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=Additional Images= | |||
[[File:TWINE Ult.jpg|thumb|none|300px]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
I saw this movie on BBC America yesterday and wish I had this on DVD (I have it somewhere on VHS), this page needs to be screencapped. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | I saw this movie on BBC America yesterday and wish I had this on DVD (I have it somewhere on VHS), this page needs to be screencapped. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | ||
:It's on my list, I'll try to have it sometime this week. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] | :It's on my list, I'll try to have it sometime this week. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] | ||
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::I'm pretty sure she wasn't at enough of a distance either time for bullet drop to be an issue. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:42, 6 September 2011 (CDT) | ::I'm pretty sure she wasn't at enough of a distance either time for bullet drop to be an issue. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:42, 6 September 2011 (CDT) | ||
:::But it's still incorrect for a sniper to use a laser sight. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:14, 7 September 2011 (CDT) | :::But it's still incorrect for a sniper to use a laser sight. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:14, 7 September 2011 (CDT) | ||
:::: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LaserSight It's a cliche]. Roll with it. | :::: [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LaserSight It's a cliche]. Roll with it.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:15, 7 September 2011 (CDT) | ||
:::::I know, I'm just sayn'. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 18:32, 8 September 2011 (CDT) | |||
::::::She wasn't the sniper Bond was talking about, Renard was the one who shot the banker's henchman. He used a lser sight to send a message to Bond. [[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 16:05, 23 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
:::::::Yeah, the only reason a sniper ''might'' (and I use that term lightly) use a laser sight is for message sending/intimidation. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 17:56, 23 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
==Additional Screenshots== | ==Additional Screenshots== | ||
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[[Image:Twine-wp99h.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond puts his P99 to Renard's head.]] | [[Image:Twine-wp99h.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond puts his P99 to Renard's head.]] | ||
[[Image:Twine-wp99g.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond greets Renard with his P99.]] | [[Image:Twine-wp99g.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond greets Renard with his P99.]] | ||
[[Image:Twine-wp99m.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond trades shots with Renard's men.]] | [[Image:Twine-wp99m.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond trades shots with Renard's men. Note that the slide jumps 3 times in this shot, but only 2 gunshots are heard coming from Bond's P99]] | ||
[[Image:Twine-wp99k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond's suppressed P99 lays on the ground.]] | [[Image:Twine-wp99k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond's suppressed P99 lays on the ground.]] | ||
[[Image:Twine-m1911b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond holds the M1911A1 as the banker is stabbed in the neck by the "Cigar Girl".]] | [[Image:Twine-m1911b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bond holds the M1911A1 as the banker is stabbed in the neck by the "Cigar Girl".]] | ||
==Moved from Main Page== | ==Moved from Main Page== | ||
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OK, to head off a potential edit war re: Street Sweeper vs. Striker, can someone get a screenshot of the weapon when it's on the deck? I would do it myself but I can't find my brother's copy of the DVD.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:03, 7 September 2011 (CDT) | OK, to head off a potential edit war re: Street Sweeper vs. Striker, can someone get a screenshot of the weapon when it's on the deck? I would do it myself but I can't find my brother's copy of the DVD.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:03, 7 September 2011 (CDT) | ||
==Not a Llama M82 == | |||
[[Image:Twine-beretta1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Basque Police officers with replica guns.]] | |||
