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=Marvel One-Shot: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer= | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Marvel One-Shot: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer'' (2011)]] | |||
'''''A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer''''' is the second ''[[Marvel One-Shot]]'' and was released on the Blu-Ray release of ''[[Captain America: The First Avenger]]''. [[Clark Gregg]] returns as SHIELD Agent Phil Coulson. | |||
{{Film Title|Marvel One-Shot: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer}} | |||
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==Glock 17== | |||
Agent Coulson ([[Clark Gregg]]) carries a [[Glock 17]] as his sidearm. | |||
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd Generation Glock 17 - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_G17_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Agent Coulson offers the two robbers his Glock.]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_G17_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_M500C_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Coulson's Glock by Robber 1 ([[Jeff Prewett]]).]] | |||
==Mossberg 500 Cruiser== | |||
Robber 1 ([[Jeff Prewett]]) uses a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] with an extended magazine tube and heat shield during the robbery. Coulson later takes it and uses it as a club. | |||
[[Image:Mossberg500cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser with extended magazine tube and heat shield - 12 Gauge]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_M500C_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robber 1 threatens the clerk (Jessica Manuel) with his Mossberg Cruiser.]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_M500C_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of Robber 1's shotgun after he fires. Note the Mossberg-style safety. Also note Coulson's Glock at his feet.]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_M500C_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Coulson lays the Mossberg Cruiser when he pays for his snacks.]] | |||
==Mossberg 500== | |||
Robber 2 ([[Zach Hudson]]) is equipped with a full-sized [[Mossberg 500]] with an extended magazine tube and wood furniture. | |||
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 Gauge]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_M500_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robber 2 threatens the clerk (Jessica Manuel) with his Mossberg.]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_M500_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of Robber 2's Mossberg right before he's stunned with a bag of flour.]] | |||
[[Image:MOS_FunnyThing_M500_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of Robber 2's Mossberg right before Coulson dispatches his partner.]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
==Red Skull's Pistol is not a Luger== | |||
It appears that the pistol is an entirely fabricated prop, not a converted luger. The image is watermarked so I don't want to post it on the main page. I'm looking for a better shot.--[[User:James3|James3]] ([[User talk:James3|talk]]) 13:49, 19 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:IMG_5546-horz.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
I changed the trench gun entry as it is used by a character called Dum Dum Dugan. He is played by Neil McDonough of band of brothers, on another note im so glad Cap is acking a 1911 as his sidearm--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 08:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC) | I changed the trench gun entry as it is used by a character called Dum Dum Dugan. He is played by Neil McDonough of band of brothers, on another note im so glad Cap is acking a 1911 as his sidearm--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 08:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
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*Hugo Weaving used a Luger P08, and after revealing he's redskull, uses a Luger that has been modified to look like an energy weapon. | *Hugo Weaving used a Luger P08, and after revealing he's redskull, uses a Luger that has been modified to look like an energy weapon. | ||
*The assassin Kruger used a Walther P38, which in typically movie fashion, clicks empty instead of locking back. | *The assassin Kruger used a Walther P38, which in typically movie fashion, clicks empty instead of locking back. | ||
*A Johnson M1941 is used by | *A Johnson M1941 is used by Sebastin Stan, who plays Cap's friend Buck, to snipe an enemy. He racks the bolt back after he shoots, despite it being a semi-automatic weapon. | ||
*MP40s are used by several of the Nazis before all those fictional Hydra soldier weapons take over. | *MP40s are used by several of the Nazis before all those fictional Hydra soldier weapons take over. | ||
*M1 Carbines are seen slung on the backs of US soldiers, and an M1A1 Carbine is seen being used by one during the raid of the Hydra base at the end. | *M1 Carbines are seen slung on the backs of US soldiers, and an M1A1 Carbine is seen being used by one during the raid of the Hydra base at the end. | ||
If I can remember any more I'll come back and add them. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | If I can remember any more I'll come back and add them. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | ||
