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== Additional Images == | |||
[[File:Vabank-Swordstick.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kwinto holds a sword cane that he used against the hitman.]] | |||
== Unidentified pistols == | == Unidentified pistols == | ||
I have problems with pistols in this movie. Please help to identify them. | I have problems with pistols in this movie. Please help to identify them. | ||
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I think the pistol on the first and second shot is the M/19 "Spanish". Ive added a website, so you can verify for yourself. http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/PISTOLS3.htm - G36Ghost. | I think the pistol on the first and second shot is the M/19 "Spanish". Ive added a website, so you can verify for yourself. http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/PISTOLS3.htm - G36Ghost. | ||
: Thank you! I look on the spanish pistol but it seems to me that "Kramer's pistol" is not M/19. It has more sharp lines, not curved as M/19 is. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 11:48, 22 October 2011 (CDT) | : Thank you! I look on the spanish pistol but it seems to me that "Kramer's pistol" is not M/19. It has more sharp lines, not curved as M/19 is. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 11:48, 22 October 2011 (CDT) | ||
My main reason to consider it an M/19 is the position of the serrations on the slide, as well as the positioning of the grips. If you take a look at the 1st screen shot they seem to resemble those of the M/19. But still, I'll keep looking.-G36Ghost | |||
: I think you are right that it is spanish pistol. Maybe one of many copies of FN-Browning models: Astra M200 or Walman, or Gloria M1913, or Hudson, or one of lot of 6.35 or 7.65 pistols made in Spain in 1910s-30s. So it will remain undentified, I suppose. :( [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 10:09, 23 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
: Here is some more cropped screenshots with this pistol. | |||
[[File:Vabank-pistol-select1.jpg]] | |||
[[File:Vabank-pistol-select2.jpg]] | |||
[[File:Vabank-pistol-select3.jpg]] | |||
[[File:Vabank-pistol-select4.jpg]] | |||
: Maybe it will be useful. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 10:40, 23 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT) | |||
::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT) | |||
::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::OK, let's call Revolver 1 "Custom Nagant". Agree? --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:44, 21 July 2020 (EDT) | |||
The second revolver is clearly some kind of [[Webley RIC]]-derivative. In any case, I do not remember another revolver with the Colt/S&W style frame, but a gate loader. The third is most likely the same. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 08:41, 23 July 2020 (EDT) | |||
==Beretta 1915 ID== | |||
Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT) | |||
:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 12:41, 23 July 2020
Additional Images
Unidentified pistols
I have problems with pistols in this movie. Please help to identify them.
The first and second screenshots show the same pistol. It look similar to Browning 1900 but I'm not shure. The third may be the same pistol and may be not...
Thanks in advance for any ideas! Greg-Z 04:07, 22 October 2011 (CDT)
I think the pistol on the first and second shot is the M/19 "Spanish". Ive added a website, so you can verify for yourself. http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/PISTOLS3.htm - G36Ghost.
- Thank you! I look on the spanish pistol but it seems to me that "Kramer's pistol" is not M/19. It has more sharp lines, not curved as M/19 is. Greg-Z 11:48, 22 October 2011 (CDT)
My main reason to consider it an M/19 is the position of the serrations on the slide, as well as the positioning of the grips. If you take a look at the 1st screen shot they seem to resemble those of the M/19. But still, I'll keep looking.-G36Ghost
- I think you are right that it is spanish pistol. Maybe one of many copies of FN-Browning models: Astra M200 or Walman, or Gloria M1913, or Hudson, or one of lot of 6.35 or 7.65 pistols made in Spain in 1910s-30s. So it will remain undentified, I suppose. :( Greg-Z 10:09, 23 October 2011 (CDT)
- Here is some more cropped screenshots with this pistol.
- Maybe it will be useful. Greg-Z 10:40, 23 October 2011 (CDT)
I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --Slon95 (talk) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
- Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --Greg-Z (talk) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
- The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --Slon95 (talk) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
- On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --Slon95 (talk) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
The second revolver is clearly some kind of Webley RIC-derivative. In any case, I do not remember another revolver with the Colt/S&W style frame, but a gate loader. The third is most likely the same. --Slon95 (talk) 08:41, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
Beretta 1915 ID
Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a Mauser Pocket Pistol of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --commando552 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
- You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser,
and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, Deja Vu.and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as Vabank was the only entry... Greg-Z 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)