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Love that the Americans in this movie use German and Czech weapons... or antique German weapons mocked up to look like an American weapon. Classic. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 13:05, 16 March 2012 (CDT) | Love that the Americans in this movie use German and Czech weapons... or antique German weapons mocked up to look like an American weapon. Classic. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 13:05, 16 March 2012 (CDT) | ||
:The Ruskies probably had something similar to say about Chinese weapons and mocked up American vehicles standing in for their side's equipment in our movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:00, 31 March 2013 (EDT) | |||
:: Indeed. It's so funny to see like Hollywood showing Soviet/Russian Army [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] ([[User talk:Bednardos|talk]]) 20:41, 31 March 2013 (EET) | |||
== Poor Translation == | == Poor Translation == | ||
Одиночное Плавание (Odinochnoye Plavanie) is better translated as "Detached Mission" than as "Solo Voyage."[[User:Axeman|Axeman]] 17:18, 29 August 2012 (CDT) | Одиночное Плавание (Odinochnoye Plavanie) is better translated as "Detached Mission" than as "Solo Voyage."[[User:Axeman|Axeman]] 17:18, 29 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
:You're right. IMDb has it as "The Detached Mission" as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 17:50, 29 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
Plavanie is probably meant as navy deployment (it can both be military and civilian , when a civilian goes to sea on a ship it is usually said otpravlaetsa v plavanie) , I don't know the proper term for English naval military lingo, but its probably not mission. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:54, 31 March 2013 (EDT) | |||
== Flare gun == | |||
Flare gun, likely, [[Leuchtpistole]]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 02:02, 24 October 2015 (UTC+2) | |||
[[Image:Pistol German WW2 flare gun 'Leuchtpistole' Heeresmodell 1934, Code 'S-1938'.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Leuchtpistole - 26.65mm]] | |||
== Unknowns == | |||
== Unknown Pistol == | |||
One of the American guards tried to shoot the rogue American soldiers with this weapon, but was killed. It's also seen in the holsters of rogue American soldiers. | |||
== Unknown Russian Grenade == | |||
Used by one of Major Shatokin's squad members to take out two rogue American soldiers during the missile base scene. | |||
== How the hell the Russian got a G3 in the 80s? == | |||
The title says all.--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 10:27, 4 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
:50s battle rifles weren't exactly subject to stringent export controls, they could have got them from basically anywhere. Might even be arms intended for Afghanistan or somewhere like that. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:30, 4 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
::Now that I m thinking... cannot be a DDR copy? East Germany copied a lot of guns from the Western one.--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 10:36, 4 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
:::Indeed, very strange. How 1/5 of the land could get this junk. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 11:05, 4 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
::::What you mean?--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 04:22, 5 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
:::::Come on, dude. It's even funny to read (as well as about copies of the DDR, which, moreover, were supposed to appear in the alleged simultaneous absence of these things from another planet / reality, or what else you wanted to say by that). The world is actually not quite what it is told on TV. FN, Beretta, Heckler & Koch, and a number of others traded with everyone who paid. Even with South Africa, damn it. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 17:25, 24 December 2020 (EST) | |||
Most likely G3s appeared in USSR from Africa where they were used by Portuguese Army in Angola, Guinea and Mozambik. And no, G3 were never produced in DDR. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 05:35, 6 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 20:30, 28 July 2023
Russian RESPONSE to Rambo
This was the Soviet Cinema's RESPONSE to Rambo, not them copying Rambo. There is a difference. I heard about this movie when it first came out and figured it would have the same plodding pacing as I had seen in tons of Soviet cinema (talk about slow paced!). I never figured that the Russian moviemakers would make a fast paced cartoon action movie like Rambo: First Blood Pt II, and they didn't. It was paced like the Russian cinema of the time. But this was their way back at Hollywood. The Reds were the bad guy, all the way from Red Dawn (1984) to Invasion USA (1985). I remember that Stallone wanted to do a double feature, Solo Voyage AND Rambo: First Blood Part II since he thought it would be fun. But the Russians never released Solo Voyage in the West. It was an adventure tale with a 'red blooded' (no pun intended) Russian hero for Russian audiences. Even Rambo fans at the time thought it was cool. Even though people were suspicous of Russian movies, i.e. they tended to be dogmatic and boring ... a lot less flash and polish than Hollywood blockbusters. MPM2008
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Love that the Americans in this movie use German and Czech weapons... or antique German weapons mocked up to look like an American weapon. Classic. Atypicaloracle 13:05, 16 March 2012 (CDT)
- The Ruskies probably had something similar to say about Chinese weapons and mocked up American vehicles standing in for their side's equipment in our movies. Spartan198 (talk) 03:00, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
Poor Translation
Одиночное Плавание (Odinochnoye Plavanie) is better translated as "Detached Mission" than as "Solo Voyage."Axeman 17:18, 29 August 2012 (CDT)
- You're right. IMDb has it as "The Detached Mission" as well. --Funkychinaman 17:50, 29 August 2012 (CDT)
Plavanie is probably meant as navy deployment (it can both be military and civilian , when a civilian goes to sea on a ship it is usually said otpravlaetsa v plavanie) , I don't know the proper term for English naval military lingo, but its probably not mission. --Iceman (talk) 12:54, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
Flare gun
Flare gun, likely, Leuchtpistole. --Slon95 (talk) 02:02, 24 October 2015 (UTC+2)
Unknowns
Unknown Pistol
One of the American guards tried to shoot the rogue American soldiers with this weapon, but was killed. It's also seen in the holsters of rogue American soldiers.
Unknown Russian Grenade
Used by one of Major Shatokin's squad members to take out two rogue American soldiers during the missile base scene.
How the hell the Russian got a G3 in the 80s?
The title says all.--Dannyguns (talk) 10:27, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
- 50s battle rifles weren't exactly subject to stringent export controls, they could have got them from basically anywhere. Might even be arms intended for Afghanistan or somewhere like that. Evil Tim (talk) 10:30, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
- Now that I m thinking... cannot be a DDR copy? East Germany copied a lot of guns from the Western one.--Dannyguns (talk) 10:36, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
- Indeed, very strange. How 1/5 of the land could get this junk. --Slon95 (talk) 11:05, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
- What you mean?--Dannyguns (talk) 04:22, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
- Come on, dude. It's even funny to read (as well as about copies of the DDR, which, moreover, were supposed to appear in the alleged simultaneous absence of these things from another planet / reality, or what else you wanted to say by that). The world is actually not quite what it is told on TV. FN, Beretta, Heckler & Koch, and a number of others traded with everyone who paid. Even with South Africa, damn it. --Slon95 (talk) 17:25, 24 December 2020 (EST)
- What you mean?--Dannyguns (talk) 04:22, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
- Indeed, very strange. How 1/5 of the land could get this junk. --Slon95 (talk) 11:05, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
- Now that I m thinking... cannot be a DDR copy? East Germany copied a lot of guns from the Western one.--Dannyguns (talk) 10:36, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
Most likely G3s appeared in USSR from Africa where they were used by Portuguese Army in Angola, Guinea and Mozambik. And no, G3 were never produced in DDR. Greg-Z (talk) 05:35, 6 July 2018 (EDT)