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=Rifle in Background ID= | |||
Please help ID the rifle seen in the background. It's got a straight bolt action like a Savage, but I don't know. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:27, 6 December 2012 (EST) | |||
It's a Mauser 98 action; possibly a commercial sporter judging by the scope bases on the receiver.--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 15:05, 1 January 2013 (EST) | |||
[[File:Lawless 30.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The bolt action rifle seen in the background..]] | |||
[[File:LawlessRilfes.jpg|thumb|none|700px|another shot.]] | |||
I don't know about the rifle in the background, but the rifle in the top picture foreground that is identified as a Remington Rolling Block I think is wrong. Take a look at other pictures of the Remington Rolling Block on this website, none of them are that dainty. | |||
I suspect the gun seen is a Stevens Favorite, which uses a very similar single shot mechanism (falling block rather than rolling IIRC) and was available in 22LR, 32 Rimfire, and a few other 'small game' power rounds. | |||
http://s394.beta.photobucket.com/user/toddbrsd/media/Vintage%20Rifles/P1010001.jpg.html | |||
http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_info/Gunsmithing_Stevens_favorite.htm | |||
It's too bad the picture isn't of good enough quality and angle to see the distinctive trigger guard's extra lever on the back. | |||
One of the rifles they are wielding looks like a Winchester 1873?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 18:03, 30 July 2013 (EDT) | |||
==Unknown Rifles== | |||
[[File:LawlessBrowingAuto5.jpg|thumb|none|550px|.]] | |||
==Dynamite== | |||
Dynamite of unknown manufacturer and model can be seen in a trailer. | |||
[[File:LawlessDynamite.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The Dynamite.]] | |||
==Promo Image== | |||
In this image you can see the guns that the main characters use: [[File:Lawless Guns.jpg|none|400px|thumb|]] | In this image you can see the guns that the main characters use: [[File:Lawless Guns.jpg|none|400px|thumb|]] | ||
Not sure what gun they actually use in the movie is, but the revolver pictured for Howard is not a [[Webley .38 Mk IV]], but is the earlier [[Webley .455 Mk VI]] (you can tell by the front sight blade and by the separate holster guide and cylinder cam rather than the one piece one used on the later revolvers). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 08:25, 13 August 2012 (CDT) | Not sure what gun they actually use in the movie is, but the revolver pictured for Howard is not a [[Webley .38 Mk IV]], but is the earlier [[Webley .455 Mk VI]] (you can tell by the front sight blade and by the separate holster guide and cylinder cam rather than the one piece one used on the later revolvers). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 08:25, 13 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
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::Zooming in, it looks like my .455 Webley MkIV (which lacks the hump at the top of the grip like the MkVI; mine has the bird's head grip like the MkV). Since the top of the grip in the pictute has the hump, I'll call it a Webley and a MkVI. Ain't saying I'm always right, but on this one I am pretty sure. --[[User:Carl N. Brown|Carl N. Brown]] 07:04, 4 September 2012 (CDT) | ::Zooming in, it looks like my .455 Webley MkIV (which lacks the hump at the top of the grip like the MkVI; mine has the bird's head grip like the MkV). Since the top of the grip in the pictute has the hump, I'll call it a Webley and a MkVI. Ain't saying I'm always right, but on this one I am pretty sure. --[[User:Carl N. Brown|Carl N. Brown]] 07:04, 4 September 2012 (CDT) | ||
==Additional Screenshots== | |||
[[File:LawLessColtDSSpecial.jpg|none|500px|thumb|The nickel Colt Detective Special in the second trailer.]] | |||
[[File:LawlessM1911A1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The M1911A1 being chambered.]] | |||
[[File:LawlessM1911A1(2).jpg|thumb|none|550px|]] | |||
==Your Opinion== | ==Your Opinion== | ||
From the critics reactions to the film seems to be splitting people, for those | From the critics reactions to the film seems to be splitting people, for those who have already seen it what do you think?--[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 01:26, 30 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
Eh, it was decent. There were some brutal scenes in there that didn't scimp on the gore but the shootouts weren't anything impressive. The ending gun battle was the most awkward looking firefight I've ever scene. Not bad but not great either. [[User:ShootingLiberal|ShootingLiberal]] 08:57, 4 September 2012 (CDT) | Eh, it was decent. There were some brutal scenes in there that didn't scimp on the gore but the shootouts weren't anything impressive. The ending gun battle was the most awkward looking firefight I've ever scene. Not bad but not great either. [[User:ShootingLiberal|ShootingLiberal]] 08:57, 4 September 2012 (CDT) | ||
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== Unknown Shotguns == | == Unknown Shotguns == | ||
