Talk:Jack Reacher (2012): Difference between revisions
Talk:Jack Reacher (2012): Difference between revisions - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games
Talk:Jack Reacher (2012): Difference between revisions
Please help with weapons --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 17:52, 11 December 2012 (EST)
Please help with weapons --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 17:52, 11 December 2012 (EST)
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HK417 with PRS? -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]] ([[User talk:The Winchester|talk]])
:Yeah my immediate thought, based solely on the shape of the mag and stock mind you, was the 417 but can't be absolutely sure. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 20:28, 11 December 2012 (EST)
::Look at the combined forward assist and brass deflector, that is a DPMS feature. My guess is a DPMS NATO REPR, seems like a pretty close match:[[File:RFLR-REPR.jpg|thumb|450px|none|DPMS NATO REPR - 7,62x51mm]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:46, 12 December 2012 (EST)
It could just be a any variant of the AR-10 with what looks like a Magpul PMAG [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:44, 26 December 2012 (EST)
:I think the design of the combined forward assists and brass deflector makes it definitely a DPMS upper though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:09, 27 December 2012 (EST)
:And not only that, the 417 isn't compatible with PMAGs, because then HK wouldn't be able to sell any of their overpriced proprietary 417 mags. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:16, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
The Rifle is PWS MK2 series ? MK216 or MK220 ? --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 21:54, 11 May 2016 (JST)
[[Image:ReacherSniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Charlie aims his rifle. It does not look like the shape of the lower receiver, Trigger guard and hand guard ?]]
[[Image:PWS-MK216.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Primary Weapons Systems MK216 - 7.62x51mm]]
:Looks like a match to me, especially the handguard. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:09, 11 May 2016 (EDT)
:I think it is a .22 Ruger semiautomatic with custom silencer. -[[User:Roman|Roman]]
::I think it may actually be a Ruger 22/45 Lite. Note the fact that there is no join between the barrel and the receiver of the pistol, and the fluted barrel. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:17, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
What is the gun in the poster? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:44, 26 December 2012 (EST)
:No, its used by Jai's character. The sound effects in the movie put it in the lower-caliber range. My above guess remains. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]] ([[User talk:The Winchester|talk]])
== Release date ==
I just want to remind everyone that the official US release date for this film is May 7th, still two weeks away. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:35, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
:: Aw, crap, again. This was already released in Region 2 like 2 days ago... What shall be done for my screencaps? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 09:39, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
:::We can leave them be and just roll back the changes for now. We put everything back after May 7th. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:41, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
::::Ok, thanks. I was hoping that would happen. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 09:46, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
:::::I've locked the page. Hopefully, we can just undo my undo in two weeks. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:49, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
== M1A ==
A few of the M1A caps show a notch in the stock for a selector switch. I don't think M1As have those, do they? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 07:29, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
:I haven't seen the film so am just going off of the caps, but it appears that there are two different M1As used in the film. The first is the one with the camo stock in the first load of screencaps, which has a notched stock, no selector and no bayonet lug. I believe that early model M1As had the notched stock, or it could be an after market stock that is compatible with the M14 as well, but as it lacks the selector switch itself it is an M1A. The second gun with the plain wood stock is a bit more of mystery, as (although having no selector switch making it an M1A) it has the combination of an un-notched stock and a bayonet lug. The bayonet lug was deleted due to the the assault weapons ban in 1994 so the very first M1As had them, however the stock was not changed to the un-notched one until the late 1990s, so either the FSB or stock has been switched to make this gun. Also just to add, the M21 DMR image that is on the page is actually an M1A as well, as that lacks the selector switch. Genuine M21s had the selector, but it was locked in the semi position. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:39, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
::I haven't seen it either, I'm just going off of the caps as well. We should probably get a new image for the M21 if that's not an actual M21. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:40, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
== Werner Herzog ==
Good God Werner Herzog is creepy in this film. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 23:02, 14 June 2013 (EDT)
== Sniper Roll ==
Why does Tom Cruise do the roll before shooting at the range? Is that a common thing for long-distance shooting?--Qtrain 22:28, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
I was wondering this too, but from what I can tell it's so he can roll into a more stable and natural firing position without shifting around on his stomach, basically conforming naturally while on his back so it fits much more snugly and less intrusive for when he's going to be firing from prone
==Removed comment==
The removed comment was "This is somewhat unusual for an on-duty law enforcement officer." My answer is that plenty of departments would issue handguns according to the size of the officer's hands. A buddy of mine had a Glock 23 as his on duty gun. I would also point out that Emerson is a Detective and usually they carry whatever they want as long as its department approved, mostly compact handguns. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 21:29, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
:I thought the comment referred to the fact that he was carrying it IWB, not the model of the gun. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:03, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
::Really? I didn't think anything of it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:57, 22 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Well, if I were a plainclothes detective, I'd certainly go OWB or a paddle holster for a service weapon. You may be in plainclothes, but you're not really concealing the fact that you're a cop. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 09:34, 22 October 2013 (EDT)
== Victim's father's Colt Government ==
That looks like a standard M1911A1 with Rampant Colt grips and a ring hammer. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 19:50, 18 June 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:JRColt.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the GI sights and safety as well as the ring hammer, more visible if zoomed in.]]
