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==Just saw the movie== | ==Just saw the movie== | ||
The second screenshot under Browning High Power Mark III is actually that of Clive Owen firing a H&K P7M13. The 1911 Robert Deniro uses is not a 1911, but some kind of .22 automatic (sorta like this: http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=45088), but he does use what appears to be a Commander sized 1911 near the beginning. A character played by Aden Young (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949237/) uses what looks like a 686 sized S&W revolver with a 2-3 inch barrel.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:09, 23 September 2011 (CDT) | The second screenshot under Browning High Power Mark III is actually that of Clive Owen firing a H&K P7M13. The 1911 Robert Deniro uses is not a 1911, but some kind of .22 automatic (sorta like this: http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=45088), but he does use what appears to be a Commander sized 1911 near the beginning. A character played by Aden Young (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949237/) uses what looks like a 686 sized S&W revolver with a 2-3 inch barrel.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:09, 23 September 2011 (CDT) | ||
== Anachronistic Weapons == | |||
Some of the weapons I saw being used in this movie, particularly the Glocks, are highly anachronistic since most of them do not belong in the time frame they are set in which is supposed to be in the early 1980s which is the time period 'The Feathermen', the novel on which this movie is loosely based, is set. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:19, 26 December 2011 (CST) | |||
1. If the movie is set in 1980 the Glock is anachronistic, if its set in the early 80s the Glock 17 might have been available. Didn't see the movie yet... Unless it specifically says year its tough to say one way or another. 2. Sig same deal. Could be a late first model 220, or if the movie is set after 84 could be time available as an early 226. 3. What is up with these movies being set in the 80s? There was nothing special about the 80s. I understand the book Killer Elite is based off of is set in the Early 80s, but why not update it to present day like the A team movie? [[User:Peejn8r|Peejn8r]] | |||
:Apparently the events in the book take place over the course of 17 years. I haven't seen it yet, but the movie's been out since September and it out on video. Someone had to have seen it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 13:54, 12 January 2012 (CST) | |||
::Because it's a refreshing change to see a film set in the era that it's supposed to be in. I hate it when they update books to modern day when they were set in a specific era in the first place. Apparently they're doing Without Remorse as modern day, the book is set during the Vietnam War and I hate that they aren't doing it in the period it was set in. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:22, 12 January 2012 (CST) | |||
I believe the movie starts in like '79 and the scene in question is like, '81 or '82. I might be wrong, as I saw it when it was in theaters and was unimpressed by it. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 21:27, 12 January 2012 (CST) | |||
:Which would make the Glock an anachronism as the first Glock was produced in 1983. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 00:42, 13 January 2012 (CST) | |||
:The opening scene explicitly takes place in 1980. The rest is set in 1981. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 23:28, 22 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
Well to be fair with the book itself, the events takes place over the course of years starting from 1980. The movie starts out in 80 and then after the opening scene in Mexico it goes to one year later to 81. The rest of the movie felt like it's taking them no time at all to get things done. There is no indication that years are passing the characters by. So let's assume all the events of the movie takes place within 1981 and not over the course of several years like the book. | |||
:The book takes place between 1974 and 1991, and I think the various assassinations occurred in 1976, 1979, 1981 and 1985. That's somewhat irrelevant though since the movie takes a lot of liberties with the source material by turning the book's villains into the heroes. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 17:13, 25 January 2012 (CST) | |||
About that, I am a bit irked by how all Jason Statham is this reluctant assassin guy. I wouldn't call him the "hero" of the story and neither who I call any of the main character heroes aside from Clive Owens. The assassins killed good men and the hand behind all this is the government they served. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:46, 25 January 2012 (CST) | |||
::Thing is you almost have to be aware of the historical context of the book. The whole concept is that the dying sheikh is seeking revenge against SAS troopers who were involved in the not so secret war in Oman during the late 60s/early 70s that culminated in the deaths of his son. This would have meant the sheikh, or his son, was allied with the PFLO a terrorist organization. Sorry for the history lesson but, what this all boils down to, is that Statham and his crew's characters were the bad guys and Owen was the good guy. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:26, 25 January 2012 (CST) | |||
I am thinking about capping this movie but it would require me to get the DVD of it. I don't have a Blu ray drive on my computer. If anyone else wants to go at it with a Blu Ray quality, feel free to lay claim to it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:32, 25 January 2012 (CST) | |||
== Unknown snub == | |||
Smith & Wesson Model 629 or 627 snub? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 02:08, 6 February 2012 (CST) | |||
I'm not familiar with Smith & Wesson guns to make that call [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 09:50, 6 February 2012 (CST) | |||