The guns used by the "spanish police" are not Llama M82 (note the absence of a slide-mounted safety. Actually, they are not real guns, but blank-firing replicas. Due to strict spanish gun laws, replica guns are usually used in movies filmed in Spain. By the way, the officers are members of the Basque police (or "Ertzaintza" in Basque languague). Spain's territory is divided in several regions and some of them have their own police force. It would be wrong to show the Basque Police carrying the Llama M82. This gun was adopted by the Spanish Army, but it has not been used by any police force in Spain. The Basque police, when the movie was filmed, used the Star model 30 (the alloy framed model 30-PK, I think). Star has been out of business for about 20 years, and most police forces in Spain have replaced their pistols for european-made handguns. The National police replaced the Star 28 PK with the Heckler & Koch USP compact; The Guardia Civil now carries the Beretta 92 FS instead of the Star BM; The Catalonian police uses the Walther p-99 and Heckler & Koch USP compact instead of the Star 30 and Astra 960 revolver. I think that the Basque Police now issues the Heckler & Koch USP compact, although I'm not sure. | |||
==Recent Screencap Additions/Changes== | |||
It seems a major load of screencaps have been uploaded just recently. Many do look a bit better than the older caps but some of them aren't good images and many of them seem to be there simply to show parts of the story or emphasize a scene rather than give good showings of the gun. Also, some sections now also have what seem to be too many images for their respective entries as well. More than that, it seems these are all new screencaps uploaded fresh, and NOT as updates of old images, meaning there's now a whole set of screencaps floating around and not linked to this page that someone will have to find and sort through to either keep or mark for deletion (a few duplicates are here on the talk page, but as you'll see from the logs there's a big load of images that have been added). I'd make a note on the talk page of the user who did this but I don't think that's my place - still, something that should be noted/addressed. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:59, 1 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Banker Handguns == | |||
Looking through the images again, the 1911 style pistol that Bond uses in the Bank in Spain looks more like a Star to me then a Colt. There's a lot of writing on the slide and the hammer is down goes past the grip safety, which does not happen on my 1911. However I'm not entirely sure as I have been wrong in identifying handguns before, so if a more experienced user could tell me whether I'm right or wrong, that would be great [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 23:48, 5 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
: Colts actually have that same amount of writing on that side on some 1911s (the markings consist of all the various patent dates IIRC). That said, Bond definitely uses an M1911A1 - Ignoring the fact we have an image of the screen-used gun itself on the page, look and compare closely you'll see the markings don't match the Star, particular in that they don't include the large 'STAR' lettering, the rear of the slide doesn't match with a Star but does with a Colt, same with the safety, grips and hammer. Finally in the one shot that shows the right side of the gun, you'll note there is no external extractor which would be present on a Model B. (Also better seen in the last screencap posted in the 'Additional Screenshots' section here in the discussion page above, where you'll also note the large .45-sized bore of the gun as well.) [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 02:56, 6 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 00:16, 29 July 2023
Additional Images
Discussion
I saw this movie on BBC America yesterday and wish I had this on DVD (I have it somewhere on VHS), this page needs to be screencapped. - Gunmaster45
- It's on my list, I'll try to have it sometime this week. - Speakeasy804
who puts a scope on a G36 when is has a built in scope.
- To get a higher magnification than the standard scope, the built in scope only has a 3.5 magnification. - Mr. Wolf 21:25, 4 September 2011 (CDT)
Moved from Main Page
Bond tells M he knows the sniper was "professional", even though most seasoned snipers wouldn't use the laser like the Cigar Girl does (because a laser shoots a direct line a bullet fires in an arc and at distance lasers aren't affected by wind, or barometric pressure).
