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My first major contribution, I've had this page in my files waiting to be added here. It covers everything I remember seeing in the series during a runthrough, except for episodes using stock footage, which I hope to add later if I see anything new. I went for the best screencaps I could get and spent a lot of time researching to make sure I got as much detail correct as possible with a minimum of spoilers, though I'm sure there's more to add/correct. - [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] 04:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC) | My first major contribution, I've had this page in my files waiting to be added here. It covers everything I remember seeing in the series during a runthrough, except for episodes using stock footage, which I hope to add later if I see anything new. I went for the best screencaps I could get and spent a lot of time researching to make sure I got as much detail correct as possible with a minimum of spoilers, though I'm sure there's more to add/correct. - [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] 04:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC) | ||
==Colt Commander== | |||
I know that one episode, which has Hawkeye aiding a wounded North Korean soldier, he is forced to help by the soldier's friend, who uses an unmistakable SKS rifle, which would be as accurate as a Mosin Nagant. | |||
I wish I had images of the episode, but unfortunately, I do not.- [[User:Maxman|Maxman]] 22:00, 27 July 2012 (EST) | |||
:You're right, there's an SKS. I've had a new set of images and entries in planning including that one, still got a couple details to check. Might have them up this weekend. - [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] 23:30, 27 July 2012 (CDT) | |||
The title escapes me right now but in the episode where Major Hulahan thinks she's pregnant an injured soldier is holding Major Winchester hostage with his sidearm. It's only for a brief moment but you can see the hammer is a skeletonized type. Does anyone know when these would've actually come out? [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]] | |||
:It's not skeletonized in the sense we think of in modern firearms, but that "notched" hammer is actually a feature of the earlier Star pistols--likely made in the 20s. It's used a couple other times in the first two seasons. - [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] 16:57, 28 July 2012 (CDT) | |||
==Colt Single Action Army== | |||
Are those really Colt Single Action Army revolvers? I'd say that it is more like that they are Ruger Blackhawks. --[[User:Wicket1138|Wicket1138]] ([[User talk:Wicket1138|talk]]) 01:25, 4 November 2012 (EDT) | |||
:If you can tell the difference without any clear shots of the crosspins on the frame (or lack thereof), please share. [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] ([[User talk:IGemini|talk]]) 12:24, 25 November 2012 (EST) | |||
== MP40? == | |||
I was just wondering, how historically accurate is it for a Korean soldier to be using an MP40? I've never seen any evidence of Koreans using one during the war.--Gunner5 | |||
:It's not. Pretty much anything the KPA had were Soviet surplus or licensed copies. Even as a Vietnam reference (where the MP40 has recorded use), it's a really distant one. Maybe the armorer had an off-day. [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] ([[User talk:IGemini|talk]]) 12:24, 25 November 2012 (EST) | |||
==Clutter== | |||
A lot of these screencaps REALLY need to be deleted or moved here, especially with the rifles. IMFDB's [[Rules, Standards, and Principles]] page explicity states a 10-image per-weapon limit on a page with multiple users. It doesn't need EVERY instance of a weapon showing up, or ten images of Klinger with the same one. Plenty of them are too blurry, just show a part of the stock or barrel, or simply way too dark. [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] ([[User talk:IGemini|talk]]) 12:24, 25 November 2012 (EST) | |||
:If this article would be split into single seasons, as its done with most other tv series, there would be a few images per season. -[[User:Wicket1138|Wicket1138]] ([[User talk:Wicket1138|talk]]) 15:23, 25 November 2012 (EST) | |||
::"Most" TV series aren't actually split by season, and MASH doesn't showcase enough firearms to be treated as such. It averages to less than two "new" models per year over an 11-year run, with 4-5 regulars. [[User:IGemini|IGemini]] ([[User talk:IGemini|talk]]) 18:51, 25 November 2012 (EST) | |||
FYI: Calling a Soldier, who is serving in the U.S. Army as a Medic, a "Corpsman" is incorrect. A Corpsman is a U.S. Navy Sailor who has been trained as a combat medic and assigned to a U.S. Marine Corps. combat unit. When a U.S. Army Soldier is wounded in combat he or his squad mate yells out "Medic"! Only a wounded Marine would yell out "Corpsman". The Army has Medics. The Marine Corps. has Corpsmen. The script writers in MASH made this mistake often during the series. [[User:Mkshane038|Mkshane039]] ([[User talk:Mkshane039|talk]]) 21:42, 11 May 2021 (EST) | |||
=Extra entries= | |||
==M116 Pack Howitzer== | |||
In a poker wager, Hawkeye was the winner of an army jeep from a supply sergeant in Episode 7.11 "Dear Comrade." However, he is delivered what appears to be an M116 pack howitzer. | |||
[[Image:MASHtv-howitzer1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hawkeye, Hunnicut and Potter stand around their new howitzer.]] | |||
[[Image:MASHtv-howitzer2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hawkeye and Hunnicut decommission the howitzer by removing the firing pin and filling the bore with concrete.]] | |||
:This should definitely be added to the page. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 04:22, 28 March 2014 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:Mash-509-m1b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Klinger has an M1 Garand in Ep. 5.09 "The Korean Surgeon".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-513-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Klinger has an M1 Garand in Ep. 5.13 "Hawk's Nightmare".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-514-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Klinger has an M1 Garand and another soldier an M-1 Carbine in Ep. 5.14 "The Most Unforgettable Characters".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-517-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The soldiers at the front carry M1 Garands in Ep. 5.17 "End Run".]] | |||
