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| =Criminal Minds Screen-used guns= | | =Criminal Minds Screen-used guns= |
| [[Image:CM_guns.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The actual guns used in Criminal Minds from the set, picture posted on twitter by Criminal Minds makeup artist Anna Fleiner (@annafleiner). From top to bottom, Morgan (SIG Sauer P226 with Surefire light), Hotch (Glock 17), Prentiss(Glock 19), JJ (Glock 26), Reid (S&W 65).]] | | [[Image:CM_guns.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The actual guns used in Criminal Minds from the set, picture posted on twitter by Criminal Minds makeup artist Anna Fleiner (@annafleiner). From top to bottom, Morgan (SIG Sauer P226 with Surefire light), Hotch (Glock 17), Prentiss(Glock 19), JJ (Glock 26), Reid (S&W 65).]] |
| Correction: The tac-light on Morgan's gun is a TLR-1 Streamlight-- not a Surefire. You can clearly read the markings on it.--[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]] 13:34, 1 April 2012 (CDT) | | :Correction: The tac-light on Morgan's gun is a TLR-1 Streamlight-- not a Surefire. You can clearly read the markings on it.--[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]] 13:34, 1 April 2012 (CDT) |
| | | :I forgot to mention that the stock grips on Morgan's gun were replaced with Hogue Model 26000 molded rubber grips with finger grooves (which sell for around $25).--[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]] 11:43, 3 April 2012 (CDT) |
| =Additional Screenshots=
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| [[Image:......reid.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Reid with his [[Smith & Wesson Model 65|S&W Model 65]] holstered strangely.]]
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| [[Image:.....screencap.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Production image of Morgan ([[Shemar Moore]]) with his Glock ]]
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| [[Image:Agent_morgan.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Morgan with his Glock 17 while talking to a suspect.]]
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| [[Image:Mod65reid.jpg|thumb|none|275px|Spencer Reid with [[Smith & Wesson Model 65|Model 65]] drawn, about to enter a room where a suspect is holed up while Morgan holds his [[Glock 17]] pistol.]]
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| [[Image:Bank_guard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A bank guard enters a brief standoff with a bank robber before surrendering weapon.]]
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| -:Reid is using what is called the "appendix carry".--[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]] 19:30, 2 April 2012 (CDT)
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| =Discussion=
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| ==Derek Morgan's Glock Attachment==
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| I hope I'm doing this right. I noticed that the attachment listed for Morgan's Glock 17 is a Surefire x400; but if you look closely at the screen captures you can see a silver/white ring on the attachment. If you compare it to pictures of the x400 it doesn't match up; however, the TLR-2 Streamlight has the silver ring. So I believe he actually has a TLR-2 attachment rather than x400. Does anyone have different screen captures in which it looked like he had the x400? Or was that just a guess by someone? I do wonder why, if he already had the TLR-2, he seems to have gone to a TLR-1 for his P226R. | |
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| Pictures for reference:
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| Glock 17 with Surefire x400 attachment
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| [[Image:G17-1x400.JPG|thumb|none|500px|]]
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| Morgan with his Glock drawn
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| [[Image:Morgang17.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
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| [[Image:Morgang17-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
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| Glock 17 with TLR-2 Streamlight attachment
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| [[Image:Glock17wTLR-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
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| What do you folks think? --[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]]
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| ==Derek Morgans P226==
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| I may be wrong but it looks to me that morgan's SIG may be a E2 model P226? i looked at a picture and it looks like the new grips and trigger? can anyone else confirm this?
