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the only thing i find funny is that the 92FS is used by the LAPD!?! [[User:Scarecrow|scarecrow]] 11:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC) | the only thing i find funny is that the 92FS is used by the LAPD!?! [[User:Scarecrow|scarecrow]] 11:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
:How so? It is issued by LAPD. Or, do you mean because he should at least have a passing familiarity with it and not call it an "AK-47". --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 22:04, 7 March 2017 (EST) | |||
It was not the Chief of Police, Fuller's just the captain of the Metro Division. I think Fuller just called the TEC-9 a AK-47 to make the officers' action sounds more heroic, thereby making him look good too. It's funny when he said it's a AK-47, the Sheriff deputy beside him gave him a strange look.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 12:16, 16 March 2011 (CDT) | It was not the Chief of Police, Fuller's just the captain of the Metro Division. I think Fuller just called the TEC-9 a AK-47 to make the officers' action sounds more heroic, thereby making him look good too. It's funny when he said it's a AK-47, the Sheriff deputy beside him gave him a strange look.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 12:16, 16 March 2011 (CDT) | ||
==Claymore Explosive Power?== | ==Claymore Explosive Power?== | ||
When Jim Street sets up the Claymore to blow the door off at the end, does the claymore have that much power? As far as I know, the Claymore is a small charge that detonates throwing 700 Ball Bearings out, would the charge be enough to blow the door? Would it prouce that bright orange flame? Would it detonate when Jim shoots it with the Kimber Custom? - [[Theocd]] 16th October 2010 | When Jim Street sets up the Claymore to blow the door off at the end, does the claymore have that much power? As far as I know, the Claymore is a small charge that detonates throwing 700 Ball Bearings out, would the charge be enough to blow the door? Would it prouce that bright orange flame? Would it detonate when Jim shoots it with the Kimber Custom? - [[User:Theocd]] 16th October 2010 | ||
an M18A1 Claymore's explosion is from C4 inside the Claymore. and Jim just shot the primer that would have been tripped if LL Cool Jay tripped the wire. | an M18A1 Claymore's explosion is from C4 inside the Claymore. and Jim just shot the primer that would have been tripped if LL Cool Jay tripped the wire. | ||
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When you've seen actual jams countless times, and the fact that on the big screen and when you watch it on DVD, the shot was so up close, it's hard to miss [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 12:28, 2 January 2013 (EST) | When you've seen actual jams countless times, and the fact that on the big screen and when you watch it on DVD, the shot was so up close, it's hard to miss [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 12:28, 2 January 2013 (EST) | ||
== Gun shop deleted scene == | |||
On my DVD copy, there's a deleted scene where two patrol officers go into a gun shop asking for "anything that will penetrate body armor" and are handed three 20" AR-15s. There are numerous other guns around the shop that are hard or impossible to ID, but I did notice at least one Winchester 1894 on a rack behind the counter. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 23:07, 24 April 2020 (EDT) | |||
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can someone please make a page for the tv show this movie was based on?
- I would if I had the DVD, but unfortunately I don't. They also only have the first half of the series on DVD, the second season hasn't been released. Orca1 9904 17:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
in the special features on the dvd there is a lot of footage from the show, i could do some screencaps
Sniping Scene
Just wondering if there was any reason (training, doctrine or whatever) that Renner/Gamble holds his dog tags between his teeth when taking out the LAPD helicopter with the MacMillan .50? --Charon68 19:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Doubt it, just being badass.-protoAuthor 20:25, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- To keep from biting his tongue. Some sharpshooters are somewhat wary of the .50's recoil, and bite down on something to keep their teeth separated when the stock jumps into them. Or at least, so I have been told. Atypicaloracle 05:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
It's a publicity shot, it wasn't particularly useful, I think. That's why you don't see the shot in the movie. --Camden Hennis 23:24, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
though you would think being able to hit a heli engine twice from that distance you would already be experienced with the rifle and not need to bite down on something. scarecrow 11:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
556 Stopping Power
In the bank, when Gamble takes out the first gunman holding the Browning, and accedentaly shoots a hostage, would the 556 round be able to go through the armor of the gunman after going through the arm of the hostage?--MarineCorps1 22:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
- Depends on the armor and the specific payload on the 5.56; it has surprising penetrating power at short to medium range. Atypicaloracle 05:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Would the same happen if it were a 9x19mm from a MP5 ?
