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== | =Additional Images= | ||
==Screen-Used== | |||
[[Image:IMG 1687.JPG|thumb|none|350px|A Smith & Wesson 5906 used in ''[[Chuck]]'' - 9x19mm, the weapon pictured here was [[Yvonne Strahovski]]'s actual gun for the past two seasons of the show. It was supplied to the production by Independent Studio Services.]] | [[Image:IMG 1687.JPG|thumb|none|350px|A Smith & Wesson 5906 used in ''[[Chuck]]'' - 9x19mm, the weapon pictured here was [[Yvonne Strahovski]]'s actual gun for the past two seasons of the show. It was supplied to the production by Independent Studio Services.]] | ||
[[Image:IMFDB P00259 Sopranos Christopher Smith & Wesson 5946.jpg|350px|none|thumb|'''World IMFDB Exclusive:''' Screen used Smith & Wesson 5946 - 9x19mm. This blank firing weapon is verified as screen used by actor [[Michael Imperioli]] in '''[[The Sopranos]]'''. This specific gun was the one fired onscreen when Christopher and Paulie kill Mikey Palmice in I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano (1.13). More detailed images and purchasing information on this item can be found at [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/ The Golden Closet]; see [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=6ef04a13fbe759cbdcbdc6bc4c4b809f&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=P00259&Store_Code=TGC&search=Sopranos&offset=0&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high= here].]] | [[Image:IMFDB P00259 Sopranos Christopher Smith & Wesson 5946.jpg|350px|none|thumb|'''World IMFDB Exclusive:''' Screen used Smith & Wesson 5946 - 9x19mm. This blank firing weapon is verified as screen used by actor [[Michael Imperioli]] in '''[[The Sopranos]]'''. This specific gun was the one fired onscreen when Christopher and Paulie kill Mikey Palmice in I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano (1.13). More detailed images and purchasing information on this item can be found at [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/ The Golden Closet]; see [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=6ef04a13fbe759cbdcbdc6bc4c4b809f&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=P00259&Store_Code=TGC&search=Sopranos&offset=0&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high= here].]] | ||
[[Image: | [[Image:IMFDB P00270 Sopranos Silvio Smith & Wesson 5946.jpg|400px|none|thumb|Another screen-used Smith & Wesson 5946 from '''The Sopranos'''. This one was used by actor Steven Van Zandt (Silvio) when he, Paulie, and Tony kill Pussy in Funhouse (2.13). More detailed images and purchasing information on this item can be found at [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/ The Golden Closet]; see [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=6ef04a13fbe759cbdcbdc6bc4c4b809f&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=P00270&Store_Code=TGC&search=5946&offset=0&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high= here].]] | ||
==Other Images== | |||
[[File:S&W 5904 late.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Smith & Wesson 5904, late model with Novak sights and aftermarket Hogue rubber grips - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:S&W59441.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson 5944 - 9x19mm]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
==5903== | ==5903== | ||
Is the 5903 just the 5906 with a shorter slide? | Is the 5903 just the 5906 with a shorter slide? | ||
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The 59 and x59 (2nd Generation series) had 14 round magazines, and when the 5906 first came out, they also had a 14 round magazine standard. They introduced the 15 round magazines during the 5906s production run, which is why there are some 3rd gen mags with 14 round capacities and some with 15 round capacities. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 09:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC) | The 59 and x59 (2nd Generation series) had 14 round magazines, and when the 5906 first came out, they also had a 14 round magazine standard. They introduced the 15 round magazines during the 5906s production run, which is why there are some 3rd gen mags with 14 round capacities and some with 15 round capacities. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 09:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
Also keep in mind that factory S&W magazines for the 5900 series guns count to 15 in one side and 14 on the other. Many people see pictures of the standard 15 round factory magazines with the right side facing upward and see the numbers 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 and since the highest number is 14, assume that is the capacity. Flip it over and you see 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15.--[[User:Luckyluciano|Luckyluciano]] 00:32, 1 March 2011 (UTC) | Also keep in mind that factory S&W magazines for the 5900 series (mid 90s to present) guns count to 15 in one side and 14 on the other. Many people see pictures of the standard 15 round factory magazines with the right side facing upward and see the numbers 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 and since the highest number is 14, assume that is the capacity. Flip it over and you see 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15.--[[User:Luckyluciano|Luckyluciano]] 00:32, 1 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
==Screen used guns== | ==Screen used guns== | ||