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| :-I have no clue what the difference is. I admit I am woefully ignorant about guns but I am trying to learn a bit more. I know it is the P226R because it has a rail, but I think you are right about the grips being different from the standard ones that I saw in pictures. Perhaps they are just custom grip replacements? The pictures I saw of e2 and "elite" models didn't have the two screws in them like the one on Morgan's gun. I don't know jack about how to identify the grips though. As it is, I can't even make out any markings on the gun in the picture from the crew member from CM. --[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]]
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| ==Joe Mantegna==
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| He is a gunsite graduate and pro gun actor. Hell of a shooter too.--[[User:James3|James3]] 21:11, 7 April 2011 (CDT)
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| ===found out===
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| Joe Mantegna is a big second ammendment supporter, and loves shooting sports. He particularly likes shotguns and has stated distaste for hypocricy in hollywood and says that it makes him sick an actor will use guns in movies to boost career then preach on how bad they are. Think its cool, and he definitey knows how to use that TRP.
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| ==Reid and his revolver. Why?==
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| Why did Reid switch to revolver? Yes the F.B.I. authorized the S&W Model 10 with 3" barrel and the round butt grip configuration in the mid seventies. And in the late eighties authorized the S&W Model 13 with 3" barrel and round butt grip, but Ried would have been a kid in the late eighties See: ''[[Silence of the Lambs]]'' and ''[[Dead Bang]]''. I suppose it might be something of a nod to the old timers and perhaps a clever way to link the show to ''[[Silence of the Lambs]]'' , but I can't find any info about the switch either in a backstory or actual reality.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| - Perhaps he found a revolver easier to use/maintain, who knows. My question is what's wrong with him having a revolver? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:05, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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| Nothing is wrong with him having a revolver ( like revolvers personally ), but I doubt that the F.B.I. would authorize him to carry one. But let's not hung up on reality. I'm just wondering if there was a backstory to the switch. Reid is a thinker. A genius. Why would he do this assuming that he did get a waiver to carry a non-authorized handgun. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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| :- Ah. Well, I don't think there was any real explanation in-show for the change, at least not that I've seen yet. Guess that's just another reason to watch the show more, heh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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| :: Well, there's no official explanation that I can find that explains the change. If it is meant to be a nod to Lambs and the like (Julianne Moore's Sterling uses an almost identical gun in the alternate ending of ''Hannibal''), that's cool, and probably likely. Of course Matthew Gray Gubler himself might prefer the revolver, be it personally or even for his character. I always found revolvers much simpler and practical than semiautos in many cases, and Gubler/Reid might think the same way. I also notice that the more 'unique' characters (Reid, Rossi/Mantegna, and Gideon/Patinkin) all have their own unique guns than the rest of the team's Glocks (Rossi with the Springfield TRP 1911, Gideon with the P226 and Reid with the Model 65) but they all (mostly) correlate to actual-issue FBI weapons, albeit a bit more distantly in Reid's case. Also a shoutout to the user who got the 3-inch Model 65 image. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:05, 21 July 2011 (CDT)
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| :::- I believe at some point at one of the chats or on one of the social sites or something behind the scenes they mentioned that Gubler wanted the revolver because he thought it was more vintage and would better suit Reid's tastes. Gubler himself uses revolvers when visiting his mother's ranch (she runs a dude ranch in Las Vegas called Sandy Valley Ranch). I am guessing he went with the 3-inch model for comfort since he uses the appendix carry for it. A longer barrel might jab him. (shoutout back at you-- since I found the 3-inch model image-- I wish I'd known during my initial search that it was described as a 65-3 instead of trying to search for 3" or 3 inch, putting in 65-3 made things simpler the last time i looked). A pity I forgot my original login information and it wouldn't send anything to my e-mail when I requested my password. D'oh.
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| --[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]]
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| ==Springfield==
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| The FBI uses the Springfield Professional, available only through their custom shop. The TRP is a mass produced model that's cheaper and designed for civilians, it has many of the same features as the professional. They're two completely different weapons but both this page and the page for Numbers make the same mistake of saying the TRP is used by the FBI.
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| Currently getting some screencaps from footage, should be up later.
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| Screencap.