[[Image:MASHtv-Garand2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Klinger holds his Garand to block Winchester from entering camp in Ep. 6.08 "Change Day".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-710-m1b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Several soldiers of this unit carry M1 Garands in Ep. 7.10 "Point of View".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-724-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SGT Mike Scully (Joshua Bryant) has an M1 Garand in Ep. 7.24 "A Night at Rosie's".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-812-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Eddie ([[Richard Lineback]]) carries an M1 Garand in Ep. 8.12 "Dear Uncle Abdul".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1013-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PVT Nick Gillis ([[Cyril O'Reilly]]) tries to defend himself with his M1 Garand in Ep. 10.13 "A Holy Mess".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1107-m1a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The soldiers in the background carry M1 Garands in Ep. 11.07 "Settling Debts".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1107-m1b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The soldiers in the background carry M1 Garands in Ep. 11.07 "Settling Debts".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-509-m1a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The MP has a M1 Carbine in Ep. 5.09 "The Korean Surgeon".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-514-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Fearman with an M-1 Carbine is guarding Chinese prisoners in Ep. 5.14 "The Most Unforgettable Characters".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-601-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchesters Driver ([[James Carroll]]) has a M1 Carbine in Ep. 6.01 "Fade Out, Fade In".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-608-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Staff Sergeant Maxwell ([[Glenn Ash]]) has a M1 in Ep. 6.08 "Change Day".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-624-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Corporal 'Boots' Miller ([[Hamilton Camp]]) shooting at imaginary enemy gliders with his M1 Carbine in Ep. 6.24 "Major Topper".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-624-m1b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ep. 6.24 "Major Topper" is one of the few episodes were guns were actually fired.]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-702-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The guards at P’anmunjom having M1 Carbines in Ep. 7.02 "Peace on us".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-708-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Klinger carries an M1 Carbine in Ep. 7.08 "They Call the Wind Korea".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-710-m1a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ferguson ([[Hank Ross]]) and other soldiers in his unit carry M1 Carbines in Ep. 7.10 "Point of View".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-716-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The MP in the passenger seat carries an M1 Carbine in Ep. 7.16 "B. J. Papa San".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-723-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Klinger on guard duty again in Ep. 7.23 "Preventative Medicine".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-723-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Klinger on guard duty again in Ep. 7.23 "Preventative Medicine".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-803-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The South Korean MPs carry M1 Carbines in Ep. 8.03 "Guerilla My Dreams".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-804-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Radar and his driver encounter a group of soldiers with M1 Carbines in Ep. 8.04 "Good-Bye Radar: Part 1".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-804-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Radar and his Driver encounter a group of soldiers with M1 Carbines in Ep. 8.04 "Good-Bye Radar: Part 1".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-908-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The USMC MPs carry M1 Carbines in Ep. 9.03 "Tell it To the Marines".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1006-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The South Korean MPs carry M1 Carbines in Ep. 10.06 "Communication Breakdown".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1007-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The MPs at the checkpoint carry M1 Carbines in Ep. 10.07 "Snap Judgement".]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1115-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the medics ([[Mark Herrier]]) carries an M1 Carbine in Ep. 11.15 "As Time Goes By". The painted medic helmets are actually anachronistic for the Korean war because North Korean snipers used the crosses to aim. They were only used in the beginning of the Korean war with such paint shemes.]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1116-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The last soldier who enters the bus, carries an M1 Carbine in Ep. 11.16 "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen". Note that there is no magazine attached.]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1116-m1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The last soldier who enters the bus, carries an M1 Carbine in Ep. 11.16 "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen". Note that there is no magazine attached.]] | |||
[[Image:Mash-1116-m1a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The MP who is guarding Winchesters Chinese prisoners carries an M1 Carbine in Ep. 11.16 "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen".]] | |||
== Older M1 Carbine? == | |||
Is it me or is Klinger's M1 lack the adjustable rear sight (or any rear sight) and bayonet lug? --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 15:48, 3 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:MASHtv-M1car3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Klinger with the M1 in Ep. 4.16 "Dear Ma".]] | |||
= M1919A4 on turret = | |||
That's a [[Browning M2HB]]. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 17:15, 2 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
[[File:Mash-405-m1919a4b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note how the barrel shroud does not extend the full length of the barrel.]] | |||
[[File:Mash-405-m1919a4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the spade grips, a feature only offered on the AN/M2 flexible mount version of the 1919.]] | |||
Latest revision as of 01:45, 13 May 2021
Complete?