Yeah my immediate thought, based solely on the shape of the mag and stock mind you, was the 417 but can't be absolutely sure. --Charon68 (talk) 20:28, 11 December 2012 (EST)
Look at the combined forward assist and brass deflector, that is a DPMS feature. My guess is a DPMS NATO REPR, seems like a pretty close match:Error creating thumbnail: File missingDPMS NATO REPR - 7,62x51mm--commando552 (talk) 14:46, 12 December 2012 (EST)
It could just be a any variant of the AR-10 with what looks like a Magpul PMAG Excalibur01 (talk) 23:44, 26 December 2012 (EST)
I think the design of the combined forward assists and brass deflector makes it definitely a DPMS upper though. --commando552 (talk) 04:09, 27 December 2012 (EST)
And not only that, the 417 isn't compatible with PMAGs, because then HK wouldn't be able to sell any of their overpriced proprietary 417 mags. Spartan198 (talk) 07:16, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
The Rifle is PWS MK2 series ? MK216 or MK220 ? --KINKI'boy (talk) 21:54, 11 May 2016 (JST)
I think it is a .22 Ruger semiautomatic with custom silencer. -Roman
I think it may actually be a Ruger 22/45 Lite. Note the fact that there is no join between the barrel and the receiver of the pistol, and the fluted barrel. --commando552 (talk) 09:17, 6 May 2013 (EDT)
What is the gun in the poster? Excalibur01 (talk) 23:44, 26 December 2012 (EST)
No, its used by Jai's character. The sound effects in the movie put it in the lower-caliber range. My above guess remains. -The Winchester (talk)
Release date
I just want to remind everyone that the official US release date for this film is May 7th, still two weeks away. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:35, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
Aw, crap, again. This was already released in Region 2 like 2 days ago... What shall be done for my screencaps? --Warejaws (talk) 09:39, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
We can leave them be and just roll back the changes for now. We put everything back after May 7th. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:41, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
Ok, thanks. I was hoping that would happen. --Warejaws (talk) 09:46, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
I've locked the page. Hopefully, we can just undo my undo in two weeks. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:49, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
M1A
A few of the M1A caps show a notch in the stock for a selector switch. I don't think M1As have those, do they? --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:29, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
I haven't seen the film so am just going off of the caps, but it appears that there are two different M1As used in the film. The first is the one with the camo stock in the first load of screencaps, which has a notched stock, no selector and no bayonet lug. I believe that early model M1As had the notched stock, or it could be an after market stock that is compatible with the M14 as well, but as it lacks the selector switch itself it is an M1A. The second gun with the plain wood stock is a bit more of mystery, as (although having no selector switch making it an M1A) it has the combination of an un-notched stock and a bayonet lug. The bayonet lug was deleted due to the the assault weapons ban in 1994 so the very first M1As had them, however the stock was not changed to the un-notched one until the late 1990s, so either the FSB or stock has been switched to make this gun. Also just to add, the M21 DMR image that is on the page is actually an M1A as well, as that lacks the selector switch. Genuine M21s had the selector, but it was locked in the semi position. --commando552 (talk) 08:39, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
I haven't seen it either, I'm just going off of the caps as well. We should probably get a new image for the M21 if that's not an actual M21. --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:40, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
Werner Herzog
Good God Werner Herzog is creepy in this film. --Funkychinaman (talk) 23:02, 14 June 2013 (EDT)
Sniper Roll
Why does Tom Cruise do the roll before shooting at the range? Is that a common thing for long-distance shooting?--Qtrain 22:28, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
I was wondering this too, but from what I can tell it's so he can roll into a more stable and natural firing position without shifting around on his stomach, basically conforming naturally while on his back so it fits much more snugly and less intrusive for when he's going to be firing from prone
Removed comment
The removed comment was "This is somewhat unusual for an on-duty law enforcement officer." My answer is that plenty of departments would issue handguns according to the size of the officer's hands. A buddy of mine had a Glock 23 as his on duty gun. I would also point out that Emerson is a Detective and usually they carry whatever they want as long as its department approved, mostly compact handguns. Excalibur01 (talk) 21:29, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
I thought the comment referred to the fact that he was carrying it IWB, not the model of the gun. --Funkychinaman (talk) 22:03, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
Really? I didn't think anything of it. Excalibur01 (talk) 00:57, 22 October 2013 (EDT)
Well, if I were a plainclothes detective, I'd certainly go OWB or a paddle holster for a service weapon. You may be in plainclothes, but you're not really concealing the fact that you're a cop. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:34, 22 October 2013 (EDT)
Victim's father's Colt Government
That looks like a standard M1911A1 with Rampant Colt grips and a ring hammer. --Maxman (talk) 19:50, 18 June 2016 (EDT)