- It also gives away your position big time. - Mr. Wolf 21:25, 4 September 2011 (CDT)
- I'm pretty sure she wasn't at enough of a distance either time for bullet drop to be an issue. The Wierd It 16:42, 6 September 2011 (CDT)
- But it's still incorrect for a sniper to use a laser sight. - Mr. Wolf 16:14, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
- It's a cliche. Roll with it.The Wierd It 16:15, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
- I know, I'm just sayn'. - Mr. Wolf 18:32, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
- She wasn't the sniper Bond was talking about, Renard was the one who shot the banker's henchman. He used a lser sight to send a message to Bond. TheHeartbreakKid15 16:05, 23 October 2011 (CDT)
- I know, I'm just sayn'. - Mr. Wolf 18:32, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
- It's a cliche. Roll with it.The Wierd It 16:15, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
- But it's still incorrect for a sniper to use a laser sight. - Mr. Wolf 16:14, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
- I'm pretty sure she wasn't at enough of a distance either time for bullet drop to be an issue. The Wierd It 16:42, 6 September 2011 (CDT)
- Yeah, the only reason a sniper might (and I use that term lightly) use a laser sight is for message sending/intimidation. - Mr. Wolf 17:56, 23 October 2011 (CDT)
Additional Screenshots
Moved from Main Page
- Pretty sure these are AKMSs, not AKS-74Us. The barrels are too long and of course they are underfolders. - Gunmaster45
- Guard on the left holds AKMS, but guard on the right holds AKS-74U. - RedCharger
- The guard on the right holds an AKS-74, not an AKS-74U. The barrel is way too long to be an 'U'. Ramell 00:33, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Street Sweeper
OK, to head off a potential edit war re: Street Sweeper vs. Striker, can someone get a screenshot of the weapon when it's on the deck? I would do it myself but I can't find my brother's copy of the DVD.The Wierd It 16:03, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
Not a Llama M82
The guns used by the "spanish police" are not Llama M82 (note the absence of a slide-mounted safety. Actually, they are not real guns, but blank-firing replicas. Due to strict spanish gun laws, replica guns are usually used in movies filmed in Spain. By the way, the officers are members of the Basque police (or "Ertzaintza" in Basque languague). Spain's territory is divided in several regions and some of them have their own police force. It would be wrong to show the Basque Police carrying the Llama M82. This gun was adopted by the Spanish Army, but it has not been used by any police force in Spain. The Basque police, when the movie was filmed, used the Star model 30 (the alloy framed model 30-PK, I think). Star has been out of business for about 20 years, and most police forces in Spain have replaced their pistols for european-made handguns. The National police replaced the Star 28 PK with the Heckler & Koch USP compact; The Guardia Civil now carries the Beretta 92 FS instead of the Star BM; The Catalonian police uses the Walther p-99 and Heckler & Koch USP compact instead of the Star 30 and Astra 960 revolver. I think that the Basque Police now issues the Heckler & Koch USP compact, although I'm not sure.
Recent Screencap Additions/Changes
It seems a major load of screencaps have been uploaded just recently. Many do look a bit better than the older caps but some of them aren't good images and many of them seem to be there simply to show parts of the story or emphasize a scene rather than give good showings of the gun. Also, some sections now also have what seem to be too many images for their respective entries as well. More than that, it seems these are all new screencaps uploaded fresh, and NOT as updates of old images, meaning there's now a whole set of screencaps floating around and not linked to this page that someone will have to find and sort through to either keep or mark for deletion (a few duplicates are here on the talk page, but as you'll see from the logs there's a big load of images that have been added). I'd make a note on the talk page of the user who did this but I don't think that's my place - still, something that should be noted/addressed. StanTheMan (talk) 14:59, 1 June 2016 (EDT)
Banker Handguns
Looking through the images again, the 1911 style pistol that Bond uses in the Bank in Spain looks more like a Star to me then a Colt. There's a lot of writing on the slide and the hammer is down goes past the grip safety, which does not happen on my 1911. However I'm not entirely sure as I have been wrong in identifying handguns before, so if a more experienced user could tell me whether I'm right or wrong, that would be great Bristow8411 (talk) 23:48, 5 September 2016 (EDT)
- Colts actually have that same amount of writing on that side on some 1911s (the markings consist of all the various patent dates IIRC). That said, Bond definitely uses an M1911A1 - Ignoring the fact we have an image of the screen-used gun itself on the page, look and compare closely you'll see the markings don't match the Star, particular in that they don't include the large 'STAR' lettering, the rear of the slide doesn't match with a Star but does with a Colt, same with the safety, grips and hammer. Finally in the one shot that shows the right side of the gun, you'll note there is no external extractor which would be present on a Model B. (Also better seen in the last screencap posted in the 'Additional Screenshots' section here in the discussion page above, where you'll also note the large .45-sized bore of the gun as well.) StanTheMan (talk) 02:56, 6 September 2016 (EDT)