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I think the number of pages on this wiki that feature media based on the works involving guns has already passed the level of "critical mass" necessary to justify a category for this late author's works. We already have creator-centric categories now for authors, like Tom Clancy--I'm sure Philip K. Dick should get one just for his works now, given that we have pages for [[Blade Runner]], [[Paycheck]], [[Minority Report]], both Total Recall movies, etc. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 10:50, 15 August 2012 (CDT) | I think the number of pages on this wiki that feature media based on the works involving guns has already passed the level of "critical mass" necessary to justify a category for this late author's works. We already have creator-centric categories now for authors, like Tom Clancy--I'm sure Philip K. Dick should get one just for his works now, given that we have pages for [[Blade Runner]], [[Paycheck]], [[Minority Report]], both Total Recall movies, etc. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 10:50, 15 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
:For me it would be somewhat debatable how much these movies actually have in common with Philip's work. Some of these movies are very loose adaptation of their source material at best. That doesn't make them bad movies in their own right, but they are much more influenced by their respective creator than by Dick's source material. Ridley Scott created a fantastic adaptation in terms of atmosphere but he didn't even read the novel. Minority Report changed major plot points from the book. And this newest film sadly isn't so much an adaptation of the original short story as much as a loose remake of Verhoeven's film. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 12:31, 15 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
If you look at the Tom Clancy category, I'm sure you'll find plenty of stuff that isn't directly based on his works--the "Tom Clancy's" sticker you can see on the packaging for the various game titles on that list right now seems more like a merchandising label more than anything else, since I very much doubt he took the trouble to write up all the relevant plot details for all the more recent games (which unfortunately have largely taken a turn ''away'' from the methodical and tactical action the operators Clancy is famous for writing about perform) bearing his name. As for the films based on PKD's works, I think it is largely by commercial necessity that the film adaptations have taken a less cerebral (and less of a "what the hell is going on?") approach to the subject matter addressed than the original books did--cerebral bits and mind screws are better used in books, where you have all the time you need to be confused and figure it out, while in a movie theatre that kind of stuff more often than not just pisses the popcorn-and-soda-eating crowd off. The ''A Scanner, Darkly'' adaptation starring [[Keanu Reeves]] (which should be on this wiki) was pretty close to the original book, but in some ways suffered for it, because the book really ''is'' about a bunch of stoners made so paranoid and scatterbrained by the drugs they're taking, they can't do anything right and their memories are all over the place. So I posit that even if the film adaptations of PKD's works aren't the most faithful around, the fact that so many films are based on his works should merit a separate category for them.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 21:33, 15 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
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Wait, what? Why?--PistolJunkie 02:00, 2 April 2012 (CDT)
That's a P220 Sport, not a 226. There are no double stack bulges on the frame. GLOCK10mil 07:15, 2 April 2012 (CDT)
Looks like Farrell is holding a old model Beretta Cheetah on the poster. --bozitojugg3rn4ut 14:43, 3 April 2012 (CDT)
- I think it is a slightly dressed up Beretta 92FS with a compensator. If nothing else it looks way too big to me to be a Cheetah, and if you brighten the hell out of the poster (have uploaded a bigger version but won't have updated yet so see here for source) you can just about make out the frame mounted safety as well as the 92 style grips. --commando552 15:09, 3 April 2012 (CDT)
- Yeah, definitely a 92FS. That weird trigger guard resembling the old 80 series got me confused. --bozitojugg3rn4ut 15:40, 3 April 2012 (CDT)
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Time for a Philip K. Dick category?
I think the number of pages on this wiki that feature media based on the works involving guns has already passed the level of "critical mass" necessary to justify a category for this late author's works. We already have creator-centric categories now for authors, like Tom Clancy--I'm sure Philip K. Dick should get one just for his works now, given that we have pages for Blade Runner, Paycheck, Minority Report, both Total Recall movies, etc. --Mazryonh 10:50, 15 August 2012 (CDT)
- For me it would be somewhat debatable how much these movies actually have in common with Philip's work. Some of these movies are very loose adaptation of their source material at best. That doesn't make them bad movies in their own right, but they are much more influenced by their respective creator than by Dick's source material. Ridley Scott created a fantastic adaptation in terms of atmosphere but he didn't even read the novel. Minority Report changed major plot points from the book. And this newest film sadly isn't so much an adaptation of the original short story as much as a loose remake of Verhoeven's film. --BeloglaviSup 12:31, 15 August 2012 (CDT)
If you look at the Tom Clancy category, I'm sure you'll find plenty of stuff that isn't directly based on his works--the "Tom Clancy's" sticker you can see on the packaging for the various game titles on that list right now seems more like a merchandising label more than anything else, since I very much doubt he took the trouble to write up all the relevant plot details for all the more recent games (which unfortunately have largely taken a turn away from the methodical and tactical action the operators Clancy is famous for writing about perform) bearing his name. As for the films based on PKD's works, I think it is largely by commercial necessity that the film adaptations have taken a less cerebral (and less of a "what the hell is going on?") approach to the subject matter addressed than the original books did--cerebral bits and mind screws are better used in books, where you have all the time you need to be confused and figure it out, while in a movie theatre that kind of stuff more often than not just pisses the popcorn-and-soda-eating crowd off. The A Scanner, Darkly adaptation starring Keanu Reeves (which should be on this wiki) was pretty close to the original book, but in some ways suffered for it, because the book really is about a bunch of stoners made so paranoid and scatterbrained by the drugs they're taking, they can't do anything right and their memories are all over the place. So I posit that even if the film adaptations of PKD's works aren't the most faithful around, the fact that so many films are based on his works should merit a separate category for them.--Mazryonh 21:33, 15 August 2012 (CDT)