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Is the title of this page wrong, as IMDB lists it as "District 13", and B13 is short for the original French title "Banlieue 13". "District B13" seems like it is redundant. Every poster and DVD I can find either calls it "District 13", or "B13/Banlieue 13". --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 20:02, 8 December 2011 (CST) | Is the title of this page wrong, as IMDB lists it as "District 13", and B13 is short for the original French title "Banlieue 13". "District B13" seems like it is redundant. Every poster and DVD I can find either calls it "District 13", or "B13/Banlieue 13". --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 20:02, 8 December 2011 (CST) | ||
:I agree, it's silly, but IMDB lists it as [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414852/combined "District B13"] That's also technically the American title, if you look at the release info. If you really wanted, I guess you can argue for the International English title, "13th District." And [http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4070937088/tt0414852 this poster] does say "District B13." --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:23, 8 December 2011 (CST) | |||
::For me IMDB has the title as District 13. Maybe it is trying to be a clever bastard by knowing where I am and giving me the English title. Have swapped the current poster for the US release one as per the rules. Sequel makes it more confusing, as it drops the B for the US version. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 20:44, 8 December 2011 (CST) | |||
:::You SHOULD mention you're a Brit in your user page. (then I can make bad teeth jokes, just kidding) That helps us figure things out like "why does Your google or IMDB show different things. They divert to the respective servers in your region of the world. you won't see stuff that Americans see. We see differences here all the time that are regional. You aren't the first Englishman to wonder why the hell we have stuff listed the way we do, since their "Amazon" or "IMDB" pages show something different. Sometimes you gotta trust us when we state that some items are listed a certain way in America :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:59, 21 January 2012 (CST) | |||
== La France M16K?? == | |||
On the page under Skorpian, the photo of the AR15 'pistol/smg' the henchman is holding MIGHT be a La France M16K. The barrel length in the shot looks good, and the original M16K uses the CAR-15 receiver. There's a 5.56 version and a .45 machine gun version. From the wikipedia page, "The M16K is a so-called "K" weapon ("K" standing for the German word Kurz meaning short.) The La France M16K, was basically a standard military M16 rifle, chambered for the standard issue 5.56 mm cartridge with an 8 3/8 inch (213 mm) barrel. The standard barrel length is 20 inches (508 mm)." What you think? | |||
---- Miyazawa (i have no clue how to sign these posts.....) | |||
== shotgun == | |||
Why wouldn't this be a Mossberg 500? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:47, 12 November 2013 (EST) | |||
[[Image:B13 DesertEagle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|To the left, one of Montoyas' guards reloads his Savage-Stevens 67H Pump Shotgun - 12 gauge]] | |||
== This Galil is 7.62mm model ? == | |||
[[Image:B13_Galil_02.jpg|800px|none|thumb|Left French National police men using Galil 7.62mm ARM ?]] | |||
I can see the shape of the magazine to be different on the left. --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 10:25, 13 November 2013 (JST) | |||
[[File:Banlieue 13 - Galil.jpg|700px|none|thumb|Definitely a 7.62 Galil.--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] ([[User talk:Crazycrankle|talk]]) 21:27, 12 November 2013 (EST)]] | |||
:I would like to edit, but it must have somehow the image of police men. Can you change to a new image of [[Media:B13_Galil_02.jpg]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 13:52, 13 November 2013 (JST) | |||
==SIG pistol== | |||
The pistol used by Leïto can't be a P228, since in the film it has a squared trigger guard, which is not the case for a P228 (except for the P228R, though this one has a rail, unlike the one in the film). Any ideas about the pistol? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 14:35, 20 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Really can't tell much with that image in that section (I assume you mean listed under the 'SIG Pro 2009' section). It does appear to be an intermediate/compact-sized SIG, but the newer squared trigger-guarded P228 and P229s indeed do have rails and, more importantly, weren't released until after this film's production I think. It could be a [[SIG-Sauer P225]], but again, it's tough to tell. That being said, this page really needs a good once-over. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:15, 20 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Eh, could be a P225. Since we're not sure about the pistol, I've changed the heading to SIG pistol until we identify it. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 18:44, 21 March 2015 (EDT) EDIT: Having updated the screencaps, I'm pretty sure it's a SIG Pro SP 2022. | |||
==Glock== | |||