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Just cleaned up the 5906 section. The movies were added sporadically with no order by date. Be sure to add to the list in descending order by date of film or tv series release. --[[User:Luckyluciano|Luckyluciano]] 00:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC) | Just cleaned up the 5906 section. The movies were added sporadically with no order by date. Be sure to add to the list in descending order by date of film or tv series release. --[[User:Luckyluciano|Luckyluciano]] 00:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Discontinuance == | |||
Any reason why the older steel pistols from S&W (5900, 4500, 6900, etc) were discontinued and production stopped? As far as I can tell, they're reliable, well-to-do pistols. Just curious. --[[User:Mormonpowerranger521|Mormonpowerranger521]] 12:01 24 June, 2013 CST | |||
:They jumped on the polymer framed bandwagon with the M&P line and decided to put all their eggs in that basket. However for a long time (possibly still now but if not up till 2010 or so) the 3rd gen S&W autos were still actually being produced, but only for special LE contracts and were not available to the public. If they bought them back I think they would be pretty popular, as currently there are not many companies that make all metal guns, and I think there is still a market for that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:31, 24 June 2013 (EDT) | |||
==Trigger-guard manufacture change== | |||
Anyone know off-hand, either closely or exactly, when this series of weapons went from the hooked/squared trigger guard to the rounded one? I figure it wasn't long after introduction, somewhere in the early 90s, perhaps? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:28, 8 November 2014 (EST) | |||
::1991-1992 seems to be when the company moved to the rounded trigger guard. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 19:23, 31 August 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::My guess would be that they started moving to it in 1990, as the 4506 which was introduced in 1989 started with the square one, but the 4504 which was introduced in 1990 seemingly only ever had the rounded one. I imagine it would have taken a couple of years to work through the old stock and change the tooling for all of the models though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:45, 1 September 2021 (EDT) | |||
== 5944 == | |||
Does anybody know what happened to the section reference the Smith & Wesson 5944? --[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] ([[User talk:L.J. Gibbs|talk]]) 12:47, 6 February 2015 (EST) | |||
It was removed since there is no documented use of the 5944 in any productions. Carbon blue steel slide and aluminum alloy lower frame. Great pistol and rare. Smith only produced the model from 1991-1992. Probably just a little over 1,000 units manufactured. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 16:25, 28 August 2021 (EDT) | |||
[[File:S&W5944B.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 5944 - .9mm Parabellum]] | |||
== NYPD use == | |||
The 5946 seems like an odd and somewhat obscure pistol in relation to the NYPD's other handguns. I've never fired one, so I can't say anything for or against it. But if anyone knows why it is used, I would appreciate the info.--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 17:52, 1 December 2016 (EST)H3nry8adger1982 | |||
: Odd and obscure? Not really. As for why it was issued, well, it's a high-cap 9mm DAO with no manual safety; In terms of operation it's essentially identical to the Glock. That and in S&W's case there was already an existing customer relationship with NYPD. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 18:22, 1 December 2016 (EST) | |||
Ok, thanks. I just don't see much of it out and about.--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 18:53, 1 December 2016 (EST)H3nry8adger1982 | |||
:I inherited my dad's old duty pistol (Idaho State Police) in 2016. It's a S&W 4586 - the DOA version of the [[Smith & Wesson 4566]]. Personally I like the DAO trigger. It's easy to reach with my short fingers and I find it very smooth and consistent. When ISP went to the 4586 in 1991 I didn't like the action, but I wasn't a very experienced shooter back then. I've gotten better and I appreciate the smoothness. It's my understanding that all the DAO actions in the 3rd generation pistols were the same. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 05:38, 1 February 2018 (EST) | |||
== Video Games == | |||
I wonder why no game developers ever use these. They're not bad looking by any stretch of the imagination, and they're solidly a "cop gun." --[[User:Godzillafan93|A Jaded Lizard]] ([[User talk:Godzillafan93|talk]]) 19:03, 6 December 2017 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 00:11, 19 September 2021
Additional Images
Screen-Used
Other Images
Discussion
5903
Is the 5903 just the 5906 with a shorter slide?
The 5903 is a 3rd generation pistol with a stainless steel slide, small parts and a 4 inch barrel (standard size), and an anodized alloy frame. Basically it's a 5906 with an alloy frame. --Yournamehere 09:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Capacity
I've heard conflicting information, do these weapons hold 14 or 15 rounds as standard capacity. -Anonymous
- As a friend of numerous RCMP officers who carry this as their sidearm, and a person who's both held and fired one, I can confirm that the 5906 atleast holds 15 rounds in the magazine. M14fanboy
I was confused because I've seen alot of magazines made for the 5900 series in both 14 and 15 round capacities.
