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Happy New Year's to all. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
--[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 11:05, 14 February 2013 (EST)
::Doing some digging I'm pretty sure it's an M1917 revolver with pearl grips. Anyone else think so? --[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 12:02, 14 February 2013 (EST)
== New AD space ==
== I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie ==
Just letting you know that there are a few problems I've noticed with the new ad space in the upper right --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:52, 25 January 2013 (EST):
At the ''[[John Carter (2012)|John Carter]]'' movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from [[Tanegashima]]s (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
[[Image:Thark rifle photoshop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.]]
1. When looking at differences in revisions, the edits seen on the right are blocked by the new ad space.
==Smiling Friends page?==
The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox [[User:Dnkakusei/Sandbox#Smiling_Friends_.5B2022-ongoing.2C_USA.5D|here]]. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
2. In pages that don't have infoboxes, the ad space pushes down the poster picture, making it appear that the ad is part of the movie page. This is noticeable in actor pages and non-infobox pages.
== Delete category backlog ==
: Thanks for informing. I did notice something odd on pages I created (both with and without infoboxes) but I could not figure out what. Should we do something or can will this be solved automatically? Cheers, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 08:07, 26 January 2013 (EST)
Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
: Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:: Got more stuff for deletion. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
:: This is being tested, so if there are any other problems, please let us know. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 08:17, 26 January 2013 (EST)
== Blue Muzzle Flashes ==
Here are some examples of what happens with the non-infobox pages.
Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --[[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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== Monsters vs Aliens? ==
== Dynamic Article List ==
Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine
I've temporarily disabled dynamic article list while trying to track down a cpu spike. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 19:45, 27 January 2013 (EST)
== Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol ==
== Weird image links ==
I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.
I know it's not a biggie for some people, but I like to enlarge some images and I found these a week or so ago:
I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info
*http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:MP5KA1.jpg
*http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Twotone_mp.jpg
They redirect to the Main Page inexplicably. There was a third one I found but I can't remember which one it was now. I'm not sure what's up with them but I thought I'd let you guys know. Thanks in advance - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 10:23, 29 January 2013 (EST)
:The third was probably the claymore mine image, which I re-uploaded and it started working again. Might work with those two as well, I'll give it a try tomorrow if nobody else does it before me. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:32, 29 January 2013 (EST)
If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!
[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:AK47-PolyTechLegend.jpg This] image is broken too. It appears on the image page, but when you open it as full size it redirects to the main page. I can't find that MP5KA1 image I uploaded again, so if it can't be fixed will have to settle for uploading the 400px thumbnail version which the server still has. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:31, 29 January 2013 (EST)
Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.
Oh, yeah, this was the third one lol: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:P5Wood.jpg Thanks for getting back to me so fast :D --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:04, 30 January 2013 (EST)
:I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
== Trivia Page? ==
: Thank you!
I wondered if there was a Trivia Page on IMFDB, or if there should be one? I'd like to know things like: "''Most Common Firearm''" "''Youngest Actor/Actress To Hold A Firearm''" "''Most Firearms Used By An Actor/Actress''" "''Most Firearms Used In A Film''". Obviously, the answers would be according to IMFDB's current pages. [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 15:32, 31 January 2013 (EST)
Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023
:That kind of thing would be bit difficult to compile, and I don't know how many people would go out of their way to at a dedicated trivia page. The trivia section on the front page fulfills a similar purpose, in much more visible place. If you have any trivia to suggest, however, please let us know. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:18, 31 January 2013 (EST)
== Position of infobox on page ==
(Testing nic/time)
[[User:Therealnecroscope|Therealnecroscope]] ([[User talk:Therealnecroscope|talk]]) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
It's probably too simple for words, but I just cannot get my infoboxes positioned on the right side of the page. I have only started to use infoboxes for my last two movie pages ([[Preacher, The|The Preacher]] & [[Heineken Kidnapping, The|The Heineken Kidnapping]]) and even though I seem to be using the correct coding the infoboxes keep hanging somewhat in the middle of the page. Any suggestions for an infobox-rookie? Thanks in advance, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 17:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)
==White M18 grenade==
:It looks okay to me. Is there an ad pushing it towards the middle? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:30, 27 February 2013 (EST)
Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
::Yes, in both cases there are indeed local ads pushing the infobox towards the middle. Let me know if there's something I can do about that. Thanks, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 02:36, 28 February 2013 (EST)
:I don't think they come in white IRL. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
== New Game FPS TACTICAL INTERVECTION ==
==Stunt/action choreography for a director's page==
On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director [[Kensuke Sonomura]], I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
weapons in trailer : P2000, G36CV, P90 and unknow sniper
==Firearm citations without screen grabs?==
I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --[[User:226X5-9-TAC|226X5-9-TAC]] ([[User talk:226X5-9-TAC|talk]]) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).