Just got back from seeing it myself, I'm pretty sure I saw Jim Morita (Kenneth Choi) carrying an M3 Grease Gun at one point. The commandos themselves look like they were outfitted with a who's-who of U.S. WWII weapons. I'm also pretty sure I saw some modified FN 303s in there as well. - [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] | |||
== HOLY S***!!!! == | == HOLY S***!!!! == | ||
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Go see this movie folks, you will NOT be disappointed! --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 02:06, 23 July 2011 (CDT) | Go see this movie folks, you will NOT be disappointed! --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 02:06, 23 July 2011 (CDT) | ||
Like it, do you? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 12:59, 24 September 2011 (CDT) | |||
== Infantry with Paratrooper equipment == | |||
Remember the epic final battle scene, where one of the howling commandos with greaser commanded the assault team (Colonial Philips Infantry) to force entry into the compound. Then after that infantry full-scale attacked the HYDRA. In these scenes a lot of infantry/riflemen are having the Airborne Paratrooper bags on their backs. Does this happen in real WWII or is just that the director overseas it? - [[User:S9771773G|S9771773G]] | |||
::No, and this film was one of the most ridiculously inaccurate (regarding things like dress, hair, hats, equipment, uniforms). The director didn't care one whit about historical accuracy. Even with a 'fantasy film' like this, he could have done 'some' things right, like removing your hat/cover when indoors, but No..... Also it was too politically correct. Picking guys from all different races for a commando group is one thing. Having African American MPs guarding high ranking members of the War Department is ridiculous. America was a segregated country at the time and you can make a statement about racial equality without showing the fiction of fully integrated units before they existed..... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:01, 10 November 2011 (CST) | |||
== M1941 Johnson Comp Inquiry == | |||
Glancing over the images on the page, I stumbled across the customized M1941 Johnson automatic rifle. Not surprised at its usage, it's a much less commonly known weapon with a distinctive profile, a perfect fit for the film. What DID take me aback, however, was its furniture. The scope looked a tad modern (I know, how ''shocking''), but the...the modified PWS Diablo Compensator? And having to do ANY kind of drilling on that piece of history? Really? '''REALLY?!''' | |||
Am I the only one who thinks this is possibly the most severe anachronism in movie history? And not having seen the full film, are there any more modifications strapped to that poor, poor rifle? | |||
--[[User:FiveOne|FiveOne]] 23:20, 5 May 2012 (CDT) | |||
: Well, I guess if you get past the pulse weapons and video cameras, I guess that would be a severe anachronism. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:56, 6 May 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Walther PPK == | |||
Why did the Woman in the american army have a walther ppk when that is in fact a Nazi germany pistol. Weren't all German Products frowned upon at that time during the second world war? | |||
She was British, and there wern't a lot of options for small, lightweight pistols.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 19:34, 6 May 2012 (CDT) | |||
=Stuff from the special features= | |||
==Dum Dum's revolver== | |||
In a featurette about the Howling Commandos, Dum Dum Dugan is seen with what appears to be a Colt New Service. Did this shot make it into the final cut? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:58, 3 November 2013 (EST) | |||
[[Image: CaptainAmerica_CNS_S01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dum Dum Dugan with his revolver.]] | |||
Looks like it, the shape of the front sight can just barely be distinguished. It's not in the movie, but it should still be on the page like the M1903 is, so I'm going to add it (as the [[M1917 Revolver]], since its usage here is military-themed). I just can't tell if it's a BtS shot or not, what with HYDRA's advanced technology and all. Are those movie cameras of some kind? The guy in the corner sure looks a bit to relaxed to be soldier when an enemy combatant with a gun suddenly flies in through the window. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 09:20, 27 May 2014 (EDT) | |||
:This is a BtS shot. You can see the green screen. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:20, 27 May 2014 (EDT) | |||
==FV432== | |||
One of Hydra's fancy weapons appears to be an unmodified British FV432 APC. | |||
[[Image: CaptainAmerica_FV432_S01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[Image: CaptainAmerica_FV432_S02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
== Fake Hitler's pistol == | |||
First time user here, so forgive me if this is the wrong way to address this -- But the actor playing Hitler looks to me to be holding a Luger P08, not a Walther P38 as listed. You can especially see in the very last photo of under the heading for the Walther. | |||
Latest revision as of 01:48, 10 July 2023
Marvel One-Shot: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer is the second Marvel One-Shot and was released on the Blu-Ray release of Captain America: The First Avenger. Clark Gregg returns as SHIELD Agent Phil Coulson.
