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'''This is my hundredth movie page!''' [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:51, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | '''This is my hundredth movie page!''' [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:51, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
= Unknown weapons = | = Unknown weapons = | ||
There are several pistols and assault rifles in the movie that I cannot identify. Thanks in advance for help. | There are several pistols and assault rifles in the movie that I cannot identify. Thanks in advance for help. | ||
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Next moment the pistol of taxi driver switches to another model, also unknown. | Next moment the pistol of taxi driver switches to another model, also unknown. | ||
:[[Smith & Wesson 4505]]? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:51, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | :[[Smith & Wesson 4505]]? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:51, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
I'm saying its definitely another airsoft gun, you can see two screw holes on the side of it in the first shot. [[User:Czar|Czar]] | |||
[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Pistol 3 == | == Pistol 3 == | ||
Plainclothes police officers are armed with this pistols. It can be the same pistol that was seen in hands of taxi driver. | Plainclothes police officers are armed with this pistols. It can be the same pistol that was seen in hands of taxi driver. | ||
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[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-7.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-7.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-8.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-8.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Pistol 5 == | == Pistol 5 == | ||
Fitch McQuaid ([[Vincent Riotta]]) is armed with this pistol. | Fitch McQuaid ([[Vincent Riotta]]) is armed with this pistol. | ||
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[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-10.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-10.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-11.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-11.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Pistol 6 == | == Pistol 6 == | ||
It is seen briefly among the weapons of Hopper and Sunti when they prepare for final scene. | It is seen briefly among the weapons of Hopper and Sunti when they prepare for final scene. | ||
Just looks like your standard M1911A1 with Pachmayr grips. [[User:Czar|Czar]] | |||
[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-12.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownPistol-12.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
It seems to me that the shape of this pistol is too rectangular for 1911. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Assault Rifle 1 == | == Assault Rifle 1 == | ||
The man at the right holds a weapon that looks like [[Heckler & Koch HK33]] or [[Heckler & Koch G3]] with a M16-style handle. | The man at the right holds a weapon that looks like [[Heckler & Koch HK33]] or [[Heckler & Koch G3]] with a M16-style handle. | ||
:These guys look like they're dancing. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:05, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | :These guys look like they're dancing. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:05, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
::They are shot from below and are falling. This movie has a typical Hong Kong choreography of battle scenes with slow-motion of falling bodies. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownRifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownRifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
== Assault Rifle 2 == | == Assault Rifle 2 == | ||
This rifle also looks like a crossbreed between Heckler & Koch HK33 and M16. | This rifle also looks like a crossbreed between Heckler & Koch HK33 and M16. | ||
The reciver and magazine seem to indicate that it's some sort of SIG Assault Rifle.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 14:54, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | The reciver and magazine seem to indicate that it's some sort of SIG Assault Rifle.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 14:54, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
I would say another airsoft gun. [[User:Czar|Czar]] | |||
[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownRifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownRifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
[[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownRifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | [[Image:Belly of the Beast-UnknownRifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | ||
Fixed. Thanks! | |||
- [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:42, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | - [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:42, 23 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
:Both this and the previous unidentified rifle look to me like [[Beretta AR-70/223|Beretta AR-70]]s. Also, the weapon identified on the page as a G3 appears to be another AR70. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 11:57, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
::It seems to me that those rifles differs from Beretta AR-70. The shape of the stock is different and the handle looks like M16, not like AR-70/90. And one more point: the movie was filmed in Thailand with the help of Thai police and army, and Heckler and Koch rifles are used in Thailand as main infantry weapon unlike Beretta AR-70. So I think that it's not a Beretta. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 08:13, 25 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
==Machine gun== | |||
The unidentified machine gun looks like an M60. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 05:47, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
:Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 06:00, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
==Trainyard Massacre== | |||
Aside from being very obviously portrayed by a much slimmer, more nimble stuntman roughly 80% of the movie, Seagal does fire off an amazing number of rounds in this thing. I counted 45 shots without reloading in the trainyard scene. Naturally, Seagal's stance is silly and sort of off-kilter, and his eyes are generally closed. This thing is probably the most hilarious Invincible Steven Seagal movie ever. Especially when his strikes throw guys through car doors, launch thugs 60' through the air in a straight line - and the scene where he (okay, his stunt double) hurls himself head-first through a wooden wall to gun down guys he couldn't possibly have known were even there. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] ([[User talk:Atypicaloracle|talk]]) 09:33, 9 November 2012 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 14:33, 9 November 2012
This is my hundredth movie page! Greg-Z 14:51, 23 August 2012 (CDT)
Unknown weapons
There are several pistols and assault rifles in the movie that I cannot identify. Thanks in advance for help.