I'm pretty sure that the first unknown shotgun is a Winchester Model 12, and the 2nd one looks like it could be too. | I'm pretty sure that the first unknown shotgun is a Winchester Model 12, and the 2nd one looks like it could be too. [[User:Desertrat17|Desertrat17]] ([[User talk:Desertrat17|talk]]) 18:35, 25 September 2012 (EDT)Desertrat17 | ||
[[File:LawlessUnknownShotgun.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]] | |||
== Colt Buntline Special == | |||
The Colt SAA has a barrel clearly longer than 7.5" (at least 10 or 12"). Thus, it is a "Buntline Special". I've modified the page [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] ([[User talk:Rafa|talk]]) 15:15, 10 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:LL-saa2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrel is longer than 7.5".]] | |||
== Anachronistic holster == | |||
I don't know when was designed the thumb break, but I doubt that it was available in 1931 [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] ([[User talk:Rafa|talk]]) 15:22, 10 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:LL-sw10a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A thumb break holster in 1931?.]] | |||
:Well spotted. Bianchi claims it, and certainly popularized it as a police safety device. Invented 1960, first cataloged 1966. Patents by others before this go back as early... '57. So apparently was not at all a thing in the 30s. | |||
:[[User:Shoobe01|Shoobe01]] ([[User talk:Shoobe01|talk]]) 23:36, 14 February 2022 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 04:36, 15 February 2022
Rifle in Background ID
Please help ID the rifle seen in the background. It's got a straight bolt action like a Savage, but I don't know. --Ben41 (talk) 21:27, 6 December 2012 (EST)
It's a Mauser 98 action; possibly a commercial sporter judging by the scope bases on the receiver.--Stomper (talk) 15:05, 1 January 2013 (EST)
I don't know about the rifle in the background, but the rifle in the top picture foreground that is identified as a Remington Rolling Block I think is wrong. Take a look at other pictures of the Remington Rolling Block on this website, none of them are that dainty.
I suspect the gun seen is a Stevens Favorite, which uses a very similar single shot mechanism (falling block rather than rolling IIRC) and was available in 22LR, 32 Rimfire, and a few other 'small game' power rounds.
http://s394.beta.photobucket.com/user/toddbrsd/media/Vintage%20Rifles/P1010001.jpg.html
http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_info/Gunsmithing_Stevens_favorite.htm
It's too bad the picture isn't of good enough quality and angle to see the distinctive trigger guard's extra lever on the back.
One of the rifles they are wielding looks like a Winchester 1873?--Balin21 (talk) 18:03, 30 July 2013 (EDT)
Unknown Rifles
Dynamite
Dynamite of unknown manufacturer and model can be seen in a trailer.
Promo Image
In this image you can see the guns that the main characters use:
Not sure what gun they actually use in the movie is, but the revolver pictured for Howard is not a Webley .38 Mk IV, but is the earlier Webley .455 Mk VI (you can tell by the front sight blade and by the separate holster guide and cylinder cam rather than the one piece one used on the later revolvers). --commando552 08:25, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
- The Colt DS is also flipped, with the cylinder release on the right instead of the left side of the gun. --Funkychinaman 08:50, 13 August 2012 (CDT)
- In the new trailer and the extra material the colt can be spotted.--Dillinger 03:19, 14 August 2012 (CDT)
Break-Open Revolver
Could this possibly be Howard's Webley from the poster above? Czar
- i was about asking that.--Dillinger 01:13, 30 August 2012 (CDT)
- Zooming in, it looks like my .455 Webley MkIV (which lacks the hump at the top of the grip like the MkVI; mine has the bird's head grip like the MkV). Since the top of the grip in the pictute has the hump, I'll call it a Webley and a MkVI. Ain't saying I'm always right, but on this one I am pretty sure. --Carl N. Brown 07:04, 4 September 2012 (CDT)
Additional Screenshots
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Your Opinion
From the critics reactions to the film seems to be splitting people, for those who have already seen it what do you think?--Dillinger 01:26, 30 August 2012 (CDT)
Eh, it was decent. There were some brutal scenes in there that didn't scimp on the gore but the shootouts weren't anything impressive. The ending gun battle was the most awkward looking firefight I've ever scene. Not bad but not great either. ShootingLiberal 08:57, 4 September 2012 (CDT)
- Several people seems to have a problem with the ending shootout--Dillinger (talk) 05:53, 6 September 2012 (EDT)
Unknown Shotguns
I'm pretty sure that the first unknown shotgun is a Winchester Model 12, and the 2nd one looks like it could be too. Desertrat17 (talk) 18:35, 25 September 2012 (EDT)Desertrat17
Colt Buntline Special
The Colt SAA has a barrel clearly longer than 7.5" (at least 10 or 12"). Thus, it is a "Buntline Special". I've modified the page Rafa (talk) 15:15, 10 March 2015 (EDT)
Anachronistic holster
I don't know when was designed the thumb break, but I doubt that it was available in 1931 Rafa (talk) 15:22, 10 March 2015 (EDT)