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| The TRP was originally produced with 2 variants. One was the standard TRP then the FBI contract pistol was known as the TRP Pro model. Springfield has since done away with the TRP Pro model and offered the Springfield Custom Professional. It is identical to the TRP Pro. The FBI contract pistol has a long history. Problems with all the submissions made it difficult to choose one. Original models were made by Les Baer and were high capacity models. The original Springfield model chosen by the FBI was the TRP Pro.--[[User:Ram229|Ram229]] 11:26, 7 February 2012 (CST)
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| :- Ok, so I'm confused... What is the exact name of the gun Rossi carries? Springfield Armory Professional TRP? Does it go by M1911 or 1911 or is that just a similar gun? --[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]]
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| ==CZ75==
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| [[Image:Cz_75.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Cult leader threatens agent Prentiss with a stainless CZ-75b]]
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| CZ75stainless:
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| [[Image:Cz75bstainless.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
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| :I still say it is a Smith & Wesson single stack pistol, likely a .45. If you look, the slide is different, the grip design is different, the trigger guard curvature is different, and the hammer is different. I'd say it is a 4506 early model with the squared trigger guard. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
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| ==Glock 17==
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| The Glock 17s that you show in the screen grabs are second generation based on the lack of rails. You posted a picture of the 3rd gen(with finger grooves and rail) instead. Something to note. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 08:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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| :Whoa, am I off base. The Glock 17 2nd gen, is actually a Glock 19 second gen. My bad. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 08:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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| :: Back again, I guess. The unknown rifle is a Winchester Model 70 in 30.06. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 09:08, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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| [[Usr:K9870]] Agent Morgan's glock is the most commonly seen glock on screen and his has the rail for his light attachment.Ill change my rifle, what ones a glock 19?
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| ::The police detective picture has a glock 19. I changed it already. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 22:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Glock 17 Duex==
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| I know as a general rule that whenever we see a Glock in a movie, unless proven otherwise, it is assumed to be a 9mm Glock. But I think that it's safe to assume that the BAU team (with the exception of Reid, Gideon, and Rossi) all use Glock 22s. I mean, this show is incredibly accurate as far as how the real life FBI BAU operates, so they would obviously use the same firearms. Plus, the sidearms of the other agents are accurate too. For example, Rossi carries a Springfield Armory TRP, which is what the real life FBI HRT uses as well. Gideon, an older FBI agent, uses a SIG Sauer P226, a weapon that has been previously used by the FBI (indicating that he became an FBI agent during this period). So it's clearly more likely that the agents use Glock 22's. This same statement applies to Agent Hotchner's backup Glock (it's most likely a Glock 27, not a 26). [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]
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| One scene had a militaia leader analyze reid and morgan's guns, he said quote "Glock 17, Tactical, But european, I prefer to carry american hardware." Also, the G22 is similar to a 17 so they probably didn't expect viewers to pick up on it.
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| Who would care if they do notice I don't think anyone is gonna be like "How the hell can Morgan have Glock 17 the FBI uses the Glock 22" really who gives a shit personally i'd take the 17 to the 22 any day. [[User:24guns|24guns]]
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| ::- I would say from the picture Anna Fleiner shared that we have our answer as to what models were being used. The gun marked for Hotch was clearly a 17, Prentiss a 19, and JJ's a 26. I think they gave Prentiss the gun Elle used and that Seaver had JJ's gun for awhile. Did anyone get a good enough look at Ashley Seaver's gun to tell if it was a 26 or a 19? I couldn't tell. --[[User:Suceress2|Suceress2]]
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| ==Glock??==
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| [[Image:G22.jpg|thumb||300px|Is this a Glock 22?]]
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| here is a screen cap of Hotch's Glock. I am not good at this, can someone tell by bore diameter what caliber it is?
