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Not 100% but think the unknown sniper rifle might be a Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 01:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | Not 100% but think the unknown sniper rifle might be a Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 01:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
[[Image:FittedResize1024800-11-quick-caliber-conversion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Desert Tactical Arms SRS]] | [[Image:FittedResize1024800-11-quick-caliber-conversion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Desert Tactical Arms SRS]] | ||
I think it's the DTA SRS too, that was my very first thought when I saw the picture. I can't think of many other bullpup bolt-action rifles that aren't anti-materiel, let alone one that looks like the SRS. Also what's up with the ACR section saying it's possibly the first appearance of the rifle? It was in Terminator Salvation and one of the Transformer movies, I believe. - | |||
Wrong, in T4 and Transformers 2, those were a Magpul Masada. The early prototype rifle before it had some different change overs, like moving the charging handle and revised handguard before becoming the ACR. It is not exactly the same rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
Oh, that was the Masada. Didn't pay attention to looking for the charging handle/handguard when I watched the movie, just the general gun. - | |||
That's what caught my attention to this movie. When I was looking around the net and I came across the poster and saw the ACR on it. At first I dismissed it as a Masada, but then I can see the charging handle is more forward. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Also was this ever released in theaters? Cause I saw the trailer and didn't see half the guns on the page or know that in the opening scene we see a Desert Eagle. How did you know that? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | Also was this ever released in theaters? Cause I saw the trailer and didn't see half the guns on the page or know that in the opening scene we see a Desert Eagle. How did you know that? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
:It's been leaked online for over a week. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
Yeah, I watched this on YouTube, whole movie was uploaded in one file. I remembered some of the guns, but can't screencap them for obvious reasons. Go ahead and replace them once the Blu-Ray is released. | |||
== Assorted shotguns == | |||
I ID'ed the Shotguns. The ones in the three shots before the very last one is the custom Ithaca 37 from Miami Vice. The Shotguns in all the other shots are the new Remington Model 887 Nitro Mag Tactical [http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model-887/model-887-nitro-mag-tactical.aspx/ link], this is probably the first movie to feature them. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] | |||
Thanks Wolf, really helped me out. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Your welcome. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] | |||
== MP5 identification == | |||
The MP5s used in the movie were misidentified as MP5A5s (four-position trigger group, retractable stock), when they are MP5A3s (SEF trigger group, retractable stock). | |||
I corrected it. [[User:Ramell|Ramell]] 18:52, 1 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
I forgot to correct that from the previous guy who made the page. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Extra screencap I wanted to put for the sake of it. == | |||
The slow walk. | |||
[[Image:SWATFIREFIGHT.jpg|thumb|none|800px|]] | |||
== What actually is this? == | |||
[[Image:SWATffM42.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
There's no forward assist or brass deflector there, so it must be some other (earlier?) type of AR-15 carbine. I can't claim to know very much about such things, so any ideas? | |||
Also is that one of those old Armson red-dots? Don't think I've ever seen one in a movie before. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 14:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
I have no idea. I was hoping someone on the site knows. This gun appeared during the opening credits. A lot of carbine receivers eliminated the forward assist because they don't like it or they don't think there is a need for one. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
That's a '''"Slickslide" design Low Profile AR-15 Upper Reciver'''. Lacking a brass deflector and has no provision for adding a forward assist or ejection port door, creating a sleek, smooth profile devoid of all protrusions and potential snag points. | |||
One of the kind that comes to mind is [http://www.midwayusa.com/product/138383/dpms-upper-receiver-stripped-ar-15-low-profile-flat-top-matte DPMS Upper Receiver Stripped AR-15 Low Profile Flat-Top]. Not sure about that sight yet. Maybe some older sort carry-over used in more modern time. [[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]]) | |||
: Here's a image of a AR-15 with DPMS Upper Reciever attached http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j196/sprayed150/DSC_0039.jpg Courtesy of ar15.com forum poster "sfljohn" on this thread http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=409405&page=141 [[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]]) 05:48, 4 January 2015 (EST) | |||
== Gun Choice == | |||
-Its not S.W.A.T. (2003) but I thought this was a pretty good movie. That being said... | |||
-Although the ACR is POSSIBLE for an L.A.P.D. S.W.A.T. guy, it is sort of unlikely. It would be way more likely to see Cutler carrying some version of a pimped out AR platform-especially if he served in the Middle East. | |||
-However the big one in this movie that bothers me is the Sig 226 that ALL the SWAT guys seem to carry, both Detroit and LAPD. There is no way in hell an LAPD SWAT guy (Cutler) would be carrying anything other than some form of a 1911. Possible for the Detroit guys to have Sigs but I'm relatively sure that LAPD SWAT still carries some form of a Kimber 1911. | |||
-If you're going to go with Sigs (226s and a 229 here and there) that appear to have rails on them... Why no pistol lights? I'm not saying that they would be carrying lights on their off duty pieces. Even if it is a back up weapon, the pistol you carry on a SWAT call is still going to be hooked-up in case you need it. Case in point-Cutler's 226 in the first call in Detroit. Appears to have a rail but no light. [[User:Peejn8r|Peejn8r]] | |||
== 700PSS actually an M24 SWS (or mockup)? == | |||
Just watched this on demand for some reason (really bored), and I noticed the bolt action rifle that Watters uses looks more like an M24 more than a 700PSS. The stock looks like it matches the HS precision stock on the M24, including the LOP adjustment, and it's got the front sight that matches the M24, which the regular 700 is missing. Agree/disagree, anyone? [[User:The Kaptain|The Kaptain]] 14:48, 18 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 10:57, 4 January 2015
Sorry, but these will be deleted
Sorry, but PNG's are now not allowed and these will be deleted. Also, these weapons are somewhat familiar and you should put forth a little more effort in identifying and putting them on the page (you could have started by looking at the S.W.A.T. (2003) first). --Ben41 01:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
You can delete all the .PNG images now, they've been replaced on the Main Page with .JPG's
PNG's were deleted and thanks for your cooperation. --Ben41 01:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I dunno how, but the whole movie was uploaded to YouTube which I watched a few days ago, but has since been removed. I remember the opening scene there being two thugs, one had a Nickel Desert Eagle, didn't see exactly what model or calibre. Another thug held a sawn off shotgun, which looked like the Remington 870 sawn off. The owner of the House which the thugs broke into had the Nickel AK Varient from Belly. Robert Patrick also used a Stainless Smith & Wesson automatic. Should I still make note of these on the main page? Obviously can't upload any images.