:First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
: Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I just registered on imfdb to find information on the pistols used in [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1282041/ Anton Chekhov's The Duel]. The setting is supposed to be in 1890s Russia.
==NCIS Sydney==
Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
A few screen caps are online: [http://www.flix66.com/2011/05/28/movie-review-anton-chekhovs-the-duel-blu-ray/ the 2nd on this page], [http://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxtrVFqQ1ro6ywf.png tumblr], [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/theduelpistol1.jpg/ imageshack 1], and [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/theduelpistol2.jpg/ imageshack 2]. --[[User:JustanID|JustanID]] ([[User talk:JustanID|talk]]) 19:15, 7 March 2013 (EST)
== Happy New Year! (2024) ==
:It looks like a large caliber [[Flintlock Pistol]]. I don't recognize it as one used in other films but you can go through the films on that page to find a specific model. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 21:10, 7 March 2013 (EST)
Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for the response, knowing it's large caliber is helpful. I looked through the pictures on [[Flintlock Pistol]], but [http://classic.gunauction.com/buy/11728452/ this] (different grip) is the closest I could find via GIS. --[[User:JustanID|JustanID]] ([[User talk:JustanID|talk]]) 23:22, 7 March 2013 (EST)
:::I enlarged the best of those photos. You should also keep in mind the film was shot in Croatia, so it would be good to start with your search limited to what's available in Eastern Europe. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 02:01, 8 March 2013 (EST)
[[File:ACTD-Flintlock.jpg]]
== Glock Experts? ==
Do we have any Glock experts in the house?? I am in the processes of doing seasons 3 & 4 of [[In Plain Sight]] and there are a LOT of Glocks used and there is a lot of confusion over whether they are 9mm (more common) or .40 cal (which is what the US Marshals use in real life). --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 21:32, 7 March 2013 (EST)
== IMDB Links (again) ==
Man, it's been a long time since I've posted here! Awesome to see over the years that this fabulous site is still going strong.
Anyway, to the point, which was previously brought up last year, (now in archive page 2), and generally deemed to be a good idea, namely <b>to have IMDB links on all of the actor/movie/game pages</b>. And, I guess, Wikipedia links on <i>every</i> page.
I for one would find it an essential feature, my movie watching experience invariably includes ''the other Wiki'', here and IMDB, although I usually come here first. :-) Without fail, something on one of your pages inspires me to follow up on IMDB or Wikipedia and I invariably spend several futile seconds looking for the links that aren't there. A fairly nasty oversized link to Amazon is all there is.
I'm afraid I'm no Wiki expert but isn't there a quick and easy way to generate IMDB links using Wiki code? Said other Wiki has an "IMDB" tag specifically for that effect, and code for linking to other Wikias, much as they do for linking back to "the master". Whether this can be done en masse or whether it would at best just be a cut/paste exercise I don't know, but if nothing else the template for new pages could be updated.
If all else fails, and if the code matched it might also be relatively straightforward to just lift the links directly from Wikipedia itself, saving time and effort.
