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Not only did Clint's character take care of his stuff. but he might of had his 1911 refinished sometime in the past. Why not? It's believable.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Not only did Clint's character take care of his stuff. but he might of had his 1911 refinished sometime in the past. Why not? It's believable.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


== "We used to stack fucks like you five feet high in Korea and use you for sandbags." ==
== That He Kept? ==
Why do both the Garand and 1911 entries say "that he kept from the Korean War"?


My knowledge of the Korean war doesn't cover this, but I find the prospect of using corpses for military sandbags (for a bullet-, fragmentation-, and explosive-resistant barrier) rather implausible. Stopping fragments and submachine gun rounds seems alright (though not all of the time), but rifle and LMG rounds? Not really. Also, it has all the problems of what is effectively an open-air mass grave--the corpses will stink and rot in short order unless it's in the dead of winter, whereupon the cold temperatures will preserve the bodies (until warmer weather rolls around). Not good for hygiene or disease control once the corpses start decaying, and probably not for morale ("So Sarge, if I get 86'd, are you going to add me to the wall?"). Can anyone verify or refute this quote by Clint Eastwood's character? The only movie I know of that used a "wall of corpses" was ''300''. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 15:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Do we know this for some specific reason? Is it in the film and I missed it or something. Because, normally you cannot just keep your guns. The government wants them back. So, that seems odd.
:In defense of Clint, A) it WAS extremely cold for parts of the war, B) I don't know if you want to ask the Box 'O' Truth guys on this, but I'd think a frozen body would stop bullets and fragments better than a non-frozen one, and it wouldn't stink, and C) if it's that cold, you won't be able to dig and fill sandbags, and there'd be plenty of corpses available, and D) stopping just fragments and SMG fire is better than nothing, (helmets won't stop bullets either) and E) as for morale, I can't think of a better way to dehumanize the enemy. Just my two cents. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 16:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 
I don't think in the history of modern warfare where any army actually used people stacked like sandbags. This isn't 300 where you can make a mountain of corpses and throw them at the enemy. It's against military conduct for any military in the UN and those that adhere to the Geneva convention and against hygiene for rotting dead people around you. I think in the movie what Clint Eastwood said was more as a figure of speech to intimidate the Asians. You'd be shitting your pants if Clint Eastwood shouted at you that he used to pile people up like sandbags. It gives an aura of "You don't want to fuck with me" kinda of mentality. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:03, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 
The Geneva convention may say don't do certain things but when the fighting gets that bad, rules go out the window and it becomes all about survival.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:::I don't think you'll survive long when you are stacking bodies like sandbag. In a couple hours, they will rot and the smell will attribute to what's killing you and in a couple days, people will get sick [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
As said above, it was more of a mind fuck tool to throw them off balance.
 
Like Excalibur01 said, I think the most likely explanation was that Clint's character was trying to scare whoever he was talking to. --[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 19:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 
Since it seems everyone in here wants to be an internet Rambo, do some reading on the Korean conflict, got pretty desperate at times. Might I suggest this book, lots of insight and soldiers eye view.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Mortal-Combat-John-Toland/dp/0688125794
 
And bodys dont rot when your body parts are freezing off ;) [[User:Thursday|Thursday]] 06:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
It wasn't that cold in Korea [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:38, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
:I can't say how cold it was personally, but the Frozen Chosin exhibit at the Marine Corps Museum is actually refrigerated. They basically built a huge diorama in a giant walk-in fridge.  --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 14:51, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::During the siege of Leningrad (1941-1944) Soviet soldiers during the winter were sometimes forced to use the corpses of their comrades for the purpose. It will not seem so awful when you know that the civilian population of Leningrad in winter 1942 had eaten corpses.[[Special:Contributions/178.140.74.48|178.140.74.48]] 22:32, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

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Gran Torino 1972 Fastback

Some shots of the car from the film:

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Nice vehicle, no? - Gunmaster45

I still think the Cobra model is the best Torino.-Oliveira 00:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
They said something about it having a Cobra engine... - Gunmaster45
That is one nice car, I would love to have it.--Alienqueen11 00:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Beautiful, just beautiful. I wish American cars were this classy nowadays. -Gunman69 04:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
It's too bad that all the cars today are either hippie made POS or Damn riceburners made in Asia. That is why I'm about to buy me a retired 1977 Plymouth Fury police car. Been saving up for years just to buy one in good condition. - Kilgore 23:07, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- '77, so it'll have the rectangular quad headlamps, right? Nice choice, I love me some Mopar B-bodies. Though this is a stunning piece as well. And it's true, they don't make 'em like they used to. Damn my old man had it awesome in his youth, these kind of cars were everywhere, and he went through several Mopars himself. Bah, I'm so jealous. StanTheMan 13:46, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
In 1980 I saw a Plymouth Fury Station Wagon 1969. Can you imagine the shock that was in 11 year old boy in communist Moscow?! At that time we had to wait 5 years to buy a crappy Lada, which was considered a luxury car (there were other cars that were even worse Lada). Then I saw a Lincoln Continental and many other machines, but I still remember the image of Plymouth. I still adore the old American cars. (Sorry for my awful English) Flexo 10:41, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Pistols

I remember the guy in the hooded sweatshirt using either a Beretta or Taurus-type 9mm. I don't remember when it's seen clearly enough to ID, though. -MT2008
I looked back and never saw a clearer shot than the shot I have here. Is it somewhere else in the film? - Gunmaster45
There isn't a cleaner shot, but I watched this movie again tonight and just going by tiny hints, I'm pretty sure the guy in the hooded sweatshirt has a Beretta 92FS Inox. The guy next to him firing his pistol sideways looks like he has another Glock of some type, probably one of the G17s used by the actors playing the cops in the film. -MT2008

Condition of the 1911A1

Not only did Clint's character take care of his stuff. but he might of had his 1911 refinished sometime in the past. Why not? It's believable.--Jcordell 23:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

That He Kept?

Why do both the Garand and 1911 entries say "that he kept from the Korean War"?

Do we know this for some specific reason? Is it in the film and I missed it or something. Because, normally you cannot just keep your guns. The government wants them back. So, that seems odd.

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