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==Unidentified Weapons==
==Unidentified Weapons==
At least one of the "sniper rifles" looks like a M-1 carbine variant fitted out with a scope and a venilated barrel shroud of some sort. The unidentified shotgun looks like a cutdown Winchester 1897.  And the unidentified LMG is obviously an L7. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:14, 7 November 2012 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 05:27, 8 November 2012 (EST)
At least one of the "sniper rifles" looks like a M-1 carbine variant fitted out with a scope and a venilated barrel shroud of some sort. The unidentified shotgun looks like a cutdown Winchester 1897.  And the unidentified LMG is obviously an L7. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 21:14, 7 November 2012 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 05:27, 8 November 2012 (EST) Detailed images to better determines the type of rifle.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 19:05, 8 November 2012 (EST)


[[File:SniperR-DMI-6a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:SniperR-DMI-6b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:SniperR-DMI-8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
I think they are all modified M1 carbines. The top one has an MP40 style underfolding stock, like [http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/Universalpt.jpg this] one.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:22, 8 November 2012 (EST) Super! Thx. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 19:45, 8 November 2012 (EST)
:The M1 Carbine with the tiger stripes appears to be the same one used in ''[[Thirteen at Dinner]]'', also shot in England. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:08, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
== Smith & Wesson Model 36 ==
== Smith & Wesson Model 36 ==
From the size of the snubnose revolvers in those screencaps I would say it's more likely they are using [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] snubbies. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 21:30, 7 November 2012 (EST) It's true. On the site it says only that wears Smith & Wesson .38 caliber, nothing about the model. Thx!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 21:46, 7 November 2012 (EST)
From the size of the snubnose revolvers in those screencaps I would say it's more likely they are using [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] snubbies. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 21:30, 7 November 2012 (EST) It's true. On the site it says only that wears Smith & Wesson .38 caliber, nothing about the model. Thx!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 21:46, 7 November 2012 (EST)
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[[File:Thug-Revolver-DMII-10.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:Thug-Revolver-DMII-10.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
- [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:08, 8 November 2012 (EST)
- [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:08, 8 November 2012 (EST)
== Unidentified revolvers ==
[[File:P-Revolver-DMI-1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Gangster disguised as a policeman shoots of an unidentified revolver in pilot of TV series.]]
[[File:MM-Revolver-DMI-7.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Marshall ([[Michael Melia]]) holds a woman as hostage in 6th episode of 1st season called ''Nowhere to Run''.]]
[[File:M Melia-R-DMI-7.jpg|thumb|501px|none|At escape shows an unidentified revolver in his hand.]]


:You are right about the P210, but for the revolver it looks like there is a lug at the end of the ejector rod and looks to have a S&W style cylinder release so I'm more inclined to think it is a [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]]: [[File:S&WModel15.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:51, 8 November 2012 (EST) Yes, Commando552 have a right.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 11:16, 8 November 2012 (EST)
:You are right about the P210, but for the revolver it looks like there is a lug at the end of the ejector rod and looks to have a S&W style cylinder release so I'm more inclined to think it is a [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]]: [[File:S&WModel15.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:51, 8 November 2012 (EST) Yes, Commando552 have a right.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 11:16, 8 November 2012 (EST)


[[File:Revolver-DMII-7a.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 15 - .38 Specialin Dempsey and Makepeace]]
[[File:Revolver-DMII-7a.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 15 - .38 Specialin Dempsey and Makepeace]]
 
:The guy with the orange boilersuit as a S&W 15 as well. You can see the S&W-style cylinder latch. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:09, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
== Thank you... ==
== Thank you... ==