- - I would like to say that it's not likely generally speaking, especially if the round hit in the center torso area and the subject had armor on. However, on the hit shown in the film, it could possibly probably have penetrated through also. I would add that I think most bullet-resistant vests aren't armored much (if at all) at the upper shoulder/collar bone area, so again that's also another factor to consider (hit location). StanTheMan 19:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I would say the 5.56x45mm has the possibility to go through the hostage and the gunman. It looked to me like it hit the collar area. I think the shot is possible if the bullet misses bone and just rips through the muscle. This also allows for the hostage to be in treatable condition after the fire-fight, if it hit the collar bone, the hostage would be anything but okay. But with an MP5, (If I were holding it) I wouldn't try any shots AT the body armor. I'd hold out for a head shot. Most gunmen have no way to armor one's face and head. It's better for the hostage, too. --Camden Hennis 23:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Oddly Accurate Politician Goof-up
During the press conference following the failed extraction attempt by Montel's goons, the weapons used during the attack on the DOC boss are referred to as "AK-47s." The only weapons discharged during that scene are the .45ACP pistols used by the SWAT officers, a 9mm handgun, and a 9mm machine pistol. Then again, many of us have heard a particular politician refer to a barrel shroud as a "shoulder thing that goes up," so it seems oddly fitting that one would incorrectly identify the weapons used in a violent shootout with police. (Especially since AK-47s are scarier than handguns.) Atypicaloracle 05:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- Even more justified considering this film takes place in ignorant, gun-hating California. -Anonymous
- The worst part about it, is it's the police chief that misidentifies the weapons. Furthermore, how does one mistake a Beretta 92FS with a suppressor for an AK-47? --Camden Hennis 23:13, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
the only thing i find funny is that the 92FS is used by the LAPD!?! scarecrow 11:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- How so? It is issued by LAPD. Or, do you mean because he should at least have a passing familiarity with it and not call it an "AK-47". --Maxman (talk) 22:04, 7 March 2017 (EST)
It was not the Chief of Police, Fuller's just the captain of the Metro Division. I think Fuller just called the TEC-9 a AK-47 to make the officers' action sounds more heroic, thereby making him look good too. It's funny when he said it's a AK-47, the Sheriff deputy beside him gave him a strange look.--Wildcards 12:16, 16 March 2011 (CDT)
Claymore Explosive Power?
When Jim Street sets up the Claymore to blow the door off at the end, does the claymore have that much power? As far as I know, the Claymore is a small charge that detonates throwing 700 Ball Bearings out, would the charge be enough to blow the door? Would it prouce that bright orange flame? Would it detonate when Jim shoots it with the Kimber Custom? - User:Theocd 16th October 2010
an M18A1 Claymore's explosion is from C4 inside the Claymore. and Jim just shot the primer that would have been tripped if LL Cool Jay tripped the wire.
The charge of Claymore is quite heavy, while the majority of the damage done on detonation is through shrapnel, the charge itself would be more than enough to destroy the door. They can do considerably damage to vehicles at point blank. As the for the Flash, it would likely be redish, and visible in low light level. As for the primer trip from a direct bullet hit, it depend completely on what specific damage the bullet does to the primer or trip.
Pulp Fiction reference
At about 1:03 in the movie after Montel is busted out by the fake cops and shootout has ended, Montel slashes at Street with some glass, Hondo rushes over and holds his Kimber to the guys head and says "Move again, MOVE AGAIN!" in an obvious reference to the "Say what again" part from Pulp Fiction right down to the M1911.
Quick Question on old SWAT weapons
Before the 90's, were any of these weapons used by SWAT teams back then?: Browning Hi-Power, Colt Commander, Smith & Wesson Model 39, Smith & Wesson Model 19, Smith & Wesson 3000, M1 carbine, M14 rifle, M3 Grease Gun, Smith & Wesson M76, Uzi, Beretta M12, AR-18, Heckler & Koch HK33?
Kimber jam
I think this one should be added. I rewatched the scene where Street and TJ were competing and when they switched to their Kimbers, the last second before they stopped firing, I noticed TJ's gun jam, looks like a double feed, and the actor kept firing and made no attempts to clear it or notice it was jammed. Excalibur01 19:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)
Look like it locked empty to me --Taurus96 (talk) 15:51, 29 December 2012 (EST)
No, it's a double feed or an in line stove pipe because I see it inside. Look closer Excalibur01 (talk) 16:04, 29 December 2012 (EST)
Take a look
Whoops, my mistake lol. I guess the casing blended into the background for me. Nice spot :) --Taurus96 (talk) 18:11, 1 January 2013 (EST)
When you've seen actual jams countless times, and the fact that on the big screen and when you watch it on DVD, the shot was so up close, it's hard to miss Excalibur01 (talk) 12:28, 2 January 2013 (EST)
Gun shop deleted scene
On my DVD copy, there's a deleted scene where two patrol officers go into a gun shop asking for "anything that will penetrate body armor" and are handed three 20" AR-15s. There are numerous other guns around the shop that are hard or impossible to ID, but I did notice at least one Winchester 1894 on a rack behind the counter. Spartan198 (talk) 23:07, 24 April 2020 (EDT)