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[[Image:Smith & Wesson Model 627.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Smith & Wesson 627 - .357 Magnum.]]
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Although I originally though it was a nickled Model 27, I now think it is actually a 627 as it has a .357 8 shot cylinder, and an untapered barrel. It isn't the original version of the 627 as that only had a 6 round cylinder, but have found [http://www.great-lakes.org/reviews/review-03-17-08.html#Smith_&_Wesson_Pro_Series_Model_627 sites] that refer to this as the 627 Pro Series, which features a shorter 4" barrel, chamfered chambers and a target crown muzzle. However, the S&W site shows the 627 Pro Series as having an ejector shroud in the same style as the 627s on the main page, but I suppose this could be an earlier version.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:50, 6 February 2012 (CST)
Although I originally though it was a nickled Model 27, I now think it is actually a 627 as it has a .357 8 shot cylinder, and an untapered barrel. It isn't the original version of the 627 as that only had a 6 round cylinder, but have found [http://www.great-lakes.org/reviews/review-03-17-08.html#Smith_&_Wesson_Pro_Series_Model_627 sites] that refer to this as the 627 Pro Series, which features a shorter 4" barrel, chamfered chambers and a target crown muzzle. However, the S&W site shows the 627 Pro Series as having an ejector shroud in the same style as the 627s on the main page, but I suppose this could be an earlier version.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:50, 6 February 2012 (CST)
== "Normal" 627s? ==
All the pictures are of eight shot Performance Center Model 627s. Are there any "normal" ones? (I assume there is such thing.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:44, 6 February 2012 (CST)
:I spent ages trying to find this out earlier today trying to work out what the above image was of. As far as I can tell, 627s were always marketed as "Performance Centre" or "Pro Series" guns. Even the first variant that was released in 1989 (pictured at top of discussion page) is a "custom looking" (for lack of a better term) gun. I'm not totally familiar with S&W terminology, but I think the "Pro Series" guns are below "Performance Centre" guns in the pecking order. For example, S&W currently sells a "Pro Series" 627 which has a shorter 4" barrel (same slanted ejector shroud profile though) and synthetic grips, and the more expensive "Performance Centre" model which has a longer 5" barrel and comes with wood grips and a spare set of synthetic grips (tall pics on the main page are performance centre). Below is the "Pro Series" gun, which I think is the closest to a "normal" 627 that you can get:
:[[File:S&W 627 Pro Series.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Smith & Wesson 627 "Pro Series" - .357 Magnum]]
:I think the gun in the previous topic might be an earlier version of this gun, but as I can't find a single case of when of this pattern being owned or sold, I'm not certain if this is the case.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:36, 6 February 2012 (CST)
I own what I guess could be considered a "normal" 627?  I have a PDF file from S&W, but can't get an image of it uploaded at the moment.  It's dated 2/1/08, and says that they're reintroducing the N-Frame Model 27, but renaming it the 627 because it will be made with stainless steel.  It's the same gun pictured in the "Main image not a 627" entry.  It's not set up to take moon clips.  And I'm pretty sure it's discontinued.  I was eyeing one at the local dealer's and looking up info online on it.  I noticed that it vanished from the S&W website and emailed them, and got a response telling me that that particular one was going away.  So I ran to the dealer and snagged it.--[[User:GunGeek7|GunGeek7]] 22:14, 31 March 2012 (CDT)
[[File:627PDF.JPG|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:Stock627.JPG|thumb|500px|none|]]
-Ok, got images uploaded.
--[[User:GunGeek7|GunGeek7]] 11:54, 1 April 2012 (CDT)
Is it really fair to say that this is a stainless version of the Model 27 then? It would appear that all 627s have eight round cylinders, not six. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 12:27, 1 April 2012 (CDT)
Although I do believe that the pictured gun is a 627 variant, the text is a bit misleading as it implies that the gun pictured is the first variant of the 627 which isn't true. It is dated 2008, but the first 627 was made back in 1989 (which has a 6 round cylinder so was closer to the model 27). Production of the 8 shot version started in the late 90s and has continued till today, so I don't know why it seems that in 2008 they decided that they were just about to start producing it. Although I still don't understand what is going on with the 627 barrel profiles, from searching around it seems that the standard profile round barrel was available for a period and is now discontinued, but it actually seems to be the rarer variant so although more conventional looking it isn't really the "normal" version.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:31, 1 April 2012 (CDT)
:Would it be more accurate to say that the 627 is the stainless version of the 327? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:12, 11 April 2013 (EDT)

