barrels of their Browning M2 machine guns while their buddy loafs in the Pilot episode.]]
 
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== Unknown Mauser rifle ==
 
I ran across a weird Mauser in two consecutive episodes. The show had previously used [[K98k]]s, except this has a straight bolt handle, BUT, it has a cutout in the stock as if it was meant to have a bent bolt handle. Are bolts interchangeable? Is this just some weird hybrid? It doesn't appear to be a one-off. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:30, 27 May 2013 (EDT)
[[Image: MI66_0119_Mauser_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the straight bolt handle.]]
[[Image: MI66_0119_Mauser_02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the cutout in the stock to accommodate a bent bolt handle.]]
[[Image: MI66_0120_Mauser_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same type of rifle in the next episode.]]

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Discussion

Unknown Mauser rifle

I ran across a weird Mauser in two consecutive episodes. The show had previously used K98ks, except this has a straight bolt handle, BUT, it has a cutout in the stock as if it was meant to have a bent bolt handle. Are bolts interchangeable? Is this just some weird hybrid? It doesn't appear to be a one-off. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:30, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

I looked on some Mauser forums, and apparently the Russians reconditioned a bunch of captured K98ks with straight bolt handles. I don't know about their availability in the late sixties though. --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:31, 29 May 2013 (EDT)
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Note the straight bolt handle.
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Note the cutout in the stock to accommodate a bent bolt handle.
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The same type of rifle in the next episode.

Unknown pistol

Senko Brobin (Francis Lederer) takes Polya's (Kurt Kreuger) sidearm to crush some sugar cubes in "A Cube of Sugar" (S01E27). At first I thought it was a Colt Pocket Hammerless, but it has curved serrations, and the grip is too long. Any thoughts? --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:49, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

Looking back, I think Cinnamon had the same pistol in "Fakeout" (S01E12). I had assumed that it was a Colt Pocket Hammerless here as well. Notice the grip running all the way up to the slide. There's also some sort of decocker/takedown lever/etc in front of the grips. It looks a bit larger than a Colt as well.--Funkychinaman (talk) 14:27, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
It just occurred to me, could this be some sort of fake gun? In episode 12, Cinnamon drops it down some stairs, and in 26, a guy uses it to grind up some sugar cubes. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:29, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
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Cinnamon points her Colt at Anastas Poltroni/Ted Carson in "Fakeout" (S01E12). Note the length of the grips, and possibly a lanyard ring near the heel.
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A grainy shot of the dropped pistol in "Fakeout" (S01E12).
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A closeup of the grip. The serrations are curved, unlike on a Colt Pocket Hammerless. Note that the grips also run all the way up to the slide, unlike a Colt Pocket Hammerless.
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A shot of the grip. Once again, note the length of the grips.
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The only view we get of the entire pistol, albeit not a great view.
Found it. It's a variant of the Star Ruby. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:43, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
It's hard to pin down which variant, since there are so many. I think it's one of the seven shot variants, since the grip doesn't extend past Cinnamon's hand. I just took my best guess. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:20, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

Colt Cobra

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A closeup of Vito Scalisi's DS as he fires it next to Rollin's ear in "The Frame" (S01E17).

If you look closely at the barrel of the gun being fired next to Rollin's ear (S01E17)you can the barrel marking "COBRA", also note the frame color is a little plum colored,indicating the the alloy frame of the Colt Cobra. The same plum color shows on the gun being pointed at Willy (S01E06)so it's probably the same gun. I only noticed this because of the high quality of these screencaps.---Tecolote, 15th June 2013

Where's the second one? --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:37, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

The first picture under Dectective Special where a Casino guard is pointing one at Willy, and I'm only basing it on that plummy frame color, which is noticable on both Colt and S&W alloy frames in person,so it's your call. again,great screencaps.---Tecolote ,15 June 2013

Oh, okay. I'll move that over. I'm wondering if all of the DSs in the show are Cobras then. The show tends to use the same guns over and over again, like that one Becker & Hollander Beholla that keeps showing up. (I'm assuming it's the same one, you never see more than one, and it's nickel or chrome plated, so how many can there be?) Have you looked at the season 2 caps? --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:21, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

Eerie similarities

So I finally broke down and bought an old book on the series, which had the original treatment for the show. The title was supposed to be "Brigg's Squad", and it was about a team "formerly a Special Forces group that performed wartime missions 'often incredibly hazardous and totally without reward because the government of the United States must disavow any knowledge of those particular activities...'" to be lead by a Lt. Col. David Briggs, and the team included a "wheeler-dealer 'who never owns anything longer than it takes to turn a profit'", a ladies man who "does not know what a woman means by the word 'no', never - not once in his life - ever having heard it, a tech guy, a muscle man who was "ugly, ill-tempered, inept, and probably the strongest man in the world," a martial arts expert and professional killer, and a master of disguise. If you were to combine a few of those character traits, isn't this basically The A-Team then? --Funkychinaman (talk) 01:28, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

Sound effects gun

The episode "Action!" (S01E23) was probably one of the cheaper episodes to make, since it involved infiltrating a movie set. There was a gun-like device on set though, and I have no idea what it's suppose to be? For sound effects? --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:35, 31 December 2015 (EST)

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The thing that looks like a gun on a stand circled.

Beretta M1934 in "The Legacy"

I wouldn't call it odd that a Neo-Nazi would use a Beretta M1934, this weapon was used by Nazi-Germany under the designation Pistole 671(i), and it could be assumed that the weapon was passed down, from the father to the son! --Exodianecross (talk) 09:42, 7 July 2016 (EDT)

Incidentally, when the episode was remade in 1988, they did use a Walther PP, though I think that was more for practical reasons. I think it's just what the armorers had on hand. --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:59, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
I agree. But the comment, that it's odd for a Neo-Nazi to use a italian weapon, I tried to explain it. And the Beretta was indeed used by german soldiers! --Exodianecross (talk) 16:28, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
The odd thing is that there were plenty of German pistols in the first season, some even in that very episode. You had P38s, Lugers, and even the Beholla. If you wanted to include Czech guns, you had the CZ 27 and 38. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2016 (EDT)