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I am aware Dennis Farina is a former Chicago cop, and I happen to have a friend who was partners with him back in the day. That's why I consider it odd that he seems to frequently have his finger on the trigger of the weapons he uses in his films...anyone else notice this? | I am aware Dennis Farina is a former Chicago cop, and I happen to have a friend who was partners with him back in the day. That's why I consider it odd that he seems to frequently have his finger on the trigger of the weapons he uses in his films...anyone else notice this? | ||
:Modern trigger discipline is actually a comparitively new invention, he's old enough that it's possible he simply wasn't taught it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:14, 11 March 2012 (CST) | :Modern trigger discipline is actually a comparitively new invention, he's old enough that it's possible he simply wasn't taught it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:14, 11 March 2012 (CST) | ||
::What do you mean? I thought trigger discipline was a must ever since the safety rules were written. Farina was a cop in the 1960's and '70's, surely, he'd have been taught to keep his finger off the trigger... [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] 22:20, 18 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
:No not necessarily. Back then cops were actually taught to put their fingers on the trigger. This is from dad who is a retired officer (1970-1994). They used double action revolvers and on average it takes between 10 - 12 lbs to work the action on a DA trigger - in contrast to the standard 5.5lb pressure on a GLOCK.So it was considered safe for officers to do that and that way they could be ready just that much quicker if shooting was necessary. This was one of the reasons that GLOCK developed it's so called New York Trigger which required approximately 12 lbs of pressure - just like a DA revolver. NYPD discovered that many of the older officers who choose to switch over to the auto in the mid-90's (instead of staying with their revolver) just kept putting their fingers on the trigger despite training. As a result there were more than a few accidental discharges so at the request of the NYPD (a large customer) GLOCK developed the trigger. Now I suppose we can sit here and snipe at those officers and make ourselves feel superior to them, but that's not my intention. So lets not go there. Anyway I'm one of those stupid cops and a range-master with my agency. I know how tough it can be to take an officer who has been using the same technique for sixteen years and then just expect him or her to change on a dime. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:40, 18 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
:Wow. I didn't know that. My friend that was Farina's partner was a police officer from '66 to '95. He always taught me that your finger should be off the trigger, yet I know for a fact that he carried a [[Colt Trooper]] and a [[Colt Python]] before switching to a [[Smith & Wesson Model 669]], so I guess he must have been talking to me about the safety rules based on his use of the automatic pistol. Thanks for telling me, though. [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] 18:49, 5 May 2012 (CDT) | |||
::I was informed about the origins of the GLOCK NY trigger by a Glock employee so I figure he was telling me the truth. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 21:34, 10 April 2014 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 01:34, 11 April 2014
Lack of trigger discipline
I am aware Dennis Farina is a former Chicago cop, and I happen to have a friend who was partners with him back in the day. That's why I consider it odd that he seems to frequently have his finger on the trigger of the weapons he uses in his films...anyone else notice this?
- Modern trigger discipline is actually a comparitively new invention, he's old enough that it's possible he simply wasn't taught it. Evil Tim 01:14, 11 March 2012 (CST)
- What do you mean? I thought trigger discipline was a must ever since the safety rules were written. Farina was a cop in the 1960's and '70's, surely, he'd have been taught to keep his finger off the trigger... Glock172 22:20, 18 April 2012 (CDT)
- No not necessarily. Back then cops were actually taught to put their fingers on the trigger. This is from dad who is a retired officer (1970-1994). They used double action revolvers and on average it takes between 10 - 12 lbs to work the action on a DA trigger - in contrast to the standard 5.5lb pressure on a GLOCK.So it was considered safe for officers to do that and that way they could be ready just that much quicker if shooting was necessary. This was one of the reasons that GLOCK developed it's so called New York Trigger which required approximately 12 lbs of pressure - just like a DA revolver. NYPD discovered that many of the older officers who choose to switch over to the auto in the mid-90's (instead of staying with their revolver) just kept putting their fingers on the trigger despite training. As a result there were more than a few accidental discharges so at the request of the NYPD (a large customer) GLOCK developed the trigger. Now I suppose we can sit here and snipe at those officers and make ourselves feel superior to them, but that's not my intention. So lets not go there. Anyway I'm one of those stupid cops and a range-master with my agency. I know how tough it can be to take an officer who has been using the same technique for sixteen years and then just expect him or her to change on a dime. --Jcordell 23:40, 18 April 2012 (CDT)
- Wow. I didn't know that. My friend that was Farina's partner was a police officer from '66 to '95. He always taught me that your finger should be off the trigger, yet I know for a fact that he carried a Colt Trooper and a Colt Python before switching to a Smith & Wesson Model 669, so I guess he must have been talking to me about the safety rules based on his use of the automatic pistol. Thanks for telling me, though. Glock172 18:49, 5 May 2012 (CDT)