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Smith & Wesson Model 627-0, original 1989 model featuring unfluted 6 round cylinder and full length ejector shroud - .357 Magnum

Fun Fact

For shooting in the Bianci pistol competition, Jerry Miculek uses a Model 627 Performance Center with a spurred hammer, Hogue grips (his customs with his name), and fitted with a custom heavy barrel. It's been his competition pistol for some time. For his quick shooting competition, I believe he used a Custom 635. - Gunmaster45

Main image not a 627

Isn't this picture from the main page actually a nickel plated 27? --commando552 23:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I think it is. I've seen NO 627 that looks like this. The features look just like a Nickel Model 27. MoviePropMaster2008 21:27, 9 January 2012 (CST)
I think that saw it on the Smith & Wesson page, but now that i'm checking the page this image is no longer there, either ways i take the blame.
Smith & Wesson 627 - .357 Magnum.

Although I originally though it was a nickled Model 27, I now think it is actually a 627 as it has a .357 8 shot cylinder, and an untapered barrel. It isn't the original version of the 627 as that only had a 6 round cylinder, but have found sites that refer to this as the 627 Pro Series, which features a shorter 4" barrel, chamfered chambers and a target crown muzzle. However, the S&W site shows the 627 Pro Series as having an ejector shroud in the same style as the 627s on the main page, but I suppose this could be an earlier version. --commando552 13:50, 6 February 2012 (CST)

"Normal" 627s?

All the pictures are of eight shot Performance Center Model 627s. Are there any "normal" ones? (I assume there is such thing.) --Funkychinaman 16:44, 6 February 2012 (CST)

I spent ages trying to find this out earlier today trying to work out what the above image was of. As far as I can tell, 627s were always marketed as "Performance Centre" or "Pro Series" guns. Even the first variant that was released in 1989 (pictured at top of discussion page) is a "custom looking" (for lack of a better term) gun. I'm not totally familiar with S&W terminology, but I think the "Pro Series" guns are below "Performance Centre" guns in the pecking order. For example, S&W currently sells a "Pro Series" 627 which has a shorter 4" barrel (same slanted ejector shroud profile though) and synthetic grips, and the more expensive "Performance Centre" model which has a longer 5" barrel and comes with wood grips and a spare set of synthetic grips (tall pics on the main page are performance centre). Below is the "Pro Series" gun, which I think is the closest to a "normal" 627 that you can get:
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Smith & Wesson 627 "Pro Series" - .357 Magnum
I think the gun in the previous topic might be an earlier version of this gun, but as I can't find a single case of when of this pattern being owned or sold, I'm not certain if this is the case. --commando552 17:36, 6 February 2012 (CST)

I own what I guess could be considered a "normal" 627? I have a PDF file from S&W, but can't get an image of it uploaded at the moment. It's dated 2/1/08, and says that they're reintroducing the N-Frame Model 27, but renaming it the 627 because it will be made with stainless steel. It's the same gun pictured in the "Main image not a 627" entry. It's not set up to take moon clips. And I'm pretty sure it's discontinued. I was eyeing one at the local dealer's and looking up info online on it. I noticed that it vanished from the S&W website and emailed them, and got a response telling me that that particular one was going away. So I ran to the dealer and snagged it.--GunGeek7 22:14, 31 March 2012 (CDT)

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-Ok, got images uploaded. --GunGeek7 11:54, 1 April 2012 (CDT)

Is it really fair to say that this is a stainless version of the Model 27 then? It would appear that all 627s have eight round cylinders, not six. --Funkychinaman 12:27, 1 April 2012 (CDT)

Although I do believe that the pictured gun is a 627 variant, the text is a bit misleading as it implies that the gun pictured is the first variant of the 627 which isn't true. It is dated 2008, but the first 627 was made back in 1989 (which has a 6 round cylinder so was closer to the model 27). Production of the 8 shot version started in the late 90s and has continued till today, so I don't know why it seems that in 2008 they decided that they were just about to start producing it. Although I still don't understand what is going on with the 627 barrel profiles, from searching around it seems that the standard profile round barrel was available for a period and is now discontinued, but it actually seems to be the rarer variant so although more conventional looking it isn't really the "normal" version. --commando552 17:31, 1 April 2012 (CDT)

Would it be more accurate to say that the 627 is the stainless version of the 327? --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:12, 11 April 2013 (EDT)