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== Uzi and other things ==
== Uzi and other things ==
The first screenshot you have in the Uzi section is actually a Mini-Uzi. I have the DVD, and I remember seeing the wire, side folding stock in that scene. In your screenshot, notice that the stock is being used as forward grip. I believe the Mini-Uzi also makes a few brief appearances in other episodes. Nick Brimble is seen using an Ithaca shotgun with custom wire folding stock in ''The Bogeyman'', which is most likely the exact same shotgun used in [[Professionals_(TV_Series),_The#Ithaca_37_Shotgun|The Professionals]]. I also recall seeing a Mini-14 in ''Bird of Prey''--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 11:52, 8 November 2012 (EST)
The first screenshot you have in the Uzi section is actually a Mini-Uzi. I have the DVD, and I remember seeing the wire, side folding stock in that scene. In your screenshot, notice that the stock is being used as forward grip. I believe the Mini-Uzi also makes a few brief appearances in other episodes. Nick Brimble is seen using an Ithaca shotgun with custom wire folding stock in ''The Bogeyman'', which is most likely the exact same shotgun used in [[Professionals_(TV_Series),_The#Ithaca_37_Shotgun|The Professionals]]. I also recall seeing a Mini-14 in ''Bird of Prey''--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 11:52, 8 November 2012 (EST) Thx for Ithaca 37!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 16:14, 8 November 2012 (EST)


== Grenade ID ==
== Grenade ID ==


Do you have any more pics of what is currently listed as an M26 hand grenade. From the shape of the spoon (lever on the side) I think it might be a [[Schermuly Training Grenade]]. This ID also makes sense for a British TV show in the 80s. [[File:Schermuly Training Grenade.jpg|thumb|200px|none|Schermuly Training Grenade]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:31, 8 November 2012 (EST)
Do you have any more pics of what is currently listed as an M26 hand grenade. From the shape of the spoon (lever on the side) I think it might be a [[Schermuly Training Grenade]]. This ID also makes sense for a British TV show in the 80s. [[File:Schermuly Training Grenade.jpg|thumb|200px|none|Schermuly Training Grenade]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:31, 8 November 2012 (EST)
== Harry Makepeace's pocket pistol ==
I think that [[Dempsey_and_Makepeace#French_Unique_Model_10|this pistol]] is a [[Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket]] rather than Unique. It has more smooth and rounded shape than Unique pistol. Also Unique pistols are rarely seen in not-French films. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 23:49, 25 December 2013 (EST) It was initially thought when the problem arose with the switch above her index finger. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 02:05, 26 December 2013 (EST)
[[File:Detail-pocket1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:Detail-pocket2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
== Colt Python/Diamondback ==
The Snubnose Colt Python looks more like the Diamondback (bottom) to me because of the trigger guard. Also, in films ( not really TV though ) the Diamondback is often used as a police piece. -[[User:SeptemberJack|SeptemberJack]] ([[User talk:SeptemberJack|talk]]) 18:56, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
[[File:Coltpython25.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Python Snub Nose with 2.5" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[File:NYPD-R-DMI-pilot-1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Note the not completely round trigger guard, found on the Diamondback but not on the Python.]]
[[File:Colt Diamondback (.38 Special) (2.5 Inch).jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Diamondback with a 2.5 Inch barrel - .38 Special]]

Latest revision as of 23:09, 24 May 2017

Unidentified Weapons

At least one of the "sniper rifles" looks like a M-1 carbine variant fitted out with a scope and a venilated barrel shroud of some sort. The unidentified shotgun looks like a cutdown Winchester 1897. And the unidentified LMG is obviously an L7. --Charon68 (talk) 21:14, 7 November 2012 (EST) Thx very much!--Pandolfini (talk) 05:27, 8 November 2012 (EST) Detailed images to better determines the type of rifle.--Pandolfini (talk) 19:05, 8 November 2012 (EST)

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I think they are all modified M1 carbines. The top one has an MP40 style underfolding stock, like this one.--commando552 (talk) 19:22, 8 November 2012 (EST) Super! Thx. --Pandolfini (talk) 19:45, 8 November 2012 (EST)

The M1 Carbine with the tiger stripes appears to be the same one used in Thirteen at Dinner, also shot in England. --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:08, 24 May 2017 (EDT)

Smith & Wesson Model 36

From the size of the snubnose revolvers in those screencaps I would say it's more likely they are using Smith & Wesson Model 10 snubbies. --Jcordell (talk) 21:30, 7 November 2012 (EST) It's true. On the site it says only that wears Smith & Wesson .38 caliber, nothing about the model. Thx!--Pandolfini (talk) 21:46, 7 November 2012 (EST)

Okay. I'd say from looking at it they're using a K frame S&W revolver rather than the much smaller S&W J frame revolver.--Jcordell (talk) 23:16, 7 November 2012 (EST)

SACM M1935A

This pistol looks more like SIG P210.

