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And 9mm weapons are far more common, and reliable. Accuracy really doesn't matter all that much in film and television. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 07:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC) | And 9mm weapons are far more common, and reliable. Accuracy really doesn't matter all that much in film and television. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 07:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
:I'm going to re-post what it says on our [[Glock]] page: | :I'm going to re-post what it says on our [[Glock pistol series|Glock]] page: | ||
:''NOTE: Although the Glock 22 is an issue weapon for the FBI, this does not mean that characters who are FBI Agents in movies or TV shows necessarily use them. Hollywood's propmasters and armorers preferred, until recently, to use 9x19mm pistols, due to the difficulties of converting larger calibers to blank-fire. '''Consequently, there are almost no Glock 22s in movies or TV shows; if a character is supposed to be an FBI Agent, it is most likely that they are using a Glock 17, standing in for the Glock 22.''' IMFDB members have frequently made the assumption that any Glock used by an FBI Agent in a movie must be a .40-caliber model, even though (it bears repeating) the weapons used in movies do not always correspond to the weapons used by a particular law enforcement agency in real life. Unless you have good evidence, do not assume that a Glock pistol is a .40-caliber model, simply because the FBI uses this weapon in real life. When in doubt, it is usually safer to assume that the Glock in question is a 9mm model.'' | :''NOTE: Although the Glock 22 is an issue weapon for the FBI, this does not mean that characters who are FBI Agents in movies or TV shows necessarily use them. Hollywood's propmasters and armorers preferred, until recently, to use 9x19mm pistols, due to the difficulties of converting larger calibers to blank-fire. '''Consequently, there are almost no Glock 22s in movies or TV shows; if a character is supposed to be an FBI Agent, it is most likely that they are using a Glock 17, standing in for the Glock 22.''' IMFDB members have frequently made the assumption that any Glock used by an FBI Agent in a movie must be a .40-caliber model, even though (it bears repeating) the weapons used in movies do not always correspond to the weapons used by a particular law enforcement agency in real life. Unless you have good evidence, do not assume that a Glock pistol is a .40-caliber model, simply because the FBI uses this weapon in real life. When in doubt, it is usually safer to assume that the Glock in question is a 9mm model.'' | ||
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:Because they're probably not ready to shoot. It takes maybe a second or less to put your finger on the trigger. I was taught to keep your finger away from the trigger until you've found your target, finger over the trigger whilst aiming, and finally finger on trigger when ready to fire. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]] | :Because they're probably not ready to shoot. It takes maybe a second or less to put your finger on the trigger. I was taught to keep your finger away from the trigger until you've found your target, finger over the trigger whilst aiming, and finally finger on trigger when ready to fire. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]] | ||
It's called trigger discipline. It shows that the actors have been trained in the correct manner in using their weapons. It's rather unsafe to hold a gun on someone with your finger on the trigger as a shock or spasm can cause your fingers to tighten thus end up accidentally shooting the person. As | It's called trigger discipline. It shows that the actors have been trained in the correct manner in using their weapons. It's rather unsafe to hold a gun on someone with your finger on the trigger as a shock or spasm can cause your fingers to tighten thus end up accidentally shooting the person. As Winn said it takes less than a second to slip your finger onto the trigger and squeeze it which is plenty of time. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 11:35, 24 July 2011 (CDT) | ||
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Glocks
The Glocks should be model 22 and 23, not 17 and 19. They are carried by FBI agents, and the FBI uses those .40 S&W models. Axeman 06:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
And 9mm weapons are far more common, and reliable. Accuracy really doesn't matter all that much in film and television. --Crazycrankle 07:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm going to re-post what it says on our Glock page:
- NOTE: Although the Glock 22 is an issue weapon for the FBI, this does not mean that characters who are FBI Agents in movies or TV shows necessarily use them. Hollywood's propmasters and armorers preferred, until recently, to use 9x19mm pistols, due to the difficulties of converting larger calibers to blank-fire. Consequently, there are almost no Glock 22s in movies or TV shows; if a character is supposed to be an FBI Agent, it is most likely that they are using a Glock 17, standing in for the Glock 22. IMFDB members have frequently made the assumption that any Glock used by an FBI Agent in a movie must be a .40-caliber model, even though (it bears repeating) the weapons used in movies do not always correspond to the weapons used by a particular law enforcement agency in real life. Unless you have good evidence, do not assume that a Glock pistol is a .40-caliber model, simply because the FBI uses this weapon in real life. When in doubt, it is usually safer to assume that the Glock in question is a 9mm model.
- So the short answer is, no, the Glocks do not necessarily have to be G22s and G23s, because this is a TV show, not real life. If you are trying to identify guns in a TV show on the basis of real life, you are thinking the wrong way. -MT2008 15:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- What is interesting is that in order to blank adapt our 9mm Glocks, we bore out the barrel. I will take a shot of a bored out Movie Blank adapted Glock from the FRONT so that people can see how much LARGER it makes it look :) Good Call. MoviePropMaster2008 04:47, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- I've actually seen some close-up pictures of blank-converted Glocks (i.e. when Prop Store was selling the Glock 17 that Matt Damon used in The Bourne Ultimatum). Does the bore really look significantly wider when it gets threaded for the BFA? I've seen some Glocks that really looked too big to be 9mm, even blank-adapted.
- Also, I've been told by a couple of armorers that they do use .40-caliber Glocks sometimes. Steve Karnes told me once that he's used some .40-caliber Glocks on TV shows, and I know for sure that Chuck has had some 3rd Gen Glock 22s in a few episodes. But their use is generally the exception to the rule; I've also been told that 9mm Glocks are still by far the most common types seen in Hollywood, and this is true regardless of whether the guns were provided by American, Canadian, or European armorers. -MT2008 15:11, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Finger off the Trigger
Why do the actors keep their fingers off the trigger when pointing guns at enemies? -Racegun 20:04, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- Because they're probably not ready to shoot. It takes maybe a second or less to put your finger on the trigger. I was taught to keep your finger away from the trigger until you've found your target, finger over the trigger whilst aiming, and finally finger on trigger when ready to fire. -Winn
It's called trigger discipline. It shows that the actors have been trained in the correct manner in using their weapons. It's rather unsafe to hold a gun on someone with your finger on the trigger as a shock or spasm can cause your fingers to tighten thus end up accidentally shooting the person. As Winn said it takes less than a second to slip your finger onto the trigger and squeeze it which is plenty of time. --cool-breeze 11:35, 24 July 2011 (CDT)