I think the pistol used by Tomaso in the casino is always a Glock 33 and doesn't switch from a Glock 32. Look at these two screencaps at the instance where he holds it while still in his disguise. Isn't this the subcompact model? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 06:32, 25 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
[[File:B13 Glock 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | |||
[[File:B13 Glock 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | |||
:I'm pretty sure now that it's a 33 the whole time, I checked other shots of the same scene. I added a couple of Full HD screencaps to the page (and updated the two above); I'll replace the current low-res other ones later. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 09:11, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
I agree the Glock shown here and on the page is a subcompact,but I'd be really surprised if the actual gun used is really a 33 chambered in .357 Sig, when a 9mm G26 will look and perform exactly the same and cause less logistical headaches for the armoroer. Also the Glock 18s look to me to be 17L longslides. Look especially at the righthand gun and note how the slide extends past the frame.As an aside, I think BRI used to use Glock 17Ls.--[[User:Tecolote|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote|talk]]) 23:45, 2 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:I added another screencap that shows the fire selector, confirming that they are Glock 18s. Also, pretty sure that the "extensions" are actually some sort of compensators. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 14:38, 15 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
::Oh and in regards to the "Glock 33", an officer is seen dropping magazines to Damien, and I'm pretty sure they have 9x19mm rounds in them (plus, the later shots showing the magazines directly before they are loaded into the pistols have the same type of rounds. Therefore, there's no continuity error or something, based on the fact that the film crew definitely used different magazines, since the original ones must have been damaged on impact with the ground due to the height from which they were thrown). I'm gonna add screencaps and make updates to the page in a while. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 10:53, 17 January 2018 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 23:27, 2 December 2023
SG-550 is actually a SG-551?
I haven't actually seen this movie myself (so I can't study multiple screenshots) but when I happened upon this page, I could not help to notice that it seems the SG-550 is actually an SG-551.
I am not too experienced with the SG-55x series, but I noticed what appear to be 4 differences:
(1) handguard in screenshot has a 3 openings on the top side rather than 5 on the SG550, (2) the lower part of the handguard towards the magazine seems to be sloped downwards towards the trigger, rather than straight like on the SG550, (3) the lower forward part of the handguard (just above the flashlight) seems to have some sort of a rail-like dent, just like on the SG551, and (4) the external part of the barrel seems to be quite short, just like on the SG551.
Please let me know what you think and I will gladly make a revision, --PeeWee055 03:29, 7 October 2011 (CDT)
- It is a SG 551. :) - Mr. Wolf 12:06, 7 October 2011 (CDT)
Thanks a lot for the quick confirmation. As you may have seen, I revised the page plus the references on the respective gun pages. --PeeWee055 07:53, 8 October 2011 (CDT)
Title Wrong?
Is the title of this page wrong, as IMDB lists it as "District 13", and B13 is short for the original French title "Banlieue 13". "District B13" seems like it is redundant. Every poster and DVD I can find either calls it "District 13", or "B13/Banlieue 13". --commando552 20:02, 8 December 2011 (CST)
- I agree, it's silly, but IMDB lists it as "District B13" That's also technically the American title, if you look at the release info. If you really wanted, I guess you can argue for the International English title, "13th District." And this poster does say "District B13." --Funkychinaman 20:23, 8 December 2011 (CST)
- For me IMDB has the title as District 13. Maybe it is trying to be a clever bastard by knowing where I am and giving me the English title. Have swapped the current poster for the US release one as per the rules. Sequel makes it more confusing, as it drops the B for the US version. --commando552 20:44, 8 December 2011 (CST)
- You SHOULD mention you're a Brit in your user page. (then I can make bad teeth jokes, just kidding) That helps us figure things out like "why does Your google or IMDB show different things. They divert to the respective servers in your region of the world. you won't see stuff that Americans see. We see differences here all the time that are regional. You aren't the first Englishman to wonder why the hell we have stuff listed the way we do, since their "Amazon" or "IMDB" pages show something different. Sometimes you gotta trust us when we state that some items are listed a certain way in America :D MoviePropMaster2008 01:59, 21 January 2012 (CST)
- For me IMDB has the title as District 13. Maybe it is trying to be a clever bastard by knowing where I am and giving me the English title. Have swapped the current poster for the US release one as per the rules. Sequel makes it more confusing, as it drops the B for the US version. --commando552 20:44, 8 December 2011 (CST)
La France M16K??