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SIG P210 - 9x19mm
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The 3rd unidentified revolver is similar to Colt Trooper.

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Colt Trooper - .357 Magnum.
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- Greg-Z (talk) 08:08, 8 November 2012 (EST)

Unidentified revolvers

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Gangster disguised as a policeman shoots of an unidentified revolver in pilot of TV series.
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Marshall (Michael Melia) holds a woman as hostage in 6th episode of 1st season called Nowhere to Run.
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At escape shows an unidentified revolver in his hand.
You are right about the P210, but for the revolver it looks like there is a lug at the end of the ejector rod and looks to have a S&W style cylinder release so I'm more inclined to think it is a Smith & Wesson Model 15:
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Smith & Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special
--commando552 (talk) 08:51, 8 November 2012 (EST) Yes, Commando552 have a right.--Pandolfini (talk) 11:16, 8 November 2012 (EST)
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Smith & Wesson Model 15 - .38 Specialin Dempsey and Makepeace
The guy with the orange boilersuit as a S&W 15 as well. You can see the S&W-style cylinder latch. --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2017 (EDT)

Thank you...

Thanks a bunch for adding this page to IMFDB! The series is a fond childhood memory of mine, not in the least because of Glynis Barber. There's someting about women with guns :-) I took the liberty to clean up the English a bit, I must say that I am not a native speaker myself but some sentences looked really strange. About the unidentified pocket pistol, my first thought was a Colt Mustang but seeing that this model was not produced until 1986 (one year after the 1st series) I might be wrong. Can you please also remember to make references to the relevant gun pages on this page? I don't have time to do that myself, sorry, --PeeWee055 (talk) 08:55, 8 November 2012 (EST) Thank you very much! I still need your service, because I need commented on many other chapters and my helper is only "Google Translator". These links to weapons gradually do.--Pandolfini (talk) 10:25, 8 November 2012 (EST)

Uzi and other things

The first screenshot you have in the Uzi section is actually a Mini-Uzi. I have the DVD, and I remember seeing the wire, side folding stock in that scene. In your screenshot, notice that the stock is being used as forward grip. I believe the Mini-Uzi also makes a few brief appearances in other episodes. Nick Brimble is seen using an Ithaca shotgun with custom wire folding stock in The Bogeyman, which is most likely the exact same shotgun used in The Professionals. I also recall seeing a Mini-14 in Bird of Prey--Phillb36 (talk) 11:52, 8 November 2012 (EST) Thx for Ithaca 37!--Pandolfini (talk) 16:14, 8 November 2012 (EST)

Grenade ID

Do you have any more pics of what is currently listed as an M26 hand grenade. From the shape of the spoon (lever on the side) I think it might be a Schermuly Training Grenade. This ID also makes sense for a British TV show in the 80s.

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Schermuly Training Grenade

--commando552 (talk) 13:31, 8 November 2012 (EST)

Harry Makepeace's pocket pistol

I think that this pistol is a Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket rather than Unique. It has more smooth and rounded shape than Unique pistol. Also Unique pistols are rarely seen in not-French films. Greg-Z (talk) 23:49, 25 December 2013 (EST) It was initially thought when the problem arose with the switch above her index finger. --Pandolfini (talk) 02:05, 26 December 2013 (EST)

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Colt Python/Diamondback

The Snubnose Colt Python looks more like the Diamondback (bottom) to me because of the trigger guard. Also, in films ( not really TV though ) the Diamondback is often used as a police piece. -SeptemberJack (talk) 18:56, 24 May 2017 (EDT)

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Colt Python Snub Nose with 2.5" barrel - .357 Magnum
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Note the not completely round trigger guard, found on the Diamondback but not on the Python.
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Colt Diamondback with a 2.5 Inch barrel - .38 Special