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=Unknowns=
=Unknowns=
==Unknown carbine==
==Unknown revolver==
Horn's Micro Galil seems to change back and forth to another weapon during the armored truck heist. The main difference seems to be in the magazines and the front sight. In the making-of featurette, the Micro Galil jams almost immediately. The director may have asked for a replacement. (He had asked for a replacement in another scene where a gun constantly jams.)
Vrinks teases Titi Brasseur ([[Francis Renaud]]) about drunkenly leaving his service weapon in the bathroom after Eddy's party. Although Titi is later shown firing a [[Glock 17]] during the botched ambush. I used to think this was an MR-73, but I'm just no sure anymore. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 21:43, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
[[Image:36P_unknown1_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Notice the lack of a front sight.]]
[[Image:36P_MR73_01.jpg|thumb|none|601px|]]
[[Image:36P_unknown1_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Notice the different magazine.]]
[[Image:36P_unknown1_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Notice the curvature of the magazine.]]
[[Image:36P_unknown1_S01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alain Figlarz goofs off in between takes during the making-of featurette. Notice he's got the unknown carbine, not the Micro Galil.]]
:I'm guessing it's some sort of modified [[AKMSU]], but the stock folds to the right instead of the left. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 01:03, 11 June 2012 (CDT)
 
==Unknown shotgun==
Vrinks carries a customized shotgun during the botched ambush. I'm *think* it's a Remington 870, but I'm not sure. It does not appear to be same shotgun he carries later in the motel raid. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:47, 9 June 2012 (CDT)
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=Discussion=
=Discussion=
==Custom AR==
==Custom AR==
I'm not 100% on that the ID of the Custom AR. I'm not sure if it's just that, a custom job, or a commerial variant that I missed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:10, 9 June 2012 (CDT)
I'm not 100% on that the ID of the Custom AR. I'm not sure if it's just that, a custom job, or a commerial variant that I missed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:10, 9 June 2012 (CDT)
==Zastava M85==
The carbine in the movie has a shorter handguard than the Zastava rifles. It's more likely to be an Arsenal AR-SF with a Krinkov flash hider and wood furniture, just like the one used in [[District B13]]. Opinions? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 09:22, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
:I'm not sure, but likely. Both films used the same armorers. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:29, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
::Okay, I looked it again. Wouldn't it be easier to stick the magazine from the AR-SF in the M85 than swapping out the handguard and the flash hider on the M85? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:51, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
:::Um... wasn't the second part of your sentence intended to the AR-SF? And like I said, the weapon in the film clearly has the different and shorter handguard, there's no way this one could be set up on a Zastava. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 13:04, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
::::And yes, it does look like the same weapon from B13, but again, are we sure that's an AR-SF? If the three distinguishing features of an AR-SF are the magazine, the stock and the flash hider, and two of those three things have been swapped out and the third is interchangeable, then how do you know it's an AR-SF? Where did the information on the B13 page come from? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:50, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
:::::Looking in the B13 page history, a couple of users suggested the AR-SF, and MPM eventually put the info in 2009. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 13:59, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
::::::Well, if MPM signed off fine. If you make the change, just remember, there's already an entry for the AR-SF, so just combine the two rather than simply switching the ID. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:03, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
:::::::Yeah, by quickly going with the alphabetical order I previously missed the fact that there was already another AR-SF section. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 14:06, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
::::::::The AR-SF does have more distinguishing features than the magazine, handguard and muzzle device, just not unique ones but in this combination they are distinct. Primarilly, the combination of having a Krink length barrel, stamped underfolding stock and top cover, but milled receiver is pretty telling of it being an AR-SF.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:57, 24 August 2017 (EDT)

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Unidentified

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Unknowns

Unknown revolver

Vrinks teases Titi Brasseur (Francis Renaud) about drunkenly leaving his service weapon in the bathroom after Eddy's party. Although Titi is later shown firing a Glock 17 during the botched ambush. I used to think this was an MR-73, but I'm just no sure anymore. --Funkychinaman (talk) 21:43, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

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Discussion

Custom AR

I'm not 100% on that the ID of the Custom AR. I'm not sure if it's just that, a custom job, or a commerial variant that I missed. --Funkychinaman 21:10, 9 June 2012 (CDT)

Zastava M85

The carbine in the movie has a shorter handguard than the Zastava rifles. It's more likely to be an Arsenal AR-SF with a Krinkov flash hider and wood furniture, just like the one used in District B13. Opinions? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:22, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

I'm not sure, but likely. Both films used the same armorers. --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:29, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
Okay, I looked it again. Wouldn't it be easier to stick the magazine from the AR-SF in the M85 than swapping out the handguard and the flash hider on the M85? --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:51, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
Um... wasn't the second part of your sentence intended to the AR-SF? And like I said, the weapon in the film clearly has the different and shorter handguard, there's no way this one could be set up on a Zastava. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:04, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
And yes, it does look like the same weapon from B13, but again, are we sure that's an AR-SF? If the three distinguishing features of an AR-SF are the magazine, the stock and the flash hider, and two of those three things have been swapped out and the third is interchangeable, then how do you know it's an AR-SF? Where did the information on the B13 page come from? --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:50, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
Looking in the B13 page history, a couple of users suggested the AR-SF, and MPM eventually put the info in 2009. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:59, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
Well, if MPM signed off fine. If you make the change, just remember, there's already an entry for the AR-SF, so just combine the two rather than simply switching the ID. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:03, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
Yeah, by quickly going with the alphabetical order I previously missed the fact that there was already another AR-SF section. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 14:06, 24 August 2017 (EDT)
The AR-SF does have more distinguishing features than the magazine, handguard and muzzle device, just not unique ones but in this combination they are distinct. Primarilly, the combination of having a Krink length barrel, stamped underfolding stock and top cover, but milled receiver is pretty telling of it being an AR-SF. --commando552 (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2017 (EDT)