The 59 and x59 (2nd Generation series) had 14 round magazines, and when the 5906 first came out, they also had a 14 round magazine standard. They introduced the 15 round magazines during the 5906s production run, which is why there are some 3rd gen mags with 14 round capacities and some with 15 round capacities. --Yournamehere 09:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Also keep in mind that factory S&W magazines for the 5900 series (mid 90s to present) guns count to 15 in one side and 14 on the other. Many people see pictures of the standard 15 round factory magazines with the right side facing upward and see the numbers 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 and since the highest number is 14, assume that is the capacity. Flip it over and you see 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15.--Luckyluciano 00:32, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Screen used guns
All the MPM pics on this page, are screen used guns, but I was in such a rush when I photographed them, I didn't have time to check as to what films they were in, but seriously, they are well used guns, Ellis Mercantile, Stembridge, Cinema Weaponry, etc. Every MPM pic (versus the jacked pics) for this page came from a movie arsenal. Arghhh. I bet some of these are screen used for their listings but I can't verify them. :( MoviePropMaster2008 17:11, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well, one of the 5906's is from Collateral, innit? I remember seeing that written somewhere.-protoAuthor 04:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Descending order reminder
Just cleaned up the 5906 section. The movies were added sporadically with no order by date. Be sure to add to the list in descending order by date of film or tv series release. --Luckyluciano 00:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Discontinuance
Any reason why the older steel pistols from S&W (5900, 4500, 6900, etc) were discontinued and production stopped? As far as I can tell, they're reliable, well-to-do pistols. Just curious. --Mormonpowerranger521 12:01 24 June, 2013 CST
- They jumped on the polymer framed bandwagon with the M&P line and decided to put all their eggs in that basket. However for a long time (possibly still now but if not up till 2010 or so) the 3rd gen S&W autos were still actually being produced, but only for special LE contracts and were not available to the public. If they bought them back I think they would be pretty popular, as currently there are not many companies that make all metal guns, and I think there is still a market for that. --commando552 (talk) 14:31, 24 June 2013 (EDT)
Trigger-guard manufacture change
Anyone know off-hand, either closely or exactly, when this series of weapons went from the hooked/squared trigger guard to the rounded one? I figure it wasn't long after introduction, somewhere in the early 90s, perhaps? StanTheMan (talk) 22:28, 8 November 2014 (EST)
- 1991-1992 seems to be when the company moved to the rounded trigger guard. --Jcordell (talk) 19:23, 31 August 2021 (EDT)
- My guess would be that they started moving to it in 1990, as the 4506 which was introduced in 1989 started with the square one, but the 4504 which was introduced in 1990 seemingly only ever had the rounded one. I imagine it would have taken a couple of years to work through the old stock and change the tooling for all of the models though. --commando552 (talk) 05:45, 1 September 2021 (EDT)
- 1991-1992 seems to be when the company moved to the rounded trigger guard. --Jcordell (talk) 19:23, 31 August 2021 (EDT)
5944
Does anybody know what happened to the section reference the Smith & Wesson 5944? --L.J. Gibbs (talk) 12:47, 6 February 2015 (EST)
It was removed since there is no documented use of the 5944 in any productions. Carbon blue steel slide and aluminum alloy lower frame. Great pistol and rare. Smith only produced the model from 1991-1992. Probably just a little over 1,000 units manufactured. --Jcordell (talk) 16:25, 28 August 2021 (EDT)
NYPD use
The 5946 seems like an odd and somewhat obscure pistol in relation to the NYPD's other handguns. I've never fired one, so I can't say anything for or against it. But if anyone knows why it is used, I would appreciate the info.--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 17:52, 1 December 2016 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
- Odd and obscure? Not really. As for why it was issued, well, it's a high-cap 9mm DAO with no manual safety; In terms of operation it's essentially identical to the Glock. That and in S&W's case there was already an existing customer relationship with NYPD. StanTheMan (talk) 18:22, 1 December 2016 (EST)
Ok, thanks. I just don't see much of it out and about.--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 18:53, 1 December 2016 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
- I inherited my dad's old duty pistol (Idaho State Police) in 2016. It's a S&W 4586 - the DOA version of the Smith & Wesson 4566. Personally I like the DAO trigger. It's easy to reach with my short fingers and I find it very smooth and consistent. When ISP went to the 4586 in 1991 I didn't like the action, but I wasn't a very experienced shooter back then. I've gotten better and I appreciate the smoothness. It's my understanding that all the DAO actions in the 3rd generation pistols were the same. --Jcordell (talk) 05:38, 1 February 2018 (EST)
Video Games
I wonder why no game developers ever use these. They're not bad looking by any stretch of the imagination, and they're solidly a "cop gun." --A Jaded Lizard (talk) 19:03, 6 December 2017 (EST)