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=Additional Variants= | =Additional Variants= | ||
[[File:ParaCommander.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PARA 1911 LTC - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[File:Nite-Tac Rail Model.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Para-Ordnance PXT Nite-Tac 1911 - .45 ACP]] | |||
[[File:Parahicap.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PARA Hi-Cap]] | |||
[[File:P14.45 LDA.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Para-Ordnance P14.45 LDA - .45 ACP]] | |||
[[File:Para Ordinance P-15 45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Para-Ordnance P15 - .40 S&W]] | |||
[[File:Para Ordinance P-16 40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Para-Ordnance P16 - .40 S&W]] | |||
[[File:ParaBlackOps.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Para Ordnance Black Ops 14.45 - .45 ACP]] | |||
[[File:Para-blackops-1445.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Para Ordnance Black Ops 14.45 - .45 ACP]] | |||
[[File:ParaBlackOps1911.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Para Ordnance Black Ops 1911 - .45 ACP]] | |||
[[File:Para Black Ops Combat.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Para Ordnance Black Ops Combat, note the high profile sights - .45 ACP]] | |||
[[File:Para Ordnance P10-45 Limited.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Para-Ordnance P10-45 Limited - .45 ACP]] | |||
==Screen Used== | ==Screen Used== | ||
[[ | [[File:BDSIIParas-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A pair of Para-Ordnance SSPs (.45 ACP) as used in ''[[The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day]]''. The weapons pictured here were the actual screen-used guns handled and fired by Clifton Collins, Jr. in the film; note the custom grips, golden suppressors, and "El Jefe" engraved into the slides. ''(Big thanks to [[Al Vrkljan]] at Movie Armaments Group for this IMFDB Exclusive image!)'']] | ||
[[ | [[File:ShootEmUp-HammersonNiteTac-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac (.45 ACP) used in ''[[Shoot 'Em Up]]''. The weapon pictured here is one of the actual screen-used guns from the film; note the engraved Hammerson logo. ''(Big thanks to [[Al Vrkljan]] at Movie Armaments Group for this IMFDB Exclusive image!)'']] | ||
[[File:KickAss2NiteTac.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Screen-used Para-Ordnance Nite-Tacs from ''[[Kick-Ass 2]]''. These were provided by Tarver Productions Ltd.]] | |||
[[File:ISS_10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The suppressed Para-Ordnance Black Ops 1911, carried by Christian Wolff ([[Ben Affleck]]) in the film ''[[The Accountant]]'', from Independent Studio Services. (Video from Vickers Tactical).]] | |||
=Discussion= | =Discussion= | ||
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What exactly does that mean? - [[User: 2wingo]] | What exactly does that mean? - [[User: 2wingo]] | ||
:It means that the magazine staggers the rounds contained within, increasing the capacity while keeping the same relative size. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 21:43, 18 December 2012 (EST) | |||
::Well, double stack magazines tend to be wider than single stacks. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 01:28, 19 December 2012 (EST) | |||
:::Yeah, I thought me saying "relative" would cover that. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 01:34, 19 December 2012 (EST) | |||
== Follow-Up Question == | |||
Are double-stacked magazines more prone to jamming than single-stack, or are they about the same? - [[User: 2wingo]] | |||
Nope. Most high-capacity 9mm handguns use double-stack magazines (The Beretta 92 series, all 9mm Glocks and SIG P22etc's). Some .45 pistols, like the H&K MK23 and the Straier Voight Infinity, also do. I'd assume with .45, because it's such a fat round, it's preferable to have single-stack magazines as it makes the profile of the pistol slimmer and easier to hold for all the non gigantically-handed among us. [[User:Phalanx|Phalanx]] ([[User talk:Phalanx|talk]]) 12:30, 22 December 2012 (EST) | |||
Technically, a double stack magazine is more likely to cause a jam, as when the round is stripped from the top as the mouth is wider it can be more prone to turning side ways and failing to feed. This is pretty negligible though, and the higher capacity far outweighs the slightly higher chance it will missfeed in my opinion. I have heard thogh that some Para Ornance magazine in particular can be very prone to jamming. I think it was to do with before the AWB came in they rushed out a load of 10+ capacity magazines and they ended up using a spring that was too weak causing misfeeds (apparently they would be very prone to misfeeding the last couple of rounds as the spring pressure was too weak, could be fixed by using a different spring though). Not sure if this is true, is just what I have heard. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:37, 23 December 2012 (EST) | |||
==My own Para Ordnance P14== | |||
[[File:ParaP14-45-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
[[File:ParaP14-45-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
Just picked it up today. For years, I've procrastinated on getting a 1911 - until now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 01:15, 17 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 18:43, 8 January 2023
Additional Variants
Screen Used
Discussion
"Double-Stack"
What exactly does that mean? - User: 2wingo
- It means that the magazine staggers the rounds contained within, increasing the capacity while keeping the same relative size. Jeddostotle7 (talk) 21:43, 18 December 2012 (EST)
- Well, double stack magazines tend to be wider than single stacks. --Funkychinaman (talk) 01:28, 19 December 2012 (EST)
- Yeah, I thought me saying "relative" would cover that. Jeddostotle7 (talk) 01:34, 19 December 2012 (EST)
- Well, double stack magazines tend to be wider than single stacks. --Funkychinaman (talk) 01:28, 19 December 2012 (EST)
Follow-Up Question
Are double-stacked magazines more prone to jamming than single-stack, or are they about the same? - User: 2wingo
Nope. Most high-capacity 9mm handguns use double-stack magazines (The Beretta 92 series, all 9mm Glocks and SIG P22etc's). Some .45 pistols, like the H&K MK23 and the Straier Voight Infinity, also do. I'd assume with .45, because it's such a fat round, it's preferable to have single-stack magazines as it makes the profile of the pistol slimmer and easier to hold for all the non gigantically-handed among us. Phalanx (talk) 12:30, 22 December 2012 (EST)
Technically, a double stack magazine is more likely to cause a jam, as when the round is stripped from the top as the mouth is wider it can be more prone to turning side ways and failing to feed. This is pretty negligible though, and the higher capacity far outweighs the slightly higher chance it will missfeed in my opinion. I have heard thogh that some Para Ornance magazine in particular can be very prone to jamming. I think it was to do with before the AWB came in they rushed out a load of 10+ capacity magazines and they ended up using a spring that was too weak causing misfeeds (apparently they would be very prone to misfeeding the last couple of rounds as the spring pressure was too weak, could be fixed by using a different spring though). Not sure if this is true, is just what I have heard. --commando552 (talk) 13:37, 23 December 2012 (EST)
My own Para Ordnance P14
Just picked it up today. For years, I've procrastinated on getting a 1911 - until now. -MT2008 (talk) 01:15, 17 December 2022 (UTC)