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Is this page eligible for inclusion? It doesn't contain any specifically identifiable weapons and they are only in the background. The rule is "It must have more than one real firearm in it", and I suppose it technically does as there are several on the wall, but they are all the same unidentifiable weapon which is purely incidental and not used by anyone. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:20, 8 March 2013 (EST) | Is this page eligible for inclusion? It doesn't contain any specifically identifiable weapons and they are only in the background. The rule is "It must have more than one real firearm in it", and I suppose it technically does as there are several on the wall, but they are all the same unidentifiable weapon which is purely incidental and not used by anyone. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:20, 8 March 2013 (EST) | ||
:WoK was my first Star Trek experience and one of my favorite movies of all time, but I'd have to agree. These guns never come off the wall. | |||
===It must have more than one real firearm in it=== | |||
The page must have enough firearms to merit inclusion into the database, thus the page must have more than ONE real firearm in it to qualify. There are some important exceptions to this rule: | |||
1) the firearm is identifiable, well seen and important to the story. A film where 'some character' wields an 'unknown revolver' means nothing. | |||
2) it has enough screen time for any viewer to wonder what make or model it is. . | |||
3) it must drive the plot forward and not be an 'incidental' prop (like something hanging on the wall in the background). | |||
'''''(a) If it is in the background, it must be 'interesting enough' to merit someone asking the question 'what is that?' Thus if it has enough screen time and it is identifiable, it qualifies. If it is a random 'set dressing' or a 'shape' held by a extra, then it does not qualify. ''''' | |||
4) the single firearm rule only applies if the firearm is real. If it is an obvious toy or airsoft gun, then it does not qualify. Having a lone character wave around an 'orange plug' airsoft toy does not merit a page. If the film is filled with various replica or high quality airsoft weapons than can fool the casual viewer, then it qualifies, if only to shine light upon the fact that the guns are fakes. | |||
--[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:32, 8 March 2013 (EST) | |||
: If these were the only two Star Trek movies on the site, I would be more inclined to agree. But because there is a [[:Category:Star Trek|Star Trek]] category, I am more inclined to include everything. Since I have the Blu-rays for these, I redid the screenshots in HD. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 18:38, 8 March 2013 (EST) | |||
::Well, if you're going to include them all, I think there's a display of weapons in Generations as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:57, 8 March 2013 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 23:57, 8 March 2013
Is this page eligible for inclusion? It doesn't contain any specifically identifiable weapons and they are only in the background. The rule is "It must have more than one real firearm in it", and I suppose it technically does as there are several on the wall, but they are all the same unidentifiable weapon which is purely incidental and not used by anyone. --commando552 (talk) 18:20, 8 March 2013 (EST)
- WoK was my first Star Trek experience and one of my favorite movies of all time, but I'd have to agree. These guns never come off the wall.
It must have more than one real firearm in it
The page must have enough firearms to merit inclusion into the database, thus the page must have more than ONE real firearm in it to qualify. There are some important exceptions to this rule:
1) the firearm is identifiable, well seen and important to the story. A film where 'some character' wields an 'unknown revolver' means nothing. 2) it has enough screen time for any viewer to wonder what make or model it is. . 3) it must drive the plot forward and not be an 'incidental' prop (like something hanging on the wall in the background).
(a) If it is in the background, it must be 'interesting enough' to merit someone asking the question 'what is that?' Thus if it has enough screen time and it is identifiable, it qualifies. If it is a random 'set dressing' or a 'shape' held by a extra, then it does not qualify.
4) the single firearm rule only applies if the firearm is real. If it is an obvious toy or airsoft gun, then it does not qualify. Having a lone character wave around an 'orange plug' airsoft toy does not merit a page. If the film is filled with various replica or high quality airsoft weapons than can fool the casual viewer, then it qualifies, if only to shine light upon the fact that the guns are fakes.
--Funkychinaman (talk) 18:32, 8 March 2013 (EST)
- If these were the only two Star Trek movies on the site, I would be more inclined to agree. But because there is a Star Trek category, I am more inclined to include everything. Since I have the Blu-rays for these, I redid the screenshots in HD. --Ben41 (talk) 18:38, 8 March 2013 (EST)
- Well, if you're going to include them all, I think there's a display of weapons in Generations as well. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:57, 8 March 2013 (EST)