Not 100% but think the unknown sniper rifle might be a Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout --commando552 01:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I think it's the DTA SRS too, that was my very first thought when I saw the picture. I can't think of many other bullpup bolt-action rifles that aren't anti-materiel, let alone one that looks like the SRS. Also what's up with the ACR section saying it's possibly the first appearance of the rifle? It was in Terminator Salvation and one of the Transformer movies, I believe. -
Wrong, in T4 and Transformers 2, those were a Magpul Masada. The early prototype rifle before it had some different change overs, like moving the charging handle and revised handguard before becoming the ACR. It is not exactly the same rifle. Excalibur01 07:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, that was the Masada. Didn't pay attention to looking for the charging handle/handguard when I watched the movie, just the general gun. -
That's what caught my attention to this movie. When I was looking around the net and I came across the poster and saw the ACR on it. At first I dismissed it as a Masada, but then I can see the charging handle is more forward. Excalibur01 17:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I got this
Blu Ray comes out next week. I want to cap it. Excalibur01 03:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Also was this ever released in theaters? Cause I saw the trailer and didn't see half the guns on the page or know that in the opening scene we see a Desert Eagle. How did you know that? Excalibur01 04:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's been leaked online for over a week. --commando552 10:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I watched this on YouTube, whole movie was uploaded in one file. I remembered some of the guns, but can't screencap them for obvious reasons. Go ahead and replace them once the Blu-Ray is released.
Assorted shotguns
I ID'ed the Shotguns. The ones in the three shots before the very last one is the custom Ithaca 37 from Miami Vice. The Shotguns in all the other shots are the new Remington Model 887 Nitro Mag Tactical link, this is probably the first movie to feature them. :) - Mr. Wolf
Thanks Wolf, really helped me out. Excalibur01 02:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Your welcome. :) - Mr. Wolf
MP5 identification
The MP5s used in the movie were misidentified as MP5A5s (four-position trigger group, retractable stock), when they are MP5A3s (SEF trigger group, retractable stock). I corrected it. Ramell 18:52, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
I forgot to correct that from the previous guy who made the page. Excalibur01 02:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Extra screencap I wanted to put for the sake of it.
The slow walk.
What actually is this?
There's no forward assist or brass deflector there, so it must be some other (earlier?) type of AR-15 carbine. I can't claim to know very much about such things, so any ideas?
Also is that one of those old Armson red-dots? Don't think I've ever seen one in a movie before. Jimmoy 14:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea. I was hoping someone on the site knows. This gun appeared during the opening credits. A lot of carbine receivers eliminated the forward assist because they don't like it or they don't think there is a need for one. Excalibur01 17:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
That's a "Slickslide" design Low Profile AR-15 Upper Reciver. Lacking a brass deflector and has no provision for adding a forward assist or ejection port door, creating a sleek, smooth profile devoid of all protrusions and potential snag points.
One of the kind that comes to mind is DPMS Upper Receiver Stripped AR-15 Low Profile Flat-Top. Not sure about that sight yet. Maybe some older sort carry-over used in more modern time. TrickShotFinn (talk)
- Here's a image of a AR-15 with DPMS Upper Reciever attached http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j196/sprayed150/DSC_0039.jpg Courtesy of ar15.com forum poster "sfljohn" on this thread http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=409405&page=141 TrickShotFinn (talk) 05:48, 4 January 2015 (EST)
Gun Choice
-Its not S.W.A.T. (2003) but I thought this was a pretty good movie. That being said...
-Although the ACR is POSSIBLE for an L.A.P.D. S.W.A.T. guy, it is sort of unlikely. It would be way more likely to see Cutler carrying some version of a pimped out AR platform-especially if he served in the Middle East.
-However the big one in this movie that bothers me is the Sig 226 that ALL the SWAT guys seem to carry, both Detroit and LAPD. There is no way in hell an LAPD SWAT guy (Cutler) would be carrying anything other than some form of a 1911. Possible for the Detroit guys to have Sigs but I'm relatively sure that LAPD SWAT still carries some form of a Kimber 1911.
-If you're going to go with Sigs (226s and a 229 here and there) that appear to have rails on them... Why no pistol lights? I'm not saying that they would be carrying lights on their off duty pieces. Even if it is a back up weapon, the pistol you carry on a SWAT call is still going to be hooked-up in case you need it. Case in point-Cutler's 226 in the first call in Detroit. Appears to have a rail but no light. Peejn8r
700PSS actually an M24 SWS (or mockup)?
Just watched this on demand for some reason (really bored), and I noticed the bolt action rifle that Watters uses looks more like an M24 more than a 700PSS. The stock looks like it matches the HS precision stock on the M24, including the LOP adjustment, and it's got the front sight that matches the M24, which the regular 700 is missing. Agree/disagree, anyone? The Kaptain 14:48, 18 August 2012 (CDT)