On the page under Skorpian, the photo of the AR15 'pistol/smg' the henchman is holding MIGHT be a La France M16K. The barrel length in the shot looks good, and the original M16K uses the CAR-15 receiver. There's a 5.56 version and a .45 machine gun version. From the wikipedia page, "The M16K is a so-called "K" weapon ("K" standing for the German word Kurz meaning short.) The La France M16K, was basically a standard military M16 rifle, chambered for the standard issue 5.56 mm cartridge with an 8 3/8 inch (213 mm) barrel. The standard barrel length is 20 inches (508 mm)." What you think?
Miyazawa (i have no clue how to sign these posts.....)
shotgun
Why wouldn't this be a Mossberg 500? --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:47, 12 November 2013 (EST)
This Galil is 7.62mm model ?
I can see the shape of the magazine to be different on the left. --KINKI'boy (talk) 10:25, 13 November 2013 (JST)
- I would like to edit, but it must have somehow the image of police men. Can you change to a new image of Media:B13_Galil_02.jpg? --KINKI'boy (talk) 13:52, 13 November 2013 (JST)
SIG pistol
The pistol used by Leïto can't be a P228, since in the film it has a squared trigger guard, which is not the case for a P228 (except for the P228R, though this one has a rail, unlike the one in the film). Any ideas about the pistol? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 14:35, 20 March 2015 (EDT)
- Really can't tell much with that image in that section (I assume you mean listed under the 'SIG Pro 2009' section). It does appear to be an intermediate/compact-sized SIG, but the newer squared trigger-guarded P228 and P229s indeed do have rails and, more importantly, weren't released until after this film's production I think. It could be a SIG-Sauer P225, but again, it's tough to tell. That being said, this page really needs a good once-over. StanTheMan (talk) 22:15, 20 March 2015 (EDT)
- Eh, could be a P225. Since we're not sure about the pistol, I've changed the heading to SIG pistol until we identify it. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 18:44, 21 March 2015 (EDT) EDIT: Having updated the screencaps, I'm pretty sure it's a SIG Pro SP 2022.
Glock
I think the pistol used by Tomaso in the casino is always a Glock 33 and doesn't switch from a Glock 32. Look at these two screencaps at the instance where he holds it while still in his disguise. Isn't this the subcompact model? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 06:32, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
- I'm pretty sure now that it's a 33 the whole time, I checked other shots of the same scene. I added a couple of Full HD screencaps to the page (and updated the two above); I'll replace the current low-res other ones later. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:11, 1 November 2015 (EST)
I agree the Glock shown here and on the page is a subcompact,but I'd be really surprised if the actual gun used is really a 33 chambered in .357 Sig, when a 9mm G26 will look and perform exactly the same and cause less logistical headaches for the armoroer. Also the Glock 18s look to me to be 17L longslides. Look especially at the righthand gun and note how the slide extends past the frame.As an aside, I think BRI used to use Glock 17Ls.--Tecolote (talk) 23:45, 2 November 2015 (EST)
- I added another screencap that shows the fire selector, confirming that they are Glock 18s. Also, pretty sure that the "extensions" are actually some sort of compensators. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 14:38, 15 May 2017 (EDT)
- Oh and in regards to the "Glock 33", an officer is seen dropping magazines to Damien, and I'm pretty sure they have 9x19mm rounds in them (plus, the later shots showing the magazines directly before they are loaded into the pistols have the same type of rounds. Therefore, there's no continuity error or something, based on the fact that the film crew definitely used different magazines, since the original ones must have been damaged on impact with the ground due to the height from which they were thrown). I'm gonna add screencaps and make updates to the page in a while. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 10:53, 17 January 2018 (EST)