:I'm thinking nickel Model 27 w/ 3.5" barrel, judging by the barrel profile and ejector shroud. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 10:02, 6 February 2012 (CST) | |||
[[Image:KESnub2.jpg|none|thumb|600px|]] | |||
[[Image:S&WRev.jpg |thumb|none|400px|S&W Model 27-2 - .357 magnum with 3.5" barrel.]] | |||
==Add'l screenshots== | |||
[[Image:KillerElite-M727v.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[Image:KillerElite-M727.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[Image:KEGalil.jpg|none|thumb|500px|Hunter ([[Robert De Niro]]) can be seen carrying a [[Galil SAR]] in a production still]] | |||
==Unknown rifle== | |||
During the desert tunnel chase, Martin ([[Ben Mendelsohn]]), one of the ex-SAS "Locals", can be seen wielding a .22 caliber rifle fitted with a wire stock. | |||
[[Image:KERifleUnknown.jpg|none|thumb|600px|The man runs with the rifle in hand.]] | |||
Latest revision as of 03:28, 23 March 2015
Just saw the movie
The second screenshot under Browning High Power Mark III is actually that of Clive Owen firing a H&K P7M13. The 1911 Robert Deniro uses is not a 1911, but some kind of .22 automatic (sorta like this: http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=45088), but he does use what appears to be a Commander sized 1911 near the beginning. A character played by Aden Young (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949237/) uses what looks like a 686 sized S&W revolver with a 2-3 inch barrel.-S&Wshooter 22:09, 23 September 2011 (CDT)
Anachronistic Weapons
Some of the weapons I saw being used in this movie, particularly the Glocks, are highly anachronistic since most of them do not belong in the time frame they are set in which is supposed to be in the early 1980s which is the time period 'The Feathermen', the novel on which this movie is loosely based, is set. --Charon68 20:19, 26 December 2011 (CST)
1. If the movie is set in 1980 the Glock is anachronistic, if its set in the early 80s the Glock 17 might have been available. Didn't see the movie yet... Unless it specifically says year its tough to say one way or another. 2. Sig same deal. Could be a late first model 220, or if the movie is set after 84 could be time available as an early 226. 3. What is up with these movies being set in the 80s? There was nothing special about the 80s. I understand the book Killer Elite is based off of is set in the Early 80s, but why not update it to present day like the A team movie? Peejn8r
- Apparently the events in the book take place over the course of 17 years. I haven't seen it yet, but the movie's been out since September and it out on video. Someone had to have seen it. --Funkychinaman 13:54, 12 January 2012 (CST)
- Because it's a refreshing change to see a film set in the era that it's supposed to be in. I hate it when they update books to modern day when they were set in a specific era in the first place. Apparently they're doing Without Remorse as modern day, the book is set during the Vietnam War and I hate that they aren't doing it in the period it was set in. --cool-breeze 14:22, 12 January 2012 (CST)
I believe the movie starts in like '79 and the scene in question is like, '81 or '82. I might be wrong, as I saw it when it was in theaters and was unimpressed by it. BeardedHoplite 21:27, 12 January 2012 (CST)
- Which would make the Glock an anachronism as the first Glock was produced in 1983. --cool-breeze 00:42, 13 January 2012 (CST)
- The opening scene explicitly takes place in 1980. The rest is set in 1981. --Maxman (talk) 23:28, 22 March 2015 (EDT)
Well to be fair with the book itself, the events takes place over the course of years starting from 1980. The movie starts out in 80 and then after the opening scene in Mexico it goes to one year later to 81. The rest of the movie felt like it's taking them no time at all to get things done. There is no indication that years are passing the characters by. So let's assume all the events of the movie takes place within 1981 and not over the course of several years like the book.
- The book takes place between 1974 and 1991, and I think the various assassinations occurred in 1976, 1979, 1981 and 1985. That's somewhat irrelevant though since the movie takes a lot of liberties with the source material by turning the book's villains into the heroes. --Markit 17:13, 25 January 2012 (CST)
About that, I am a bit irked by how all Jason Statham is this reluctant assassin guy. I wouldn't call him the "hero" of the story and neither who I call any of the main character heroes aside from Clive Owens. The assassins killed good men and the hand behind all this is the government they served. Excalibur01 19:46, 25 January 2012 (CST)
- Thing is you almost have to be aware of the historical context of the book. The whole concept is that the dying sheikh is seeking revenge against SAS troopers who were involved in the not so secret war in Oman during the late 60s/early 70s that culminated in the deaths of his son. This would have meant the sheikh, or his son, was allied with the PFLO a terrorist organization. Sorry for the history lesson but, what this all boils down to, is that Statham and his crew's characters were the bad guys and Owen was the good guy. --Charon68 20:26, 25 January 2012 (CST)
I am thinking about capping this movie but it would require me to get the DVD of it. I don't have a Blu ray drive on my computer. If anyone else wants to go at it with a Blu Ray quality, feel free to lay claim to it Excalibur01 16:32, 25 January 2012 (CST)
Unknown snub
Smith & Wesson Model 629 or 627 snub? --Funkychinaman 02:08, 6 February 2012 (CST)
I'm not familiar with Smith & Wesson guns to make that call Excalibur01 09:50, 6 February 2012 (CST)
- I'm thinking nickel Model 27 w/ 3.5" barrel, judging by the barrel profile and ejector shroud. --Predator20 10:02, 6 February 2012 (CST)
Add'l screenshots
Unknown rifle
During the desert tunnel chase, Martin (Ben Mendelsohn), one of the ex-SAS "Locals", can be seen wielding a .22 caliber rifle fitted with a wire stock.
