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Seriously, the creators did some serious research on this. At least for the manga, the creators actually took a trip to Chicago to get correct settings and detailed backgrounds, went to a real gun story to get information. The characters knows about bullet in the chamber indicator. They really went all out for this one. And as a resident of Chicago, I'm impressed. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC) | Seriously, the creators did some serious research on this. At least for the manga, the creators actually took a trip to Chicago to get correct settings and detailed backgrounds, went to a real gun story to get information. The characters knows about bullet in the chamber indicator. They really went all out for this one. And as a resident of Chicago, I'm impressed. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Same here. I just got the first volume on VHS. Now I have to find my old VHS player. I have all the manga, though. Which are awesome.-protoAuthor | :Same here. I just got the first volume on VHS. Now I have to find my old VHS player. I have all the manga, though. Which are awesome.-protoAuthor | ||
::After looking at and editing this page a lot, I would very much love to see this anime too. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 19:09, 3 August 2011 (CDT) | |||
:::Many years ago, I think Gunsmith Cats' detailed portrayals of its weapons and the little details (like the chamber indicator) was responsible for my deep love of researching the firearms in movies - it's also responsible for my love of Shelby GT500s, come to think of it. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 20:11, 28 August 2011 (CDT) | |||
Fun random fact: When Radinov was first introduced, I thought she was a man until they said otherwise. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:46, 9 February 2016 (EST) | |||
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Can I get some other peoples opinions on if the [[Welrod Pistol|Welrod]] is a Mark I or a Mark II. I say it's a incorrectly scaled Mark II due to the lack of a trigger guard, Tim says it's a Mark I with the suppressor detached. What do you guys think? Personally I'll go with ether one at this point. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:23, 2 August 2011 (CDT) | Can I get some other peoples opinions on if the [[Welrod Pistol|Welrod]] is a Mark I or a Mark II. I say it's a incorrectly scaled Mark II due to the lack of a trigger guard, Tim says it's a Mark I with the suppressor detached. What do you guys think? Personally I'll go with ether one at this point. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:23, 2 August 2011 (CDT) | ||
:Thanks a bunch mate. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 22:52, 2 August 2011 (CDT) | :I agree with you that it is a Mark II. Firstly, it lacks a trigger guard as you said. Secondly, in the shots where the sight is at the front and there is a possibility it is a Mark I with silencer removed, that isn't at all like what the front of a Welrod looks like when you remove the silencer. The gun has a male thread around the outside of the jacket for a couple of centimetres, and the barrel protrudes out slightly into the silencer. In these pictures however, you can clearly see the muzzle is set back into the hollow end cap of the silencer. I think the extreme angles and poor scaling are to blame for its rather short look in the front-on pics. More specifically, I would call it a Mark IIA as the ejection port is not a smooth oval shape, and the front sight post is of the shorter type and set back from the muzzle. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:09, 2 August 2011 (CDT) | ||
::Thanks a bunch mate. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 22:52, 2 August 2011 (CDT) | |||
I guess I was thinking in terms of which model changing length would be least incorrect for rather than which model it looked most like despite changing length. Eh, I'll concede, though we should at least note one Welrod can actually (sort of) do that. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:32, 3 August 2011 (CDT) | |||
== Early CZ75 vs Current CZ75 == | |||
Rally mentions how the earlier version has harder steel and is more accurate than current production CZ75. I believe this is mostly myth and stems from Cold War nostalgia. Modern CZ75 are just as good if not better. The material today is much better quality and more consistent quality control than under communist management. Also the new CZ75 is produced on modern machines which gives it cleaner machining and closer tolerances. If I were Rally, I wouldn't mind because a CZ75 made today is just as good as a early production CZ75. | |||
We won't truly know without extensive testings between the two guns. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 08:27, 30 January 2013 (EST) | |||
== Episode one, K9 officer's revolver == | |||
It appears that the officer's gun is a heavy barrel service revolver of some sort, likely S&W Model 10 from the shape and partial underlug, when he first draws it from the holster; But in a continuity error after Rally tells him about the loose parts, it looks like a short barrel Ruger Sp101, due to the full underlug and shape of it. I'll see if I can find a set of the DVD's or something to get a screen-grab from. [[User:Uberdood|Uberdood]] ([[User talk:Uberdood|talk]]) 23:55, 19 March 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Settei drawings == | |||
So I was thinking that if legally acquired settei material was available, would it be alright to post those on IMFDB pages for anime? I bought the blurays for GSC and have the digital scans of the artbook. Was thinking it would be the anime equivalent of those armorer pictures of screen guns, as these are the technical drawings that the animators reference.--[[User:Aidoru|Aidoru]] ([[User talk:Aidoru|talk]]) 01:56, 2 January 2021 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 06:56, 2 January 2021
Re: rally's sleeve gun
This article seems to be conflating the manga and anime versions, however, since it's been a while since I watched it, I don't like to disrupt things I'm not certain of. I don't recall the details as the anime presents them, but in the manga, in fact, the Colt .25 is a gun that Rally keeps under her pillow at night - it only appears in the manga issue where she is kept in hospital overnight and can't sleep without its familiar feel and smell under her pillow. Her sleeve-mounted gun is a Czech-made Duo (like this one), also in .25 (or 6.35mm) and can be distinguished from the Colt .25 by its sawnoff trigger guard, while the Colt still has a trigger guard. At a later stage in the manga's story she bemoans all her guns being confiscated by the police, in which she refers to the Duo by name.