The following weapons were used in the film Marvel One-Shot: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer:
Glock 17
Agent Coulson (Clark Gregg) carries a Glock 17 as his sidearm.
Mossberg 500 Cruiser
Robber 1 (Jeff Prewett) uses a Mossberg 500 Cruiser with an extended magazine tube and heat shield during the robbery. Coulson later takes it and uses it as a club.
Mossberg 500
Robber 2 (Zach Hudson) is equipped with a full-sized Mossberg 500 with an extended magazine tube and wood furniture.
Discussion
Red Skull's Pistol is not a Luger
It appears that the pistol is an entirely fabricated prop, not a converted luger. The image is watermarked so I don't want to post it on the main page. I'm looking for a better shot.--James3 (talk) 13:49, 19 May 2016 (EDT)
I changed the trench gun entry as it is used by a character called Dum Dum Dugan. He is played by Neil McDonough of band of brothers, on another note im so glad Cap is acking a 1911 as his sidearm--Captain Snikt 08:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Captain America wouldn't be American if he didn't pack a .45 --Swordfish941 14:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I also think the rag tag group of allied troups with the 'custom' weapons are the howling commando's but thats probably for a geekier site--Captain Snikt 08:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- If that is Dum Dum Dugan then it is the "Howling Commandos". Whether or not Nick Fury makes an appearance is the other question. --Charon68 11:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Fury is listed on the cast as Jackson has signed for a 9 picture deal with marvel but i dont think we'll be getting sgt fury tho --Captain Snikt 12:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
It has been confirmed by the producer that the Howling commandos do feature, and confirmed that Gabe Jones (I believe played by Derek Luke if the rumours are correct) will make an appearance in the film. I would guess that the guy next to Cap with the Thompson is Dino Manelli, and strongly suspect that the guy in the beret with the Sten is Percival "Pinky" Pinkerton. EDIT: Don't think it is Pinky actually, as Union Jack is in the film played by JJ Field, so I reckon they have amalgamated The Invaders and The Howling Commandos. --commando552 12:42, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- And the Asian guy with the knit cap carrying the custom gun is Jim Morita. --commando552 12:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- the CHARACTER's name is Jim Morita, which would probably imply that he is a Nisei (Japanese American GI fighting in Europe). MoviePropMaster2008 20:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
If i remeber correctly he was the leader of a Nisei squadron till he joined Fury's howling commando's --Captain Snikt 01:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
The one next to Cap holding the Thompson is Bucky. humanzie3
Boy oh boy I can't wait to see Hugo Weaving as the Red Skull. Here's hoping we see him with a Luger or a C96. -- K98.118.59.151 14:20, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Has anyone seen the newly released trailer? I think I saw a Colt 1908 Pocket Pistol and an M1928 Thompson in the trailer. - Kenny99 23:22, 23 March 2011 (CDT)
Weapon Overview
I don't have enough time to edit the page, but while the guns are fresh in my mind I'll list what I saw that's not on the page already:
- Hugo Weaving used a Luger P08, and after revealing he's redskull, uses a Luger that has been modified to look like an energy weapon.
- The assassin Kruger used a Walther P38, which in typically movie fashion, clicks empty instead of locking back.
- A Johnson M1941 is used by Sebastin Stan, who plays Cap's friend Buck, to snipe an enemy. He racks the bolt back after he shoots, despite it being a semi-automatic weapon.
- MP40s are used by several of the Nazis before all those fictional Hydra soldier weapons take over.
- M1 Carbines are seen slung on the backs of US soldiers, and an M1A1 Carbine is seen being used by one during the raid of the Hydra base at the end.
