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The description is deliberately vague to avoid needless spoilers. While fighting Makarov at the end is about as big a surprise as Mario fighting Bowser, it isn't really obvious from the image that the body is Soap (I deliberately didn't look at Soap so his name wouldn't appear and stood so you couldn't see anything distinctive) and I don't think it's really necessary to say it is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:29, 20 November 2011 (CST)
The description is deliberately vague to avoid needless spoilers. While fighting Makarov at the end is about as big a surprise as Mario fighting Bowser, it isn't really obvious from the image that the body is Soap (I deliberately didn't look at Soap so his name wouldn't appear and stood so you couldn't see anything distinctive) and I don't think it's really necessary to say it is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:29, 20 November 2011 (CST)


== editorial descriptors ==
== Southland ==
We are trying to discourage posters from posting commentary on an actor's gun handling skills, or lack of, on the movies main page. Our goal is to have the main movie page function more as an encyclopedia entry listing the firearms and some descriptors about the individual weapons used in the movie. Feel free to post your observations on the discussion pages however. As a result I reverted some of your commentary on Silence of the Lambs and Game of Shadows. Thanks for your cooperation.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 10:11, 1 January 2012 (CST)


: You've been told before about posting gun commentary and you're doing it again with the [[Southland]] pages.   If you continue to do this, you may be subject to a banning of editing privileges.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:18, 22 August 2012 (CDT)
Thanks for your contributions to the [[Southland]] pages. In the future, please keep your captions a little shorter.  The main point of the caption is to describe the weapon seen. There is no need to over explain every single plot point that pertains to the screenshot.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 17:37, 2 March 2013 (EST)
:Over-explaining won't happen again, but what's wrong with describing the context? People might do well to know *some* details if they see a screenshot of a cop laying on the ground firing his weapon. I won't spoil anything or over-explain, but is the policy to describe *nothing* but the weapon? [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] ([[User talk:Glock172|talk]]) 22:40, 2 March 2013 (EST)


::Forgive me if I was in violation, I've been trying to improve the Southland pages since I started watching. I don't remember exactly what was posted, but I'll refrain from commenting on actors' weapon handling skills. Can you refer me to the page that explains, or perhaps tell me yourself, what is "unqualified" gun commentary? I'm simply trying to give more details.
As it states in the [[Rules, Standards and Principles]]:  
         
(e) Speaking in generalities is better than spe cifics, when describing events of the film or show. Saying "John Doe uses a Beretta 92FS throughout the film" is preferable to writing "John Doe uses a Beretta 92FS to avenge his brother's death and kill all his enemies by the end of the film". You can be very specific in identifying the weapon used, and still leave a little mystery for the visitor who may not have seen the film yet.  -[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (EST) 


::: As stated in the [[Rules, Standards and Principles]]:  
::: The reason why your screenshots are changed out is because I'm usually waiting to put screenshots up until I can get an HD version that doesn't have any logos.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (EST)
::::Due to IMFDB's increasing role as a site of movie trivia research, we are clamping down on commentary which may appear sarcastic, insulting or denigrating. Criticizing an actor's firing stance or snickering at them 'flinching' during blank fire is becoming increasingly frowned upon by IMFDB. Pointing out how ridiculous a scene is due to mythical firearm ballistics, or lack of reloading, or lack of technical advisers can be done, but only in a non-insulting manner and only if it is relevant to increasing the public knowledge of the weapon and its proper usage. If one has to point out a flaw or mistake, please try to do it as scholarly and neutrally as possible. Using the old 'management axiom' "Praise in public, Criticize in Private", we can move any casual discussions to the 'Discussions Pages', that is what they are there for. Looking for movie still frames where an actor blinks or flinches (just to ridicule) is not necessary and brings down the professionalism of the site.
::::Understood, I'll continue to try for good screenshots if you continue to change them. I really appreciate you uploading the HD shots!


Also, when responding to someone's comment, please remember to answer on that user's discussion page and properly sign your posts with the following symbols: <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>          --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 17:33, 23 August 2012 (CDT)
::::I'm removing the screenshots because there are already too many screenshots for those weapons and the screenshots do not point out anything new other than it is from a different episode.  I'm sorry to replace your screenshots, but the ones uploaded need to be of higher quality. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 03:24, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
:::::I am aware, and I appreciate you replacing my screenshots with higher quality ones, that's how it's been done since I started. I upload a shot, and someone (probably you) gets a higher quality one. I'm fine with that. However, I think the weapons show what goes on throughout the story of the show, when Cooper and Lucero are kidnapped, it's important IMO to show that the suspect uses Lucero's Beretta (etc.) [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] ([[User talk:Glock172|talk]]) 14:36, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
 
==Uploading Screenshots==
If you mistakenly overwrite an existing screenshot, you can tap the "Revert" command in order to change it back.  This is located in the "File History" box on the left when you click the image.  You can then change the resolution from "600px" to "601px" to see the changed picture on the page. 
 