Also, (IIRC) the anime and manga differ regarding her spring-rigged sleeve armature, in that in the manga it is triggered by pulling a string, rather than flexing her wrist. This is clearly visible in the story where a thug holds Minnie-Mae hostage and forces her to strip, during which process she pops the Duo out and shoots his trigger finger off. I think the anime simplified this as simply popping out with a flick of the wrist.
YourMessageHere 18:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- No, pretty sure it's a flick of the wrist, but I'll check, got the manga today. I'd do additions to the page of manga stuff, if comics were allowed.-protoAuthor.
- Yeah, it's a flick of the wrist. Just checked it.-protoAuthor
I love this anime
Seriously, the creators did some serious research on this. At least for the manga, the creators actually took a trip to Chicago to get correct settings and detailed backgrounds, went to a real gun story to get information. The characters knows about bullet in the chamber indicator. They really went all out for this one. And as a resident of Chicago, I'm impressed. Excalibur01 05:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Same here. I just got the first volume on VHS. Now I have to find my old VHS player. I have all the manga, though. Which are awesome.-protoAuthor
- After looking at and editing this page a lot, I would very much love to see this anime too. :) - Mr. Wolf 19:09, 3 August 2011 (CDT)
- Many years ago, I think Gunsmith Cats' detailed portrayals of its weapons and the little details (like the chamber indicator) was responsible for my deep love of researching the firearms in movies - it's also responsible for my love of Shelby GT500s, come to think of it. Atypicaloracle 20:11, 28 August 2011 (CDT)
- After looking at and editing this page a lot, I would very much love to see this anime too. :) - Mr. Wolf 19:09, 3 August 2011 (CDT)
Fun random fact: When Radinov was first introduced, I thought she was a man until they said otherwise. Spartan198 (talk) 07:46, 9 February 2016 (EST)
Error in Page
To those reading this able to edit the main page:
The Makarov is not the piece being used by Radinov, the two small studs at the top front of the trigger guard visible in the screen shot are distinctive to the CZ-52 compare for yourselves.
A Gun Identified.
I'm Wiki-stupid so if someone is able to edit the main page, here are a couple of guns on Rally's wall that I've identified:
1. In the picture of the guy holding the Steyr AUG, the gun in the top left corner of the picture, hanging on Rally's wall is either a Smith & Wesson Model 1 or Model 2 (most likely a #2).
2. Right below that appears to be a Remington 1858 New Army (cap and ball) or a Remington 1875 (cartridge) revolver.
That's all I got off the top of my head.
Welrod
Can I get some other peoples opinions on if the Welrod is a Mark I or a Mark II. I say it's a incorrectly scaled Mark II due to the lack of a trigger guard, Tim says it's a Mark I with the suppressor detached. What do you guys think? Personally I'll go with ether one at this point. - Mr. Wolf 16:23, 2 August 2011 (CDT)
- I agree with you that it is a Mark II. Firstly, it lacks a trigger guard as you said. Secondly, in the shots where the sight is at the front and there is a possibility it is a Mark I with silencer removed, that isn't at all like what the front of a Welrod looks like when you remove the silencer. The gun has a male thread around the outside of the jacket for a couple of centimetres, and the barrel protrudes out slightly into the silencer. In these pictures however, you can clearly see the muzzle is set back into the hollow end cap of the silencer. I think the extreme angles and poor scaling are to blame for its rather short look in the front-on pics. More specifically, I would call it a Mark IIA as the ejection port is not a smooth oval shape, and the front sight post is of the shorter type and set back from the muzzle. --commando552 19:09, 2 August 2011 (CDT)
- Thanks a bunch mate. :) - Mr. Wolf 22:52, 2 August 2011 (CDT)
I guess I was thinking in terms of which model changing length would be least incorrect for rather than which model it looked most like despite changing length. Eh, I'll concede, though we should at least note one Welrod can actually (sort of) do that. Evil Tim 07:32, 3 August 2011 (CDT)
Early CZ75 vs Current CZ75
Rally mentions how the earlier version has harder steel and is more accurate than current production CZ75. I believe this is mostly myth and stems from Cold War nostalgia. Modern CZ75 are just as good if not better. The material today is much better quality and more consistent quality control than under communist management. Also the new CZ75 is produced on modern machines which gives it cleaner machining and closer tolerances. If I were Rally, I wouldn't mind because a CZ75 made today is just as good as a early production CZ75.
We won't truly know without extensive testings between the two guns. Excalibur01 (talk) 08:27, 30 January 2013 (EST)
Episode one, K9 officer's revolver
It appears that the officer's gun is a heavy barrel service revolver of some sort, likely S&W Model 10 from the shape and partial underlug, when he first draws it from the holster; But in a continuity error after Rally tells him about the loose parts, it looks like a short barrel Ruger Sp101, due to the full underlug and shape of it. I'll see if I can find a set of the DVD's or something to get a screen-grab from. Uberdood (talk) 23:55, 19 March 2019 (EDT)
Settei drawings
So I was thinking that if legally acquired settei material was available, would it be alright to post those on IMFDB pages for anime? I bought the blurays for GSC and have the digital scans of the artbook. Was thinking it would be the anime equivalent of those armorer pictures of screen guns, as these are the technical drawings that the animators reference.--Aidoru (talk) 01:56, 2 January 2021 (EST)