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=Additional Images=
[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]
[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]
[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]
[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Saiga-9 YAROVIT.jpg|450px|thumb|none|Saiga-9 YAROVIT competition gun - 9x19mm ]]
=Discussion=
Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2?
Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2?
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg
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Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.
Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.


== Images ==
==Images==


Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html
Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html


The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
==Vityaz==
Vityaz is a derivative of [[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]], it differs only in replacing of a helical-feed magazine with a more common stick magazine. I think that Vityaz must be merged into Bizon page which in turn be renamed into "Izhmash PP-19" with subheaders "PP-19 Bizon" and "PP-19-01 Vityaz". [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 22:03, 19 February 2014 (EST)
:Sounds good. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)
::Well at least it didn't ''quite'' take four years to do that :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)

Latest revision as of 19:24, 10 November 2023

Additional Images

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PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm
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PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm
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PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm
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Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm
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Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR - 9x19mm
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Saiga-9 YAROVIT competition gun - 9x19mm

Discussion

Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2? http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg

Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.

Images

Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html

The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. Evil Tim 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

Vityaz

Vityaz is a derivative of Izhmash PP-19 Bizon, it differs only in replacing of a helical-feed magazine with a more common stick magazine. I think that Vityaz must be merged into Bizon page which in turn be renamed into "Izhmash PP-19" with subheaders "PP-19 Bizon" and "PP-19-01 Vityaz". Greg-Z (talk) 22:03, 19 February 2014 (EST)

Sounds good. --Funkychinaman (talk) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)
Well at least it didn't quite take four years to do that :D Evil Tim (talk) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)