Pistol 1
A Bangkok taxi driver aims this pistol at Jake Hopper (Steven Seagal). It looks similar to Glocks but differs in details.
Pistol 2
Next moment the pistol of taxi driver switches to another model, also unknown.
- Smith & Wesson 4505? --Funkychinaman 14:51, 23 August 2012 (CDT)
I'm saying its definitely another airsoft gun, you can see two screw holes on the side of it in the first shot. Czar
Fixed. Thanks! Greg-Z 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
Pistol 3
Plainclothes police officers are armed with this pistols. It can be the same pistol that was seen in hands of taxi driver.
Pistol 4
Jake Hopper (Steven Seagal) disarms a police officer. I have a version that this is Smith & Wesson Sigma.
- Agreed. --Funkychinaman 14:51, 23 August 2012 (CDT)
Fixed. Thanks! Greg-Z 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
Pistol 5
Fitch McQuaid (Vincent Riotta) is armed with this pistol.
- It's an Airsoft 1911 of some sort, and a cheap one too. Check the first picture - you can see the screw holes in the frame and slide. Also, the hammer (which is up) is molded into the back of the gun. --Clutch 14:59, 23 August 2012 (CDT)
Fixed. Thanks! Greg-Z 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
Pistol 6
It is seen briefly among the weapons of Hopper and Sunti when they prepare for final scene.
Just looks like your standard M1911A1 with Pachmayr grips. Czar
It seems to me that the shape of this pistol is too rectangular for 1911. Greg-Z 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
Assault Rifle 1
The man at the right holds a weapon that looks like Heckler & Koch HK33 or Heckler & Koch G3 with a M16-style handle.
- These guys look like they're dancing. --Funkychinaman 15:05, 23 August 2012 (CDT)
- They are shot from below and are falling. This movie has a typical Hong Kong choreography of battle scenes with slow-motion of falling bodies. Greg-Z 04:33, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
Assault Rifle 2
This rifle also looks like a crossbreed between Heckler & Koch HK33 and M16. The reciver and magazine seem to indicate that it's some sort of SIG Assault Rifle.Rockwolf66 14:54, 23 August 2012 (CDT) I would say another airsoft gun. Czar
Fixed. Thanks! - Greg-Z 14:42, 23 August 2012 (CDT)
- Both this and the previous unidentified rifle look to me like Beretta AR-70s. Also, the weapon identified on the page as a G3 appears to be another AR70. -MT2008 11:57, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
- It seems to me that those rifles differs from Beretta AR-70. The shape of the stock is different and the handle looks like M16, not like AR-70/90. And one more point: the movie was filmed in Thailand with the help of Thai police and army, and Heckler and Koch rifles are used in Thailand as main infantry weapon unlike Beretta AR-70. So I think that it's not a Beretta. Greg-Z 08:13, 25 August 2012 (CDT)
Machine gun
The unidentified machine gun looks like an M60. --Funkychinaman 05:47, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
- Fixed. Thanks! Greg-Z 06:00, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
Trainyard Massacre
Aside from being very obviously portrayed by a much slimmer, more nimble stuntman roughly 80% of the movie, Seagal does fire off an amazing number of rounds in this thing. I counted 45 shots without reloading in the trainyard scene. Naturally, Seagal's stance is silly and sort of off-kilter, and his eyes are generally closed. This thing is probably the most hilarious Invincible Steven Seagal movie ever. Especially when his strikes throw guys through car doors, launch thugs 60' through the air in a straight line - and the scene where he (okay, his stunt double) hurls himself head-first through a wooden wall to gun down guys he couldn't possibly have known were even there. Atypicaloracle (talk) 09:33, 9 November 2012 (EST)