My first major contribution, I've had this page in my files waiting to be added here. It covers everything I remember seeing in the series during a runthrough, except for episodes using stock footage, which I hope to add later if I see anything new. I went for the best screencaps I could get and spent a lot of time researching to make sure I got as much detail correct as possible with a minimum of spoilers, though I'm sure there's more to add/correct. - IGemini 04:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Colt Commander
I know that one episode, which has Hawkeye aiding a wounded North Korean soldier, he is forced to help by the soldier's friend, who uses an unmistakable SKS rifle, which would be as accurate as a Mosin Nagant.
I wish I had images of the episode, but unfortunately, I do not.- Maxman 22:00, 27 July 2012 (EST)
- You're right, there's an SKS. I've had a new set of images and entries in planning including that one, still got a couple details to check. Might have them up this weekend. - IGemini 23:30, 27 July 2012 (CDT)
The title escapes me right now but in the episode where Major Hulahan thinks she's pregnant an injured soldier is holding Major Winchester hostage with his sidearm. It's only for a brief moment but you can see the hammer is a skeletonized type. Does anyone know when these would've actually come out? Ballistics_Expert2
- It's not skeletonized in the sense we think of in modern firearms, but that "notched" hammer is actually a feature of the earlier Star pistols--likely made in the 20s. It's used a couple other times in the first two seasons. - IGemini 16:57, 28 July 2012 (CDT)
Colt Single Action Army
Are those really Colt Single Action Army revolvers? I'd say that it is more like that they are Ruger Blackhawks. --Wicket1138 (talk) 01:25, 4 November 2012 (EDT)
- If you can tell the difference without any clear shots of the crosspins on the frame (or lack thereof), please share. IGemini (talk) 12:24, 25 November 2012 (EST)
MP40?
I was just wondering, how historically accurate is it for a Korean soldier to be using an MP40? I've never seen any evidence of Koreans using one during the war.--Gunner5
- It's not. Pretty much anything the KPA had were Soviet surplus or licensed copies. Even as a Vietnam reference (where the MP40 has recorded use), it's a really distant one. Maybe the armorer had an off-day. IGemini (talk) 12:24, 25 November 2012 (EST)
Clutter
A lot of these screencaps REALLY need to be deleted or moved here, especially with the rifles. IMFDB's Rules, Standards, and Principles page explicity states a 10-image per-weapon limit on a page with multiple users. It doesn't need EVERY instance of a weapon showing up, or ten images of Klinger with the same one. Plenty of them are too blurry, just show a part of the stock or barrel, or simply way too dark. IGemini (talk) 12:24, 25 November 2012 (EST)
- If this article would be split into single seasons, as its done with most other tv series, there would be a few images per season. -Wicket1138 (talk) 15:23, 25 November 2012 (EST)
FYI: Calling a Soldier, who is serving in the U.S. Army as a Medic, a "Corpsman" is incorrect. A Corpsman is a U.S. Navy Sailor who has been trained as a combat medic and assigned to a U.S. Marine Corps. combat unit. When a U.S. Army Soldier is wounded in combat he or his squad mate yells out "Medic"! Only a wounded Marine would yell out "Corpsman". The Army has Medics. The Marine Corps. has Corpsmen. The script writers in MASH made this mistake often during the series. Mkshane039 (talk) 21:42, 11 May 2021 (EST)
Extra entries
M116 Pack Howitzer
In a poker wager, Hawkeye was the winner of an army jeep from a supply sergeant in Episode 7.11 "Dear Comrade." However, he is delivered what appears to be an M116 pack howitzer.
Older M1 Carbine?
Is it me or is Klinger's M1 lack the adjustable rear sight (or any rear sight) and bayonet lug? --Maxman (talk) 15:48, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
M1919A4 on turret
That's a Browning M2HB. --Maxman (talk) 17:15, 2 April 2016 (EDT)