It's best when uploading screenshots from TV, that you put the name and episode number in your filename, ex.  for Southland Season 4 Episode 3, you could put as a filename: SouthS4E03 Beretta. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (EST)
 
:: Don't worry about putting "the episode" before every title since it already has the season and episode number. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 01:23, 15 March 2013 (EDT)
:::That aside, can you not revert the edits I made to clarify certain pictures? I spent time on that, and I'd rather you discuss it with me before you completely remove it. I corrected some redundancy and specified important things, and I'm a little miffed that I worked on it just to have it be removed. [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] ([[User talk:Glock172|talk]]) 16:41, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 18:36, 14 April 2013

Eagle Eye

The description of how Jerry uses the Glock in the film was left purposely vague to not provide spoilers. --Ben41 20:43, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

Oh, I'm sorry. I'll fix that if it hasn't been already. My bad.

Bill Cosby

Cosby used a lot of weapons on the I Spy (TV Series). --Ben41 22:31, 9 October 2011 (CDT)

MW3 M1911

The description is deliberately vague to avoid needless spoilers. While fighting Makarov at the end is about as big a surprise as Mario fighting Bowser, it isn't really obvious from the image that the body is Soap (I deliberately didn't look at Soap so his name wouldn't appear and stood so you couldn't see anything distinctive) and I don't think it's really necessary to say it is. Evil Tim 20:29, 20 November 2011 (CST)

Southland

Thanks for your contributions to the Southland pages. In the future, please keep your captions a little shorter. The main point of the caption is to describe the weapon seen. There is no need to over explain every single plot point that pertains to the screenshot. --Ben41 (talk) 17:37, 2 March 2013 (EST)

Over-explaining won't happen again, but what's wrong with describing the context? People might do well to know *some* details if they see a screenshot of a cop laying on the ground firing his weapon. I won't spoil anything or over-explain, but is the policy to describe *nothing* but the weapon? Glock172 (talk) 22:40, 2 March 2013 (EST)

As it states in the Rules, Standards and Principles:

(e) Speaking in generalities is better than spe cifics, when describing events of the film or show. Saying "John Doe uses a Beretta 92FS throughout the film" is preferable to writing "John Doe uses a Beretta 92FS to avenge his brother's death and kill all his enemies by the end of the film". You can be very specific in identifying the weapon used, and still leave a little mystery for the visitor who may not have seen the film yet. -Ben41 (talk) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (EST)

The reason why your screenshots are changed out is because I'm usually waiting to put screenshots up until I can get an HD version that doesn't have any logos. --Ben41 (talk) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (EST)
Understood, I'll continue to try for good screenshots if you continue to change them. I really appreciate you uploading the HD shots!
I'm removing the screenshots because there are already too many screenshots for those weapons and the screenshots do not point out anything new other than it is from a different episode. I'm sorry to replace your screenshots, but the ones uploaded need to be of higher quality. --Ben41 (talk) 03:24, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
I am aware, and I appreciate you replacing my screenshots with higher quality ones, that's how it's been done since I started. I upload a shot, and someone (probably you) gets a higher quality one. I'm fine with that. However, I think the weapons show what goes on throughout the story of the show, when Cooper and Lucero are kidnapped, it's important IMO to show that the suspect uses Lucero's Beretta (etc.) Glock172 (talk) 14:36, 14 April 2013 (EDT)

Uploading Screenshots

If you mistakenly overwrite an existing screenshot, you can tap the "Revert" command in order to change it back. This is located in the "File History" box on the left when you click the image. You can then change the resolution from "600px" to "601px" to see the changed picture on the page.

It's best when uploading screenshots from TV, that you put the name and episode number in your filename, ex. for Southland Season 4 Episode 3, you could put as a filename: SouthS4E03 Beretta. --Ben41 (talk) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (EST)

Don't worry about putting "the episode" before every title since it already has the season and episode number. --Ben41 (talk) 01:23, 15 March 2013 (EDT)
That aside, can you not revert the edits I made to clarify certain pictures? I spent time on that, and I'd rather you discuss it with me before you completely remove it. I corrected some redundancy and specified important things, and I'm a little miffed that I worked on it just to have it be removed. Glock172 (talk) 16:41, 15 March 2013 (EDT)
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