Anyway, it's just a thought, given the frequency of references to Wiki and IMDB in the body of the articles here, it seems kinda crazy not to have an "External Links" section at the bottom of each page with the two links, easy to find and consistent. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]])
: I quite agree and actually I was going to post the same question on of these days. I take the freedom to think on IMFDB we should focus on gun-relevant matters and for details about actors/movie in general, refer to the experts of IMDB. We could thus possibly do away with story lines at the top (which most people ignore anyway) and personal details on the actor pages. Having clear links to IMDB movie/actor pages (if this has not been discussed earlier...) sounds like a great idea to me, further improving page quality on IMFDB and allowing contributors more time to focus on guns. Am interested to see what you guys think, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:01, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
:: See [http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1989 here]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:36, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
::: PeeWee's suggestions are excellent. And with the utmost respect to MoviePropMaster, I'm not entirely sure that's a particularly balanced argument. Boycotting a site just because it's commercial or has adverts seems a bit, well, spiteful. It's a universally recognised resource, just like Wikipedia, who have no problem linking to IMDB, despite also receiving no sponsorship.
::: The entire concept of Wikias is about linking together relevant information from any and all sources, in the most comprehensive and accessible way possible. Many Wikias, both official and homegrown, have ads as well - including this one. Does this mean that other people shouldn't link to this site as a result? I dislike ads as much as the next man but if I refused to support sites that used them I'd never go anywhere.
::: And just because I don't find a link to IMDB or Wiki isn't going to stop me from going there. Restrict functionality out of some antipathy towards IMDB, however, and you're just as likely to put people off coming here in the first place. It's a slippery slope, and akin to much of the bad press Wikipedia editors get for their often exclusionary and elitist behaviour. It costs the other Wiki a lot of credibility despite not being representative of the whole site, and so I still continue to support it as best I can.
::: And while I admit that IMFDB is not obliged to help IMDB earn revenue, that doesn't mean it can't use them as a resource for its own benefit. They make enough money either way, and really, do we care that much about other companies' profits? It's not like IMFDB is in competition with them.
::: Like MPM himself says, it's a valuable resource, just like Wikipedia, and it'd be a shame to overlook either of them. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]]) 06:11, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
:::: There is a difference between linking to the Wikipedia or IMDB article in order to prove something or because they have something relevant to say, and arbitrarily whacking a pair of links at the bottom of every single page. Whether it is via the use of a template or putting in raw links, it will take a hell of a lot of effort and time to put Wiki and IMDB links on every actor, television, film and video game page (particularly due to the fact that with IMDB links I don't think you can do it automatically, and have to actually go to the page and copy a numerical address), and without any incentive or financial reward for this site I really don't think it is worth it. That is just my opinion though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:56, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
After discussing with [[User:Bunni|Bunni]] (the site manager for those who don't know) a decision has been made. We are NOT going to link to IMDB on all pages by default. We have no issue with citing them and linking to them as a source, but we are NOT going to put links on every page just for the sake of information. There are a number of reasons for this but bottom line is that this is the decision. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] <span style="color:green">''IMFDB Chief of Operations''</span> ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 14:04, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
== Please help ID this shotgun ==
I'm not sure what this shotgun is. It's been listed as a replica of Remington 870 Tactical, but the ejection port is different. This shotgun looks similar to ones seen in ''[[E.T.]]'' and ''[[The Devil's Own]]''. Please help. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 15:58, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
Happy New Year's to all. --Ben41 (talk) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie
At the John Carter movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from Tanegashimas (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Error creating thumbnail: File missingA photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.
Smiling Friends page?
The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox here. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --Dnkakusei (talk) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Delete category backlog
Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. Ominae (talk) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. Ominae (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Got more stuff for deletion. Ominae (talk) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Blue Muzzle Flashes
Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --Theakker3 (talk) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine
Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol
I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.
I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info
If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!
Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.
I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. Pustelga7 (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. Ominae (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
I don't think they come in white IRL. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Stunt/action choreography for a director's page
On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director Kensuke Sonomura, I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --Dnkakusei (talk) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Firearm citations without screen grabs?
I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --226X5-9-TAC (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).
First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Identifying revolver
What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. Theakker3 (talk) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. StanTheMan (talk) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
NCIS Sydney
Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? Ominae (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Happy New Year! (2024)
Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--Dannyguns (talk) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