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| If you have any other questions, I have seasons 1-4 dvd, and can provide screencaps from any episodes in those seasons. --giantpandadestroyer
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| ::You overwrote someone else's shot for the film [[48 Hrs.|48 Hours]] so it was reverted. Re-upload your pic with a unique title. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
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| Further more, the Oregon detective appears to be firing a Glock 23. Look at the bore
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| Its seems to be a larger bore. But at .40 v 9mm it is hard to tell. I would call it a Glock 22 but the arguement rages through IMFDB.--[[Special:Contributions/2.24.85.170|2.24.85.170]] 14:21, 23 April 2011 (CDT)
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| ==Compact 1911 Variant==
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| Does anyone have an ID on the compact 1911 used by the leader of the San Francisco team (Forest Whitaker) in "The Fight" (5x18)?-Snake Doc
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| ==MP-5 Use==
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| I forget which episode it was but Morgan proceeds to fire an MP-5 on full auto through the windshield of the SUV he is a passenger in in order to stop an "un-sub". What I found interesting and realistic about that was that the driver of the vehicle called him crazy for firing a full auto weapon in such confined quarters nearly deafening her. Most other shows show little or no consequence for such a thing. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| Yeah, and Rossi had his hearing damaged by a gunshot in another episode.
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| == Smith & Wesson Stealth Hunter?==
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| I personally don`t think the revolver is a Stealth Hunter. Yesterday I re watched the whole episode, and the revolver was like this variation of 629 performance center compensated barell:[[Image:Smith_%26_Wesson_Performance_Center_model_629.jpg]]
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| In the episode, when he´s aiming at Derek, you can see what I`m saying, and there`s a better slide shot. If I had the season dvd, I´d screencap it myself. What do you think? -Thebarry1394
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| :- Certainly could be a blue-steel version of that Performance Center variant. I do remember the cuts on the bottom being prominent in some scenes. Still, I think we should try to get other screencaps/pictures before changing it to be sure. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:48, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
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| ==Criminal Minds:Suspect Behavior==
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| Anyone gonna add a new page for the new Criminal Minds spin-off? --[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 15:22, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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| Ditto [[User:Gunman06]]
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| I don't know how to set up a new page, but Beau Garrett and Janeane Garofalo both use Glock 17's, along with several FBI agents. Matt Ryan wields a SW99 and Michael Kelly has an earlier model S&W auto, possibly a 5946. Not sure about Forest Whitaker's sidearm. Hope this helps.
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| [[User:Mmarlon brando|Mmarlon brando]]
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| ==Ben saves the day again!==
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| Appreciate getting some newer (read:better) screenshots and some new ones, I've been having a hard time getting some myself, though I think a few aren't too bad. ;b Also, I hope it's ok that I've re-arranged this page and moved another couple of images over here. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:05, 21 July 2011 (CDT)
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| == Unknown Bolt Sniper Rifle ==
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| [[Image:CriminalMinds-BoltSniperRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
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| In 4x10 "Brothers In arms" - This one is stumping me a bit. It doesn't appear to be a 700PSS. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:19, 28 July 2011 (CDT)
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| ==Rifles used in "Lauren"==
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| I believe that the suppressed rifles used by the BAU team and the FBI SWAT Team in "Lauren" were suppressed M4A1s.[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 10:04, 1 August 2011 (CDT)
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| ==Doyle's Suppressed Handgun==
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| I believe that the suppressed pistol used by Ian Doyle to kiil Tsia Moesely in "Valhalla" was a SIG Sauer P220 Combat Tactical with a suppressor. I am making that assumption based on the fact that Morgan said that the GSW's were caused by a forty-five caliber pistol.[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 10:04, 1 August 2011 (CDT)
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| ==Doyle's Unsuppressed Pistol==
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| I believe that Ian Doyle's unsuppressed pistol, used in "Lauren," was a SIG Sauer P226.[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 10:04, 1 August 2011 (CDT)
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| == More Pages ==
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| i think criminal minds should have a page for each season to show off the selection of guns more.
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| ==The Beretta(s) used by Randy Slade in "Painless"==
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| I believe, after reviewing the footage from the episode, that Randy Slade used both a Beretta 92FS and Beretta 92FS Non-Gun in the flashbacks during the hostage situation.
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