If I can remember any more I'll come back and add them. - Gunmaster45
Just got back from seeing it myself, I'm pretty sure I saw Jim Morita (Kenneth Choi) carrying an M3 Grease Gun at one point. The commandos themselves look like they were outfitted with a who's-who of U.S. WWII weapons. I'm also pretty sure I saw some modified FN 303s in there as well. - IGemini
HOLY S***!!!!
This movie was absolutely AMAZING folks! Never in my life have I been so blown away by one of the best movie-going experiences... this film is truly a film of our time that will be remembered for years to come. And when it was finished, never have I heard the most explosive, pumped, ecstatic, massive, roaring applause at the end of a film. This movie was AMAZING. No doubt about it.
Go see this movie folks, you will NOT be disappointed! --ThatoneguyJosh 02:06, 23 July 2011 (CDT)
Like it, do you? --Taurus96 12:59, 24 September 2011 (CDT)
Infantry with Paratrooper equipment
Remember the epic final battle scene, where one of the howling commandos with greaser commanded the assault team (Colonial Philips Infantry) to force entry into the compound. Then after that infantry full-scale attacked the HYDRA. In these scenes a lot of infantry/riflemen are having the Airborne Paratrooper bags on their backs. Does this happen in real WWII or is just that the director overseas it? - S9771773G
- No, and this film was one of the most ridiculously inaccurate (regarding things like dress, hair, hats, equipment, uniforms). The director didn't care one whit about historical accuracy. Even with a 'fantasy film' like this, he could have done 'some' things right, like removing your hat/cover when indoors, but No..... Also it was too politically correct. Picking guys from all different races for a commando group is one thing. Having African American MPs guarding high ranking members of the War Department is ridiculous. America was a segregated country at the time and you can make a statement about racial equality without showing the fiction of fully integrated units before they existed..... MoviePropMaster2008 08:01, 10 November 2011 (CST)
M1941 Johnson Comp Inquiry
Glancing over the images on the page, I stumbled across the customized M1941 Johnson automatic rifle. Not surprised at its usage, it's a much less commonly known weapon with a distinctive profile, a perfect fit for the film. What DID take me aback, however, was its furniture. The scope looked a tad modern (I know, how shocking), but the...the modified PWS Diablo Compensator? And having to do ANY kind of drilling on that piece of history? Really? REALLY?!
Am I the only one who thinks this is possibly the most severe anachronism in movie history? And not having seen the full film, are there any more modifications strapped to that poor, poor rifle? --FiveOne 23:20, 5 May 2012 (CDT)
- Well, I guess if you get past the pulse weapons and video cameras, I guess that would be a severe anachronism. --Ben41 22:56, 6 May 2012 (CDT)
Walther PPK
Why did the Woman in the american army have a walther ppk when that is in fact a Nazi germany pistol. Weren't all German Products frowned upon at that time during the second world war?
She was British, and there wern't a lot of options for small, lightweight pistols.--Mandolin 19:34, 6 May 2012 (CDT)
Stuff from the special features
Dum Dum's revolver
In a featurette about the Howling Commandos, Dum Dum Dugan is seen with what appears to be a Colt New Service. Did this shot make it into the final cut? --Funkychinaman (talk) 22:58, 3 November 2013 (EST)
Looks like it, the shape of the front sight can just barely be distinguished. It's not in the movie, but it should still be on the page like the M1903 is, so I'm going to add it (as the M1917 Revolver, since its usage here is military-themed). I just can't tell if it's a BtS shot or not, what with HYDRA's advanced technology and all. Are those movie cameras of some kind? The guy in the corner sure looks a bit to relaxed to be soldier when an enemy combatant with a gun suddenly flies in through the window. Spartan198 (talk) 09:20, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
- This is a BtS shot. You can see the green screen. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:20, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
FV432
One of Hydra's fancy weapons appears to be an unmodified British FV432 APC.
Fake Hitler's pistol
First time user here, so forgive me if this is the wrong way to address this -- But the actor playing Hitler looks to me to be holding a Luger P08, not a Walther P38 as listed. You can especially see in the very last photo of under the heading for the Walther.